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  1. itsgr82bag8r

    itsgr82bag8r Political Forum Fire Starter
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    Keep at it, persistence will eventually pay off.

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    • dubster1

      dubster1 Chip Kelly is a done deal
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      I was born on Eglin Air Force base in Florida. I was raised by a single mother who worked 2 jobs to support me and my brother. Mother is a strong willed strict disciplinarian who raised us to respect authority and your elders and we had a steady diet of whuppings. Mother also has very strong views on race and we were constantly reminded and given examples on why white people were evil. At the age of 10 mom got a better job and we moved to North Carolina, At 13 I began to play organized sports but mother made me work mowing lawns, recycling bottles and cans, cleaning gutters washing cars, to help pay for cleats, uniforms, entry fees. At 16 I was driving school buses and working at Mcdonalds on the weekends. I began contributing to the household and thought I would have some say in household matters. but my mother the dictator squashed that real quick. I graduated High School and knew that the classroom wasn't for me. I joined a plumber apprentice program. One day while under a crawl space I came face to face with the biggest black snake I had ever seen it looked like a bicycle inner tube. I freaked out raised my head and gashed it on a support beam. needless to say that was my last day as a plumber apprentice. I joined the military and it changed my life and how I see and judge people. I traveled around the world Germany, Korea and realized what mother taught me was not exactly true. there are great people of all races and you cant judge people based on race. I loved the military because we were all green. I served in desert storm and again the example was we wasn't African Americans, or Asian Americans or American Indians or White Americans we were simply AMERICANS. After the military I returned home and got accepted to the sheriffs academy after graduating the sheriffs academy. I was appointed to the detention center while I waited my appointment to become a road deputy. I met my wife who was working in the deputy clerks office and we had a daughter. I left the sheriffs office and started my career with the dept. of public safety.
      I would describe myself as an independent i believe in a strong military defense, liberal on social issues, less government, I'm pro choice. conservative with my money(my wife isn't) I have come full circle when it comes to people and realize that biases/predjudices doesn't necessary mean racism. I know what racism looks like and sounds like and if the inner voice tells you its wrong then its wrong you can spin it how you like. but I don't get caught up with that and the stereotypes. I volunteer my time to coach football, and I mentor at risk youths doing my part to give back to the black community. I love military history and I'm and avid bass fisherman and grill master. I am a Christian who believes I am my brothers keeper and quite simply I'm blessed . I will always help you if I can. as my mother has taught me god is always watching and listening. Thru all my travels and all the great people I've met along the way my mother remains the most inspirational figure in my life.
       
      • oxrageous

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        Let's be serious here: an elected official that openly states (verbally or in writing) that a sitting President should be assassinated should be removed from office. Period.
         
        • '78

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          Ever since I graduated, I've been arguing for stricter admissions standards.
           
          • Zambo

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            Man, I'm so sick of being compared to England or France I can't stand it.

            America is different than those places and I love it exactly for that reason. Immediately after our war of independence from English rule, we built a Navy and Marine Corps to travel to the other side of the world and fight Muslim pirates that had been ravaging the entire Mediterranean Sea. Even thought the trip was months long for us, vice a few days or weeks for the Europeans, WE were the ones who had to nut up and defeat these barbarians. And we have been the ones nutting up to get the job done around the world ever since. And its not because we are like them, its because we are DIFFERENT than them.

            I love V8 engines and 4x4 trucks and insanely fast motorcycles that can jump over houses. I love turbochargers and afterburners and red meat and bacon and work boots and snowmobiles and high power rifles. I love pocket knives and oil rigs and power tools and pulling out the big dog and hitting from the tips.

            I love that our national pastime is a violent euphemism for war, where modern day gladiators in body armor destroy each other in a game of power projection and land acquisition, while Europe's pastime is a kids game played in short pants. I love that men hold the door for ladies not because ladies can't open the door but simply because they are men, instead of the modern day reinvention of man into an equivocating, sniveling, pretentious metrosexual.

            What's amazing to me is that people are so spoiled they don't see the greatness. 10 men have walked on the moon and they were all Americans. We have the best infrastructure, the best military, the best athletes, the best economy, and IMO the best freedoms on the planet, and the last item on the list is a huge reason for the presence of the preceding items. We are allowed to do crazy stuff, push the envelope, and innovate. None of this stuff is done by people who crave safety and ease of life and boundaries.

            Its a fast paced, competitive society and of course along with the winners there are going to be losers who will use their first amendment right to complain that things are unfair or need to be changed. Mandate this and ban that. Give us all little boxes to operate in. I call those boxes prisons. People need to stop finding solutions by creating laws that restrict the freedom of their fellow man. Stop trying to turn the United States into a "safe space," where everybody gets a participation trophy for carrying out their assigned task according to the minimum standard.
             
