lost last night. Looking at FB comments this morning shows how much in a bubble some of these people were living in. I made the first political post on FB that I've made this season congratulating Trump and hoping he unites the country and brings about change. That resulted in multiple people defriending me.
Someone posted they hope my family is the first lose to their insurance after he destroys Obamacare. One person even commented that she hopes Trump doesn't grab my daughter by the p***y.
Hopefully some of these people wake up and take a look in the mirror and realize they are what they despise. And if they can't maybe someone around them can slap them so they realize what they've become.
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I've been thinking and reading quite a bit about our football program and the current state of affairs, as have many others, trying to make sense of it and hoping to see where we are heading and if it will be better or worse. No shocker here, but it all starts with Mac and the questions have to be how could a guy with a reputation as being knowledgeable and competent where offensive football is concerned be so...bad, and how can a guy that's got what should be his dream HC job seem so oblivious to the need for the players to give great effort for an entire game and the coaches to be able to adjust in-game? Here's what I'm thinking:
- Part of me thinks that Mac has bought in to the new way of leading at some point in his HC career, which is actually facilitating or guiding with a lot of the choices and decisions being made in committee fashion. This probably isn't a bad approach when it comes to things like choosing what the menu for the pre-game meal is going to be, what uniform combinations are to be worn, and what kind of snacks that are available in the Football compound. How hard they work, how much effort they are required to give, and the room for mistakes and expected corrections have to be non-negotiable. Winning football, especially in the SEC, isn't going to work any other way. I may be dead wrong about Mac's approach in these areas, but his paint on the canvas shows me otherwise. The only choice where work, effort, and mistakes are concerned has to be get it done or we'll fire you and find somebody who can do so. You can stay on the team and become better and more dependable and maybe earn some playing time back, but it isn't free. I just have a hard time seeing Mac doing this now or becoming this way in the near future. Hurt feelings heal stronger, but I don't think Mac's got it in him to be the guy who hurts them when needed. That bit with Kelvin Taylor last season seems more dog and pony now than a coach making a point.
- I think also that the better football players probably see that Mac is more milquetoast than piss and vinegar and know that not only will they not have a chance to be on top of the SEC, much less CFB, and likely will not be trained or prepared as well for a possible professional career. I think the program, or what's left of it, still appeals to a lot of ok players, some who can eventually be good, but not the ones with the combination of talent and crap in their veins that want to and can be the best...and I think Mac is ok with that. The lessers are easier to coach and probably know all the words to some of the old beatnik tunes.
- Not being able (or willing) to adjust in-game is either just outright dumb or arrogant. It also may involve yanking some players that aren't getting it done, and that might hurt some feelings. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results only gets you more of the same, so I'm leaning toward dumb, or at least delusional. I cannot believe what I saw second half of the Tennessee game or from start to finish in Arkansas. Unacceptable is not a strong enough term and if there is any success from this point on this season, I'll probably be inclined to believe that it is more fluke than a change in ways of operating.
This is a great read from Marty Cohen....and I'm really surprised. Most of these beat writers are too worried about ruffling feathers w/ the UAA and he doesn't hold back. All the "pumpers" here should take a read. This isn't a message board poster. I remember in the 90's, before the internet changed everything, getting "Gator Bait" in the mail every week with "insider" news! This guy has been covering UF football a long time. Read the part about the noon kickoff and how it was supposed to be our recruiting showcase for this season (as LSU was our only "big" home game this year). The hits just keep on comin'!!
Cohen: Make-or-Break Time
Full disclosure – decided to wait until the end of the Tennessee-Georgia game to write this piece, seeing how critical that outcome was to the SEC East race, even at this early juncture. As a result, this is the third revision – was that an ending or what? With the North Carolina kicker nailing a 54-yard field goal to knock off Florida State just moments earlier . . . well there’s a reason this is the greatest sport around.
Anyway, thanks to one stupid unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on a Georgia player for taking his helmet off on the field after their incredible “game-winning” touchdown with 10 seconds left, which allowed Tennessee the opportunity to even toss one in the endzone, Florida’s fortunes in the East went from temporarily looking great to again needing help the next two Saturdays. The thought here is that Tennessee is going to get knocked off by Texas A&M on the road and Alabama at home, but the way the Vols have reversed recent fortune and are inventing ways to win, no prediction is iron-clad anymore.
Well, except that Florida beats Vanderbilt. It’s now 25 of the last 26, and 13 straight in Nashville. Yes the Commodores often play the Gators tough, but with the exception of stealing one during the seven-game losing skid in 2013, during which Gainesville High probably would have knocked off the reeling Gators, Vandy finds a way to put up a struggle but ultimately fall.
