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- Thread: The National Signing Day Thread
- Thread: The National Signing Day Thread
Why don't you fckers go to one of the other 8 "Mullet sucks" threads to carry on this pissing contest? It would be nice to be able to read about some recruits without having to skim through 20 pages of non stop arguing about how Mullen is or isn't going to feature a forward pass in his offense.
Good win and better performance by the good guys! Some improvements, which are to be expected by game 4, if not somewhat slower than anticipated. But before we start handing out t-shirts, it was Vandy...we should expect to beat them. Even though they made us look after defeating K State, Bama pulled off their contender costume. The key at this point, to me, is to continue to get better each game, which I think we've seen to a degree in the last two. Even though LSU isn't up to speed this year, you've got to think it'll likely be a battle. But again, keep improving and we have a positive outcome. Alright, let's talk specifics...
*We were able to generate more pressure from our front four. Heck, Shannon even dialed a little up with the LBs a time or two. He'll be growing a full fro next thing you know! Seriously, much better and Polite and Zuniga, among others seem to be rising. Sherit solid. Bryan generated a rush on an outside stunt, but he gets stood up and chicken fights too much when rushing the interior. I guess he's there for a middle screen, but really he's still raw, particularly in this area. CeCe had some good rushes as well. Rush D was better. Slaton got a shout from the commentators (more on them later) and we were generally consistent with the rush D.
* Joseph looked to have a more consistent game. Some good rush plays and passes defended. Some coaching and understanding seem to be going on and taking hold. Reese had a few good plays against the rush. Johnson was back. We got burned on a screen again and I can't help but feel part of the problem is that the LB's get caught too close to the LOS and are easy to seal. They could also be better in their under coverage on passes. QB and route recognition need to improve.
*Special Teams...Some better. Punting was ok. Saw some attention to hang time on short field punts, but coverage was better on the boomers. We shouldn't have a hang time concern on these punts IMO. If we've got a guy that can kick it 60, then we need to have guys who can get off the hold-ups and force the return guy to the middle if we don't tackle him. The middle lane guys have to be downfield in a hurry and not get held up, either. We were better. Townsend ain't exactly kicking line drives! Hustle and technique. Eddy was great on KOs, but his long FG attempt was a duck. Doesn't count against him, but I was expecting him to clear with 10 yds to spare! A note on punting...the Rugby style, employed by Vandy, is supposed to be a no return scheme. The guy takes about 5 steps on the roll, buying time for the gunners, and usually tries to kick a lower trajectory ball with hopes that it will be more difficult for the returner to field (and fair catch if executed properly in terms of coverage) and they can then take advantage of the tumble. They were pretty proficient, although Powell muffed a returnable punt.
*Not as many missed tackles, though two were very noticeable. Both by Chauncey. He got trucked twice and it will continue to happen as long as he stands flat-footed and waits on the back (or receiver) to meet him with a head of steam. Poor technique. To his credit though, he did have two pass break-ups, the last was a shot on the receiver from the hash.
*Secondary made a few plays (Henderson, Duke, etc.), but the Vandy guy carved us up to an extent when we didn't generate pressure. We aren't lockdown by any means, still get lost in coverage some, and make crazy reads (Washington flies the opposite way from the QB roll in the red zone when they hit the TE dragging...what the heck was he thinking?). Lot of work to do but potential is there.
*Usually not crazy about the RB by committee, but it was well-managed today. Perine had a big day and Davis was solid. Thompson had some good plays. He's pretty good receiving. 5 rushing TDs? I'll take it.
*OL was better, as evidenced by our ability to run. A few pass pro issues, but maybe they are gelling. Counter was a good play for us and the G blocks looked pretty decent. As they continue to improve, our chances to be more efficient offensively and to win obviously expand.
*Hate to see LDR injured, but Frank's came in and gave us what we needed. Strike to Cleveland was big, even though we settled for a FG. Not what we wanted, but given the field position likely better than expected. He made some good throws, more of them than bad or ill-advised ones. The laser he threw to Swain in the back of the end zone, despite what McElroy said, was a confident throw by a gunslinger. Swain could have made the catch I thought. It was a little low, but where it needed to be in that situation. Frank's will get better with the reps and his performance in the win should help build his confidence.