            • Zambo

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              • B52G8rAC

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                expresses my feelings about the prima donnas in the NFL. No watching until there is an 18 game suspension for disrespecting my brothers in arms and the flag I served under. Frees up a lot of time on Sunday afternoon.
                 
                • AlexDaGator

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                  So you've heard about all the celebrities threatening to move to Canada. There is a secession movement getting hot in California. Seems like more than half the country is seriously depressed about the results of this election.

                  It shouldn't be this way. The president (even the entire FedGov) shouldn't matter this much.

                  The concept of federalism is a touchstone of our political system. A definition of sorts from Wikipedia:

                  We weren't designed to be governed from Washington DC. We were designed to be governed by our States with the FedGov only dealing with a few limited matters like foreign policy and national defense.

                  We are a large, diverse country. Wyoming is nothing like Maryland. Alaska is nothing like Massachusetts. Utah is nothing like Washington. Why should Montanans be governed by the same laws as New Yorkers and Bostonians?

                  Unfortunately, for years and years, the FedGov (and especially the presidency) has accumulated more and more power at the expense of the States.

                  The problem is partisans cheer this when it is their party that is in power. Full-throated support for Obama when he uses his pen and phone to impose his vision of America on his political opposites. Well, I warned you then that someday the shoe would be on the other foot. Democrats are now terrified of what a President Trump might do with his pen and phone.

                  You can't have it both ways.

                  The solution is for less power centralized in DC and more power being returned to the States where it belongs (coupled with less government power overall). If you're not happy in ultra-conservative Salt Lake City, you don't need to move to Canada. You can try Denver, or Seattle, or Portland, or San Fransisco. Unhappy in ultra-liberal Chicago? Try Houston or Oklahoma City. Vote with your feet. Vote with your wallet.

                  Liberals love to pontificate about conservatives "shoving religion down their throats" but lack the self-awareness to realize they are doing the same thing to conservatives, just with a different sort of religion.

                  Obama expanded the powers of the presidency to impose his values on millions of people who didn't want it. That's tyranny. Just as I opposed Obama's efforts, I would oppose Trump's efforts to impose his values on millions of people who don't want it. Red or Blue, tyranny is tyranny.

                  My point in this thread is to show you liberals who supported Obama's actions how wrong and dangerous that was.

                  This is why I support federalism, weaker government in general, more liberty, and more local control. This is why I'm a libertarian.

                  Alex.
                   
                  • ufgator812

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                    • G 2

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                      My wife took more than a little heat for her post on FB today:

                       
                      • dubster1

                        dubster1 Chip Kelly is a done deal
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                        Just so you fckers know i aint going no damn where
                         
                        • Zambo

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                          Do you have to be a contortionist to bend that far backward? Listen, if a soldier is walking down the street and some ass goes up to him an "exercises his freedom of speech" by calling him a baby-killer, would you expect that the soldier wouldn't take offense? The flag is the SYMBOL OF FREEDOM. By refusing you acknowledge it, all you are doing is telling everyone that your freedoms don't mean squat. It is the one thing all Americans should rally around. The fact that people have freedom to say and do what they want is bled for and REPRESENTED by the flag. In other words, he is pissing on the very thing that gives him the right to say what he wants. Its is such a pathetic, moronic, misguided display there really are no words for it. The best analogy I can think of is wearing red and black to the Florida Georgia game because you aren't happy with the campus police. Fking stupid.
                           
                          • gator1946

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                            I had a wife. I met her when I was 15. We got married, and I lost her after 40 years of marriage. For the first few years of our marriage she busted her ass. We needed the money. Then when things got easier she chose to be a mother. To be honest, she choose to be a great mother and she choose to live what some might call a pampered life. But when things got tough, either in personal situations or out in the real world, where something needed to be done, she was a force to be reckoned with. She did things I never thought were possible. She didn't give a damn about playing the roll of the man. She was anything but. Frankly her beauty, charm, humor, and business sense left men with their heads spinning. She simply wanted to make the world a better place. She did.

                            I fortunately am not familiar with the women described here.
                             
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                            • crosscreekcooter

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                              I got this email from a good friend that has belonged to a game management club in Georgia for 12 years. The club leases about 15,000 acres from an estate. The State of Georgia just bought the land and they will lose all lease rights to it's use. During the due diligence period, the state told them to not hunt any rattlesnakes on the land during this period as it was their intent to list them as endangered in the state.
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                              Anyone who has bought and then tried to use a hunting license will appreciate this story as well as a perfect reply to an over-reaching bureaucracy that seldom sees itself on the other end of it's ridiculous regulations…

                              STORY:
                              The State of Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife sent a letter to a home/landowner asking for permission to access a creek on his property to document the decline in a certain species of unheard of frogs.