As for the Gators, the only conclusion to draw from Saturday’s somnambulism impression was that it’s a good thing the opponent was Vanderbilt, because there simply weren’t many other teams they would have come out on the winning side against with the performance we witnessed in Nashville. It was many years ago, when I was a teenager, that a bad, aching tooth required root canal – that experience was more enjoyable than watching the Gators’ 13-6 triumph over the Commodores.
Once again it was another eyesore on offense, the kind Gator fans have been treated to way, way, way too many times the past few seasons. There was the notion that this stuff was all Treon Harris’ fault, that we would not see offense this offensive again now that Treon was no longer with the program. Well, perhaps it wasn’t all on Treon, because this 236-yard, 15-first down, 13-point outing was simply another page from the recent chapters of ineptitude penned by both Will Muschamp and Jim McElwain. In fact, this was way too reminiscent of the type of play that got Muschamp fired, the ugly blueprint which produces little excitement, little reason for optimism, and possibly, some empty seats this Saturday afternoon/morning.
Ugh, the noon kickoff against LSU is a bad deal in so many respects, not only for the fans who lose a chance to truly tailgate before the most (only) significant home game on the schedule, but for the program as a whole. The early start delivers a major recruiting hit, because the Florida coaches had pointed to this game, generally a guarantee to be kicked off at 3:30 or under the lights, as the key contest for recruiting purposes. Many prime targets were expected to attend what was hoped to be a raucous atmosphere, instead it will be a somewhat tepid affair that many recruits who live a few hours away will likely bypass. Having to play a prep game on Friday night, the idea of making it to Gainesville for a noon kickoff, especially for south Florida recruits who will surely opt to go to Florida State-Miami, is a crippling blow.
So Florida lurches forward with a needed road victory as it returns home for a pair against LSU and Missouri, with just one more league road contest left at Arkansas in early November. The win was essential, but the manner it was achieved leaves as many questions as answers.
On top of the complete meltdown in the second half against Tennessee, the offense has now put together six horrific quarters of football. The late touchdown against the Vols was relatively meaningless as the outcome had been decided, and both the players and coaches chose to praise the Commodores’ defense, the same crew that allowed 24 to Middle Tennessee, 31 to Georgia Tech and 30 to Western Kentucky the prior three contests. Please.
This is on Florida. The Gators never got anything going as the offensive line, abused in the second half against Tennessee despite McElwain’s lukewarm backing of its play, was pushed around up front by Vandy. Repeat: pushed around up front by Vandy. That can’t happen, yet it did and doesn’t bode well with a much, much more athletic defensive front from LSU coming to town.
There aren’t really many personnel changes that can be made – can’t go to the waiver wire, make a trade or call somebody up from the minors. What does need to take place personnel-wise, provided he is ready to go, is a return to the huddle for quarterback Luke Del Rio. It’s simple to see this offense operates smoother with Del Rio in charge. Backup Austin Appleby had a terrific first half last week against Tennessee, but since then has really struggled. He wasn’t sharp Saturday despite completing 68 percent of his attempts (19 of 28), throwing for just 144 yards as the Gators just dinked, dunked and dinky-dunked some more. Tight end DeAndre Goolsby caught eight passes . . . for 37 yards. That’s ridiculous. He was supposed to be the tight end who could makes plays downfield, stretch the defense down the middle and cause mismatches, evidenced by his 16.3 yards per catch average last season, an impressive number for a tight end. This season, that number is cut in half, 8.0 yards per reception on 22 grabs.
Not only does Del Rio need to take over, but it’s time to shelve this four running back deal and pare it down to two – Jordan Scarlett and Lamical Perine. Scarlett has been the most effective runner all season and needs the opportunity to carry it 20 times, not two or three in a row and then on the sidelines for a few series. Offenses operate best with a number one tailback and Scarlett should be the guy, with Perine first up in the bullpen. There remains a role for Jordan Cronkrite, especially as a receiver out of the backfield (what happened to the idea of screen passes against Vandy?), with Mark Thompson the odd man out – he simply doesn’t run like a 240-pounder, just being honest from what we’ve seen. This is hardly a cure for all that ails the Florida offense, but it’s time to identify the playmakers and give them the opportunities to do their thing.
In the third phase of the equation, a tip of the cap to the special teams, which had a complete reversal from the subpar showing at Tennessee. The Gators were in command of the field position all game, with Vanderbilt starting all 11 possessions from its own 25-yard line or worse, with four beginning inside the 10-yard line. That’s a formula for success against any offense, especially one as anemic as Vanderbilt’s.