*The commentators...First, McElroy was a college QB, but shouldn't be held as the final authority. Seemed like he got on Franks a bit much. Some deserved and questions about the cadence were deserved, but his point about the bad snap on the goal line was a big reach. Saying that he thought McCoy believed Franks was under center sounds like horse sh!t and piling on. Unless they changed the way a QB seats his hands under center, McCoy would have felt the top of Franks upper hand on his junk. No need to go all Merrill Hoge. Besides, his tie knot was too small. Also, the dialogue about Davis needing to take a knee when he broke into the open and scored is preposterous as far as I'm concerned. You don't coach a back to do that and if Mac does, as they speculated, then it only adds to the concerns...but I have some doubts as to that validity, despite the continuance of the dialogue while the camera was on Mac post play.
*Slight concern that we allowed Vandy to follow our score with a score of their own a couple of times. We need to be a little tougher in these situations moving forward. No need to give them a chance to feel like they can play with us. These are times we need a stop.
*Dont know for sure, but Mac seemed a lot more focused on the sidelines than maybe I've thought in the past. Not as goofy. Maybe a change for the better. He just looked more involved. Coaching points at times they were needed appeared to be delivered. Positive.
Next up...LSU. Some more momentum from the win and better play going forward. I'm glad to see us trending this way. Still lots of work to be done. Liking better what I'm seeing. Go Gators!
Good grief! Great win, but my old ticker might not make it through too many more like this! Lot to digest after this one. Streak stays alive. 31 straight and counting. I still have questions concerning coaching decisions, but so far, Mac has come out on top. As much as I've fussed, I have to state he's not the worst in the SEC. There's two I know of that are beneath him! Stoops...24-14 lead in the third and he starts playing not to lose.
Ironically, I mentioned the Choke at Doak and Spurrier's admission that going to a prevent too early prevented them from winning. While UK didn't exactly go into a prevent, they failed to continue bringing an extra rusher to put pressure on LDR. The guy's got a noodle and is not really mobile...the cook book says bring the heat. I could have sworn Shannon was calling both D's in the second half. I could go on, but let's get into some specifics:
*We have a feature back that has emerged. Malik Davis is now the guy. He hits the hole faster than his group mates. He runs with a lot of vision and effort. His 3rd down run where he spun out of a tackle and made the first was a testament to his desire. Very pleased to see him doing what he's doing. Safe to say he also was able to turn the page on his fumble. Good sign.
*I believe the OL had a much better game, especially with run blocking. We still missed a few blocks (Fred Johnson let a guy go on a play to Davis who made the stop on what would have been a big gain). But we made some big ones (Fred Johnson made a big one to clear the way on Toney's scoring run; from jachass to thoroughbred ). Effort across the front looked a lot better on the first view. Got to take this as a positive.
*Speaking of Toney, is the kid not a player? Great with the ball in his hands in space, can catch and his Wildcat play was outstanding. Now we know he can throw it to boot. All he needs is more touches. What happened to him at the end of the game? Was he hurt? Sure thought we'd see the ball in his hands some way. Glad we didn't need it.
*Give Brandon Powell some props. The kid always gives you a great effort. Tonight, he made several great plays. Take away his OB on his wheel route and he might be our POTG. He's also obviously a great kid. Glad to see him make some really good things happen. And did you see his catch on the back foot ballon from LDR?!
*I didn't think Frank's was bad enough to get yanked. My opinion, but what do I know. The commentators said the change was to give us a spark. I say debatable at best. But we win with LDR in there and I've got to give him credit on the scramble and dump to Thompson for the first down. Even threw across his body back to the middle of the field. Better play than his TD toss to an uncovered Swain. Still...
*DL got some better after getting pushed around early. Got some sacks, put on a little pressure. Polite played hard and made some plays, as did Zuniga, though his roughing call could have been fatal. Thinking experience should eventually cure mistakes like this.
*LBs are a weak spot. Part of it is youth, part lack of depth. Joseph gets lost in his assignments too often. One glaring example was the 30 screen pass play in their first series, Vosean was flat footed 2 yards from the LOS. A LB has got to know that on the initial pass drop by the QB, he's got to start dropping into his coverage. He then should read and react to the extra drop (screen giveaway) and reverse his drop to move back toward the LOS, looking for both the receivers and blockers. Something is not connecting. I won't, however, fault him for the targeting, as he was on the move trying to make a play. That's gonna happen from time to time. Reese is our best backer, but he, too, is still learning the college game. This position can't go another year unattended in recruiting and to a lesser extent development.