                              The property owners’ response in the second letter is EPIC.

                              Original Letter from Oregon Dept. of Fish & Wildlife:

                              Dear Landowner:

                              ODFW Staff will be conducting surveys for foothill yellow-legged frogs & other amphibians over the next few months. As part of this research we would like to survey the creek on your property. I am writing this letter to request your permission to access your property.

                              Recent research indicates that foothill yellow-legged frogs have declined significantly in recent years and are no longer found at half their historic sites. Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated and will help contribute to the conservation of this important species.

                              Please fill out the attached postage-paid postcard and let us know if you are willing to let us cross your property or not. If you have any concerns about this project please give us a call. We would love to talk with you about our research.

                              Sincerely,
                              Steve XXXXXX
                              Conservation Strategy Implementation Biologist


                              RESPONSE FROM LANDOWNERS:

                              Dear Mr. XXXXXXXX:
                              Thank you for your inquiry regarding accessing our property to survey for the yellow-legged frog. We may be able to help you out with this matter.

                              We have divided our 2.26 acres into 75 equal survey units with a draw tag for each unit. Application fees are only $8.00 per unit after you purchase the "Frog Survey License" ($120.00 resident / $180.00 Non-Resident). You will also need to obtain a "Frog Habitat" parking permit ($10.00 per vehicle).

                              You will also need an "Invasive Species" stamp ($15.00 for the first vehicle and $5.00 for each add'l vehicle) Yo u will also want to register at the Check Station to have your vehicle inspected for non-native plant life prior to entering our property. There is also a Day Use fee, $5.00 per vehicle.

                              If you are successful in the Draw you will be notified two weeks in advance so you can make necessary plans and purchase your "Creek Habitat" stamp. ($18.00 Resident / $140.00 Non-Resident.)

                              Survey units open between 8 am and 3 pm but you cannot commence survey until 9 am and must cease all survey activity by 1 pm. Survey Gear can only include a net with a 2" diameter made of 100% organic cotton netting with no longer than an 18-ft handle, non-weighted and no deeper than 6' from net frame to bottom of net. Handles can only be made of BPA-free plastics or wood.

                              After 1 pm. you can use a net with a 3" diameter if you purchase the "Frog Net Endorsement" ($75.00 Resident / $250 Non-Resident). Any frogs captured that are r eleased will need to be released with an approved release device back into the environment unharmed.

                              As of June 1, we are offering draw tags for our "Premium Survey" units and application is again only $8.00 per application. However, all fees can be waived if you can verify "Native Indian Tribal rights and status.”

                              You will also need to provide evidence of successful completion of "Frog Surveys and You" comprehensive course on frog identification, safe handling practices, and self-defense strategies for frog attacks. This course is offered on-line through an accredited program for a nominal fee of $750.00.

                              Please let us know if we can be of assistance to you. Otherwise, we decline your access to our property but appreciate your inquiry.

                              Sincerely,
                              Larry & Amanda XXXXXXXX
                               
                              • AlexDaGator

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                                Hey Av, remember the last time a cute young black kid disappeared and it became national news? You know, like Caylee Anthony, Elizabeth Smart, Jessica Lunsford, Polly Klaas, JonBenet Ramsey, etc.? All cute white girls. Adam Walsh too so I guess a cute white boy might make the news once in a while. No black kids though. I guess black kids never disappear, right? Of course not. Boys disappear all the time. Black kids, Hispanic kids, Asian kids, all different kinds of kids disappear. A very small number become famous. They capture the national imagination. It's almost always a white girl. If you had to guess, based on what you saw in the media, you would assume that 90% of child disappearances were cute white girls, mostly blonde. The other 10% would be white boys. But that's not true, is it? That's a distorted opinion based not on statistics, but based on what you see in the media.

                                Follow me here.

                                You think there is an epidemic of cops shooting Blacks. Even Obama said so. You see it over and over again, and it's always a Black person getting shot. Must be because of racism because you don't see White people getting shot. So my social media feed is clogged with agonized pleas to get rid of the racist cops, with rants about how it is open season on Black people, how cops murder Blacks with impunity, whenever they want, sometimes just for the time off and the book deal. No wonder Black folks are mad. But is this reality, or is it that the media loves a cop kills Black guy story a lot more than a cop kills White guy story? Remember the video posted here about a week ago about the K9 that nearly killed the white guy on his bike?

                                Let's look at some statistics.

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                                So Whites are nearly 50% of police shooting victims, Blacks only 30%. If I randomly polled the American people (Black and White), how many would have guess that percentage? Of course, Blacks are over represented as a percentage of population, but they are also over represented in interactions with law enforcement so that's not as much of a disparity as you might think.