So Florida still needs some help in the SEC East as it enters what is basically the make-or-break match of 2016. The Gators cannot afford to lose a second conference game with four remaining after LSU, and must show they can beat a quality team. It’s that simple, the Gators have lost five in a row to ranked teams since the high-water mark, the shellacking of Ole Miss a year ago (last Oct. 3). Since then, the Gators are a mediocre 8-5 with two wins over Vandy along with one over Kentucky, South Carolina, Florida Atlantic, UMass, North Texas and a lousy Georgia squad. LSU may or may not be ranked this week, but the Tigers still represent SEC hierarchy, even with an interim head coach. It’s time Florida beats one of the big boys, bottom line.
And in a shortsighted sense, it’s a bit of a make-or-break affair for McElwain. There is no hot seat when you haven’t coached 20 games yet, but the grumbling about the offense, the grumbling about the sloppy play, is warranted. And the grumbling about getting hammered the last four times the Gators faced ranked teams – losses to Florida State, Alabama and Michigan last season and Tennessee a week ago (yes it was a 10-point setback, but it was also a second half hammer job) – is out there.
The only way to change the course of the narrative is to remain relevant, to remain competitive, to remain in the SEC East race, in short, to beat a quality team. Like LSU. On Saturday.
It’s been more than 365 days since the Gators laid one on a top-echelon opponent and a second conference loss would put a different spin on the second half of the season. This could possibly be the last chance in the regular season, given the devastating second losses suffered by Georgia and Florida State, to produce a significant win.
It’s simple – defend The Swamp on Saturday, or jockey for a second-tier bowl the rest of the way.
- Thread: He was a Hero
Buried pops today. He was a hero. He fought and was was injured in WW2 and Vietnam. We did not get along, but we buried him with his fellow warriors in the veterans cemetery in Lake Worth. Have not been in Florida for a while. Dont miss this oppressive weather. A move, a divorce, a new job and a death in less than a year. Ready for a new start.
Hello ladies and gents. Longtime lurker (8+years), but first time poster. Proud Supporting Member however, because I appreciate everything that you all put in to the site. I learn plenty of things here, some of which I may not really want to know...!
Anyway, I finally have a reason to break down and post something. (And to avoid seeing "who's that guy?" for the upcoming birthday thread!)
Bought a used car a couple of weeks ago from one of the small independent lots here in Ocala. Small office, but the salesman (Bob) had an office with an inside window that has a nice etching of the Gator logo, about 2 feet wide. We were talking about it while working on the papers, and he told us this story:
A guy calls him about a maroon SUV posted on the website for the lot. Asks a few questions, and then says "hold on to it, I'll be there in the morning. I'm coming from Tallahassee, to get it for my mother. The next morning the guy walks in to pick up the car. He sees the Gator logo on the window and says "Are you a Gator fan?" Bob says yes. The guy puffs up and says "Well I am Sandy so-and-so, assistant athletic director at FSU. And I don't do business with Gator fans." He turns around and walks out.
The thought of that arrogant SOB trying to buy a used car for his mother - and making a 6 hour round trip from Tallahassee for nothing - brings a smile to my face!
Let the 'nole bashing commence...
- Thread: Mac already meeting recruits
So, today I had just got my class settled in for the 5 minutes before the lunch bell rings [I'm a high school teacher btw] and one of my students who is on our football team [First Coast High School, Jacksonville, FL] asks me if he can leave right away because Coach McElwain is here to see him. I go, "What?!?! Where?" [he was the star WR on our team this year - we are district champs]. "In Coach C's office...can I go now?" Before I can answer there is a knock on my classroom door and its a student aide with a note from one of our assistant coaches asking for my student [as a high school teacher I'm not allowed to publish an enrolled students name in my class on social media - - if you PM me will disclose his name if you your are interested]. I send him on telling him I'm coming as soon as the lunch bell rings as I want to meet him. So lunch comes and I dismiss my class [10th grade Honors World History] and take off. I get to the coach's office and I'm looking through the window before I go in and I see my student but some file cabinets are blocking my view seeing who's talking to him. Our team's assistant coach sees me through the window and waves me in grinning because he knows why I'm there. I walk in and its not McElwain. It's Coach Steve Spurrier and his son Steve Jr. I couldn't believe. It was THE Gator. Coach Spurrier walked over to me grinning and said, "I understand you're a Gator?" I laughed and said, "I sure am and I wasn't expecting to see you!" Right then Steve Jr. [the WR coach and recruiting coordinator] walks over and says, "I know why your're here you want me to take the picture?" I was ecstatic. So here's my photo I had taken today. When my student got back to class I said I thought you said Coach McElwain was here to see you. He said he thought so too. He told me that after Coach Spurrier left out assistant coach told him that Coach McElwain had to cancel but he'll be in on Monday to see him. I looked it up after school today and I think Coach Mac was in Miami. Anyway, had a great day seeing my favorite Gator!