*Contrary to claims, I don't think we are DBU, at least not this year. We get lost in coverage too easily. Washington and Duke were spotlighted. UK QB was good, but we helped him out. We had a cover blow on thevTE's TD, but the safety stood like a statue and let the guy run to him and then over him for the score. We look like Ned and the Third Reader about every time we play zone. But we were some better in the last series...and we've got a lot of babies cutting their teeth. Get better with time, I'm sure. Hopefully before we play a better team or one with a better coach!
*Shannon continues to perplex with his reluctance to put pressure on the QB via the blitz. To be fair, we got some pressure from the front, but we could still use some extra pressure. Last passing situation of the game they need 10 yards for sure to definitely get into the kicker's effective range. Send some heat, make him throw it before he wants to, likely to a short route. We don't and thankfully they opt for a short sideline route outside the kicker's range. Saved by Stoops?
*Stoops...on top of playing not to lose and letting us hang around, our TD passes were to UNCOVERED WRs! WTH! Big Game Bob...move over. Your replacement is here. SMH.
*Our Special teams continue to be not so special outside of Townsend. Can't say Eddy this week after his opening KO goes out of bounds. Punt Cover continues to be a disaster. Townsend gives us a 56 yard punt from a hole and we fail to cover and the completely flip the field. Inexcusable. Who coaches them again?!
*Second and long, we will always run it. We are WR Screen U offensively. But the QBs were at least looking downfield midfield some more than usual, but seemingly no open receivers the majority of the time. Poor design or can we just not get open consistently?
*Now, what you've been waiting for. I truly believe Mac panicked and was rewarded for it. Again, I don't think Frank's deserved to be yanked. Spark or not, believe what you like, but IMO Stoops delivered. We had guys who kept plowing and that can't be overlooked, but Stoops gave us the opportunity that we took advantage of. That can't be overlooked either. Still, Mac is 2-0 in the conference. Commentators said it best...we are an imperfect team with a perfect record in SEC play. Luck has been with us. Mac, keep sh!ttin' horseshoes, brother. If you don't, I'm afraid we'll hit the ditch eventually if we keep making the same mistakes, especially defensively and on Special Teams. Not wishing for it by any means, but my eyes and what I've seen in many years of football makes me believe what I say in that regard.
Next week, Vandy at home. They got trounced by Bama, but who really thought they were going to slay the giant? We should handle them at home. 3-0 SEC would be a good place to be. It's out there for the taking. Let's have a down to business performance. Less mistakes, especially on D (forgot to mention that we missed a lot of tackles once again). Continued improvement on O, particularly with the OL and passing game. Don't think Vandy's guy gives us two free ones. I'll wait all week wondering who the QB will be ...or will I?
Better start than I thought to this point. Onward and upward. Go Gators!
I was there I and saw the whole incident go down.
It all started innocently enough in the meeting room with Lewis trying to get the receivers fired up for a good practice. He wrote a few things on the board about beating the CBs, one of which included the phrase "their overrated."
Teez saw this and immediately got in Lewis' face about the improper use of the word "their." Lewis insisted that the word was spelled correctly but Teez insisted that although he did in fact spell it properly he was using a synonym of the word "they're." Lewis partially conceded the point but noted that it wasn't a synonym but in fact a homonym, and that furthermore it isn't really a word per se but in fact a contraction of two words. Well Teez wouldn't back down, insisting that it was in fact a synonym, not a homonym.
Well as you can imagine, things got pretty heated after that and it wasn't long until helmets were swinging and one guy even pulled a knife. Thank sweet baby Jesus that a shirtless Spurrier walked into the room just then with a set of spinning nun chucks and scared the bejeebus out of everybody in the room. Poor Teez didn't see him though until it was too late...when he turned to see what everyone was staring at he inadvertently walking right into the path of the swinging weapon and got his melon split wide open.
Thankfully, everyone was quickly shuffled into the nearest safe space by the coaching staff and grief counselors from the English department were summoned post haste. In addition to the aforementioned suspensions, both Lewis and Tabor have been ordered to diagram 10 compound sentences on the blackboard and to memorize the X 13 multiplication tables. Both should be back in the lineup prior to us hosting the mighty Presbyterian Blue Hose for Homecoming Week.