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                                What's this? Police killings aren't rising? No spiking? No epidemic?

                                No.

                                And here's the thing missing from that chart...the US population in 1976 was only 218 million. In 2013 it was 316.5 million. That's an increase of over 45% in population. That means that if we had the 2013 population in 1976, there would have been over 600 justifiable police homicides by firearm instead of 415. My point is that not only is that chart holding steady between 300 and 460, but on a per capita basis, it is going down sharply. So again, if you randomly polled Americans, how many would have guess that?

                                I know what my social media has looked like these last few days. I can't imagine how yours looks. Smart, educated people, white and black, railing against racist cops, talking about how the 2nd Amendment only applies to white people, how white people never worry about a routine traffic stop, white privilege, Black Lives Matter, a White attorney even used the hashtag #stopsayingnotallcopsarebad

                                The media gobbles it up. I don't think they are trying to start a race war. I just think they are driven by ratings. Elizabeth Smart gets eyes glued to the TV. So does Black man shot by White Police Officer (especially if unarmed). If the media knew George Zimmerman was Hispanic and his "gated community" was mid and lower class, you never would have heard of Trayvon Martin. If Caylee Anthony was named LaMichael Anthony, you never would have heard of him.

                                Out of a total population of 316.5 million in 2013, there were 11.3 million arrests nationwide. 458 resulted in justifiable homicides by police firearm.

                                But that's just arrests. Not many police interactions result in arrest.

                                http://www.nationalreview.com/article/394249/dojs-policing-statistics-dont-lie-ian-tuttle

                                So in 2011, law enforcement officers had encounters of one sort or another with almost 63 million Americans. There were around 400 justified police gun killings that year. That's .00063% Not a tenth of 1%, not a hundredth of 1%, not a thousandth of 1%, but 6 millionths of 1%. And the majority of them are white. And they include police shootings like Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

                                Yeah, racism sucks. And yeah, racism exists. And it's hard, REALLY hard, to believe cold statistics in charts and graphs over graphic video plastered over the news media night after night. But ultimately, the truth lives in those boring statistics.


                                Alex.
                                 
                                • Durty South Swamp

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                                  I watched this and was disgusted. Sharpe was literally foaming at the mouth, the hate and anger that he has for Tebow is on the level of a rabid dog. The dude probably cries himself to sleep at night knowing that not only did tebow win in Denver, but now looks good at baseball. I get the feeling deep down he has freaking tebow penis envy or something. And he didn't "almost" blame whitey and white privilege for tebow's baseball contract. He did blame it. He also kept screaming about how you shouldn't be allowed to play one sport until you've "mastered" another sport. What a freakin tard.

                                  He totally embarrassed himself and its great. I love it when these fools voluntarily expose themselves for the racist sycophants they are.
                                  As if that wasn't enough, then he goes into his racist rant about the flag and white privilege.

                                  Seriously, shut the **** up about privilege. A man whos celebrated, rich beyond most peoples wildest dreams, played a freaking backyard game for a living, and now gets to spout off about whatever he feels like on national tv has no business talking about privilege or oppression for that matter. If the country's so bad, pack up and leave. Oh that's right, you wont because this country glorifies you and allows you to make more money than you could ever know what to do with for simply having fun on sundays. Meanwhile the rest of us privileged types toil away trying to make ends meet, dealing with crappy bosses, and crappier paychecks, saving every extra cent to try and make our kids life's better, worry about the mortgage, the car payment, medical bills, and hope that we can save enough in a years time to afford a few days family vacation to disney so our kids don't feel like they've missed out.

                                  Please tell me more about all of our white privilege.
                                  Sorry if this should be in the PF.
                                   
                                  • maheo30

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                                    I stopped watching ESPN because of the political BS. I don't turn into sports news to hear about transgender, race baiting, feminism...ect.
                                     
                                    • '78

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                                        I had to sign up for this forum strictly because of this thread so I know my opinion is not going to matter to the posters that have the only opinion that counts but here goes.
                                        Cassius Clay was a loud mouthed, self important egomaniac. His rapid conversion to islam was a sham and a scam. The only reason he didn't go to Canada is because he had the money and the sycophants behind him to stay out of prison. Vietnam was not about killing black Americans, it was about stopping Communism. Has any of you Clay protectors actually researched how many innocent people were murdered in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam after the Americans pulled out? We're seeing the same thing in the Middle East now with ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the other extremist groups. It's not always about the immediate threat to America. It's looking forward and taking steps to prevent events.
                                        I lived thru this era and was in the Army in '66 and '67 and I consider what Clay did to be just as detrimental as what Hanoi Jane did.
                                        Just my .02 and adjusted for inflation .06.
                                         
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