- Thread: What White America Fails to See
Any single view is myopic, by definition.
That's why I posted the statistics. Most of my friends (Black, White, and Other) would have never guessed those statistics.
For a guy like Av, every time he's pulled over it's a case of DWB. But he's not White. So he doesn't know the White experience. Get this--the Black stereotype of the White experience is just as flawed as the White stereotype of the Black experience that you ridicule.
There is no White World where everything comes easy by virtue of white skin. You don't get pulled over because white. You don't get followed because white. You don't get bad service because white. You know all the important people in town. The Judge goes to your church. The principal went to college with your Mom. Your Uncle is a policeman. Get pulled over? Just drop his name. Need a job? Dad calls his fraternity brother who hooks you up with a sweet summer gig at his law firm. College? You've got paid tutors, you go to the best schools, the teachers care about you, and of course, you're a legacy. Your Mom's cousin is the football coach. You get your moms 5 year old BMW as a hand-me-down. You go skiing in the Winter. Beautiful girls all want to date you. I also thought white people were wasteful, that they lacked common sense, they were too fancy, you know? Folks like us were grittier.
If you saw my skin, you would think "white guy" and maybe assume I have lived a live of privilege. You'd be wrong if you did. My skin is white, but I have never considered myself White. I had the same stereotypes of "white people" as you and none of those stereotypes applied to me.
Tell you what Fish. You tell these people what it's like growing up Black. I'll tell you what it's like growing up me. I'll start.
The first of my people to come to this Country came as indentured servants, slaves for a period of years. Others came later and worked on the railroads alongside other unwanted immigrants like the Chinese. They were exploited, not exploiters.
The Klan publicly whipped one of my people for having the temerity to date a White woman. You see, White isn't just a skin color, it is an ethnicity.
My parents came to this country as immigrants. My Dad grew up barefoot in a dirt-floor home with an outhouse. They used newspaper for TP. They slaughtered a hog once a year, and his Mother would cut 3 triangular pieces of skin off the hog and sew them together into some kind of medieval looking shoe that my Dad only wore in the winter time when the ground was frozen. He came to the US at age 14 in the 1920's. He started working full time right away in sweatshops, and hid in the factory basement when any inspectors came to check for illegal child labor. The family soon moved to Detroit and my Dad worked in a factory making gaskets for cars. He was smart, real smart, and a hard worker. One day a foreman complimented him on being such a great employee, and he was promoted. But then the foreman explained that this would be his last promotion, ever. Why? Because of his race (white skin notwithstanding). He had reached the glass ceiling. This was no secret. It was whitesplained to him. He had advanced as far as he could.
The army drafted him a month after Pearl Harbor. He went from draftee to Tech Sergeant in about a year's time (that's Sergeant First Class in modern parlance?). I told you, he was smart and good at math. Back then, they didn't have calculators. They had little books of firing tables with charts for azimuths. The artillery needed men who understood basic trigonometry.
WWII screwed him up. He had nightmares for decades after.
So he gets back to Detroit after the war and leads the charge to unionize his factory. The factory tried to create their own union, called a company union. Shills for the owners, nothing more. So my Dad won. They beat the company union and created their own real, independent union. Shortly thereafter, they were all notified that the factory was closing permanently. It had relocated to Tennessee based on tax breaks.
My Dad got his electrician's license. Eventually he wound up in Florida, as a maintenance man. Dark green uniform with his first name on a patch, and a mass of keys on his side.
My Mom was fresh off the boat. Arrived here in the late 60's.
English wasn't my first language. I have a strange sounding last name. We attended a different church. I didn't dress like the other kids, didn't eat like the other kids, didn't sound like the other kids. We weren't connected to any important people. Nobody in my family ever graduated high school much less attend college. Never had a vacation growing up. Went to the public schools we were zoned for. My parents had no idea about good school zones or bad. We never had much money. We rarely ate out. Much of our clothing was hand-me-downs.
I was able to pay for college myself with a National Merit Scholarship. English wasn't my first language, but I got pretty good at it. I worked on campus as a Desk Assistant and as a furniture mover, and I worked off campus at the McDonalds on University and 13th. I lived in the cheapest apartments in Gainesville. When my family needed money, the starving college student sent money home to help them. I wasn't in a fraternity or student government. My friends were other broke students who worked at McDonalds. Later I made some law school friends. They were different. Many were in fraternities or sororities. Many had money. Some had lots of it. Many had parents with connections, who were partners in big firms.