Just want to take a minute to say Happy Thanksgiving to all our members and guests. This place has never stopped growing and the participation has exceeded all of my wildest expectations. I'm very thankful to those who come here daily to post, and even those who hang back in the shadows and lurk. I hope all of you have good quality time with your families over the next few days.
And, I just want to remind you that the most passionate fans of all hang out on message boards. There are going to be disagreements and bickering (especially in a unsettling time like now), but at the end of the day we're all on the same side. Don't take what anyone says to you too seriously.....just zap 'em back and move on.
Heres what i've been able to dig up and also some stuff i've been sent by DM on the rift between Mac/Boosters/Admin.
1) The QB club is pissed but that goes without saying.
2)The high-level boosters- Bull Gators, Varsity Club,06' Club basketball people- All love Karen McElwain...but Jim not so much! Even though he goes out of his way to do things like wait by planes to thank them for coming to road games etc...
3) McElwain doesn't feel underappreciated by the administration, but does feel unappreciated by the UAA/Stricklin. Strickland has been around Mac's office less and less over the last month. Also...Mac feels he deserves credit for dragging Foley and the administration forward on facilities andalso believes genuinely facilities are why his first two recruiting classes were sh*t! He points to 18 and 19 class as proof.
4) Mac thinks the media has never liked him and is annoyed with them (except for one or two he trusts) Also...the high-level boosters think he should quit dancing around questions and be more upfront.
5)Muschamp had a great second year as well and then everything went to sh*t and Scott Stricklin is aware of that.
6) Strickland thinks that this is a year where Florida MUST beat FSU. A quote from Stricklin to a booster was lose to FSU this year and "all bets are off"
7) Two big Bull Gators with names on buildings blame Mac for Callaway. They think if he had dismissed Callaway after the weed/rape incidents the suspensions wouldn't of happened. They think Smith never gets everyone on board w/o Callaway.
They get what the suspensions have done to the football team and use punt coverage as example of how playing down 18 scholarships has hurt the team. They also say Special teams lost the A&M game!
8) Also (one of the dudes with his name on buildings) says it's "huge" that Mike White's brother is the AD at UCF. Says that should help us if we decide to go after Frost.
9) Foley advised Strickland to keep a list of coaches in his desk and he has done it.
Allegedly the following four names are on it: Mullen, Frost, Dino Babers and Norvell. Campbell from Iowa State is also on it but Stricklin hates the buyout.
10) Also Was told that if and when Mac is fired t Stricklin would ask the new coach to retain Shannon as Associate Head Coach. Randy likes Gainesville and President Fuchs loves Shannon because he graduates kids and is an excellent ambassador for the program.
11) Also Was told the buyout is a pain in the a$$ but you find the money and there's leverage to renegotiate.
12) We Don't need to win this weekend because staying competitive would stall things and make it harder to get rid of Mac.
13) If we get to 3-5...he could be fired before the FSU game. However that would be hard to do unless his death threat accusations are proven false.
14) they have hired some people to look into "death threats" and want to know FOR SURE whether or not he made it up.
Hopefully this helps everyone understand what the deal is and I'll keep trying to add more as the season plays out.
- Thread: 2016 Class/Remaining Targets
I've been working on this today,Enjoy!
QBs- (2) Feleipe Franks - Early Enrollee
Kyle Trask - Early Enrollee
We needed a future QB and we got one in Feleipe Franks who's a Top 50 composite QB.
Kyle Trask is a big kid with a good arm. He's a project but he's very low risk, high reward.
We are done at QB.
RBs - (2) Mark Thompson - Early Enrollee
Lamical Perine - Solid, no more visits
We needed two more RBs and we grabbed our top guys early and moved on to the rest of the class.
We are done at RB.
WRs - (4) Joshua Hammond - Early Enrollee
Freddie Swain - Early Enrollee
Dre Massey - Early Enrollee
Rick Wells - Solid but still visiting other schools
Remaining Board: Eli Stove ( Official Visit to UF this weekend)
Tyrie Cleveland (Official Visit to UF on 1/29)
Tre Nixon (possible Official Visit to UF)
Nate Craig-Myers (longshot)
Sam Bruce (down the board)
Most likely we get One more from the above list but two is a strong possibility. With three of our top targets already going through Spring workouts, we have already met the needs at WR. Adding Stove and Cleveland would make this one of the best WR classes ever for Florida.