I got pulled over for nonsense. I got followed in stores (especially when I was younger and always when I was dressed grungy). I was picked on in school because of my ethnicity.
So that's the white privilege I bring to the table. A white skinned man who never considered himself White.
Tell us about you. It's not a competition to see who was more oppressed, or who had it tougher. That's silly. Truth is, we're ALL privileged to live in this country. Might not seem like it after the last few days, but we are ALL the lucky ones. This isn't meant to be a pity party. It's just an attempt to communicate one authentic white skinned experience to you, and for you to communicate one authentic Black experience back to me.
The United States did not invent slavery. That concept and practice has been around since the beginning of time and has been applied to every race and religion on the planet. It continued its sorry history into the beginnings of this country, HOWEVER, folks might remember the fact that the country also actually fought the bloodiest war in its history in large part to abolish slavery. Yes, the flag that flew over the union troops that fought to abolish slavery is the very same flag that people refuse to pledge allegiance to or to disrespect for utterly stupid reasons like the Kaepernick imbecile. Imagine what the dead soldiers who laid down their lives for the freedom that people enjoy today must think of people who shun the flag that united them in battle?
While the concepts of freedom and equality may not be practiced completely by certain individuals within our country, the fact remains that those concepts are the bedrock foundation of our nation. Anybody who thinks our flag or anthem is a sign of oppression is an unmitigated asshat of colossal proportions.
Saying that any of this is on the players or LDR for being too selfish to tell the staff he's hurt or whatever is nonsense. Any of these kids that's tough and wants to play will grit through pain and misery bc that's what has been engrained in them from the beginning. It's not the players job to self report his issues, and frankly if we had players pulling themselves out when they were hurting all y'all would be melting down about what giant vaginas we have on the team. The players are supposed to give everything they have, painful or not. It's the coaches job to notice when a guy is hurt or struggling and it's the coaches job to make the decision.
Bashing LDR is just wrong. By all accounts he's a good kid, hard worker and has given us everything he has. Limited or not he's done what he was supposed to. This issue is a staff issue, not a player one.
- Thread: Were Mac's critics right?
- Thread: Mac Presser
- Thread: Two Freshman WRs arrested
The flaming bag of shyt Mac got left started under Creyer, when we first thought it was a good idea to sign only two OL (both of whom were low 3 star reaches with no other top offers, I might add)? Kids in HS don't even remember when we had an offense, those that do remember an offense where everyone else watches while the QB runs the ball 30 times.
LAST year wasn't on Mac and getting 10 damn wins with that embarrassment of an OL was one helluva an accomplishment.
Given Ray's proximity to u of tinercee - the buttchuggin' cesspool of eternal fire (I'm pretty sure that's the one referenced in the Book of Revelation 20:14 - look it up) ...
I'm betting this Ark is a double-wide with a redwood deck and a half falling down mildewed above ground half filled with mosquito water pool.
Therefore... you can fit more than five people from GC on that thang.
In no particular order:
SQ/Cap'n - (we'll need breeders)
Bart - for the recreational herbs and spices
Phan - for the wine (you're welcome SQ)
Durty - personal trainer
Brad - relay chick stories of his youth and the woodford
t - comic relief
Cooter - to remind me of classic country song lyrics
Ray - guitar entertainment
Urg - to ban t to the pool
Law - to establish order in 'the new world' and to rank new recruits
Dubs - law enforcement and...we're nothing if not diverse and inclusive
812 - just because he's honer-able
Goon - for the good jokes
aka - musical kindred spirit
tag - boat driver
chevy - dog whisperer
nav - alpaca wrangler
crete - anchor
- Thread: With a heavy heart, I have to tell you that Gatorsports.com has made me an offer I can't refuse
So I went over to GSMB and started a thread to welcome us back.
Let me say this. Our team is learning that as a group they can do way more than as individuals. Team chemistry is showing more and more. The play calling on the lsu side was damned good. They mixed it up so well and had us off balance many times.. But when they got within the 15 all those options were not there and our Def. came up HUGE each time. We all love blowing teams out and strutting around like we did with SOS and Timmy but you cannot be prouder of a young team that left BatonRouge with a win on the last play when it was just man against man and our backs to the damned wall. No one can EVER take that away from these boys.,,,,,,,,,,Fck fsu fck bama fck the recruiting services and their star ratings.............this was a real team effort that defies all that sh#t...............
- Thread: Coach Mac gets a raise
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