Tight End (1) - None currently committed
Remaining Board: Nick Eubanks (Official Visit to UF this weekend)
We appear to be all in for Nick Eubanks. Hopefully this one happens this weekend. I've noticed we don't seem to be turning up the heat recruiting others so I'm taking that as a positive.
Offensive Lineman - (3) Stone Forsythe - Early Enrollee
Brett Heggie - Solid, no more visits
Jawaan Taylor - Solid, no more visits
Remaining Board: Landon Dickerson (Officially visited on Jan 15)
John Simpson (Officially visited on Jan 15)
Malcolm Pridgeon (Officially Visited on Dec 11)
Greg Eiland (longshot)
Some concern for me that Eiland is getting a visit after hosting Simpson and Dickerson. I think the we made big moves for Simpson and Dickerson but we NEED at least one more OL. I think Mac is definitely covering our bases here,so we'll see what happens.
Defensive End - (3) Jordan Smith (Early Enrollee)
Antonneous Clayton (solid, no planned visits except UF)
Jachai Polite (Solid, possible visit to USC)
Remaining Board: Brian Burns
Brian Burns appears to be the only realistic option left on the board. This group is all about adding Burns and holding onto Clayton and Polite. If we can do that, this Defensive End class will be Stout.
Defensive Tackle - (1) Shavar Manuel (solid, Officially Visits Florida Jan 22)
Remaining Board: None.
We got our top target here. Dexter Lawrence was the other big fish but he went to Clemson. Shavar Manuel is an excellent prospect and I look forward to him getting back to his five star form under Rumph and the Gator conditioning staff.
We're done at DT
Linebackers - (3) David Reese (Early Enrollee)
Jeremiah Moon (solid, Officially visits Florida Jan 29)
Vosean Joseph (shaky, possibly flip to Alabama - Officially Visits Florida Jan 22)
Remaining Board: Mack Wilson (Officially Visits Florida Jan 29)
Jaleel Laguins (Officially Visited Florida Jan 15)
Josh Uche (Officially Visits Florida Jan 29)
Dontavious Jackson (Officially Visited Florida Jan 15)
Elysee Mbem Bossee (Officially Visits Florida Jan 22)
Dee Walker (possible visit?)
We must bring in at least 3 linebackers. The class is currently a prospective class with lower ranked players with big potential. However, the class could easily jump to elite with Mack Wilson and Uche but we have a lot of work left to do to make that happen.
Defensive Backs - (6) Chauncey Gardner (Early Enrollee)
McArthur Burnett (Early Enrollee)
Quincy Lenton (solid, officially visits Florida Jan 29?)
Jaewon Taylor (solid, Officially visits Florida Jan 29)
Aaron Robinson (shaky, grades, no official)
Christopher McWilliams (solid, officially visits Florida Jan 29)
Antonio Nelson (solid, Officially visits Florida Jan 29)
Remaining Board: Kristian Fulton (Officially Visits Jan 29)
Tyler Byrd (longshot to rejoin class)
I think we have the numbers but the elite talent level we're use to at DB isn't there yet. Adding Fulton would be huge for this DB class.
Kickers - (1) Eddie Pineiro (Early Enrollee)
Remaining Board: Mitchell Wasson (PK)
We blasted one out the park in this department! Now we're after Wasson he's being recruited as a walk on which would only make this better and hopefully put our FG kicking issues behind us.
Overall, I think this is a class that is deserving of its Top 5-8 ranking (depending on what site you use)
The 12 early enrollees are huge and should not be forgotten about.
One thing this coaching staff has showed is they don't care about rankings and go after the guys they think are best for them. A lot of those underranked players that our coaches targeted early have been heavily coveted late in the recruiting process. That tells me they were RIGHT on their evaluations.
That being said, it's going to get interesting over the next 2 weeks and hopefully we finish strong. Go
- Thread: Chip Kelly to UCLA: $4 Mil/Year
No way in hell he accepts the UCLA job unless we royally f'd up that meeting sun night. From the people i've spoken with and everything i've gathered from the 2 guys i know who are connected Chip Kelly will be our HC by next Mon. All these bullsh*t articles that will be pumped out over the next few days regarding UCLA are nothing but clickbait so scroll on. We have our guy and we'll be dragging folks ass again real soon
Btw...i want to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels to all!
- Thread: The National Signing Day Thread
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