With all the new blood coming in, it's probably time for us to introduce and re-introduce ourselves and the site.
Most of us were regularly posting on the Gator Sports Message Board, the GSMB, which was owned and operated by the Gainesville Sun. Ox was a mod. We had a disagreement with management who ignored the technological demands. They shut us down. Ox created this alternative and most of us found our way here.
This site is not over-moderated. In fact, it's barely moderated (which is the correct amount). Ox draws the line at overly suggestive images because the advertisers object. This is not a safe space for anybody--pumpers, dumpers, Gators, others, men, women, non-binary, right, or left. Have a thick skin and don't take insults personally.
We want you to have an av.
We all love the Gators. None of us are happy about the level of play this last decade. This has led to some spirited debate but we ALL love the Gators. While we do have our share of pumpers, we have been labeled as the dumper site. The truth is, we were right about Muschamp, McElwain, and Foley while most other sites were living in an alternate reality. Ultimately, we love the Gators and we want the program to succeed.
The PF used to be more balanced but we've slowly lost some of our more prolific liberal posters. Invite your liberal friends to join us. We're here to debate. Unlike your situation with your mods on THFSG, we tend to like our liberals and are even protective of them sometimes.
We have religious posters but rarely get into religious discussions like what you're seeing in the Green Mile thread.
We don't have as many women as Swamp Gas, but the ones we have are the best.
Our most popular poster is Cover2, a high school coach. His post-game threads are better than any paid sportswriter's article.
We have some really, REALLY smart and knowledgeable posters. Unfortunately, the smartest one stopped posting.
We tend more libertarian than anything else. We've got a bunch that don't "like" Trump the man but think he's doing a pretty good job given the circumstances.
I was a student during the Spurrier era. Undergrad degree in history, then law school, all at UF. Began as a prosecutor, then did corporate law, now in-house counsel at a not-for-profit. Married with a young son.
I was more of a Republican in my youth (grew up loving Reagan). I've gotten more and more libertarian as I've aged. I'm passionate about civil rights in general and a First Amendment fanatic in particular.
I love my God, my family, my country, and my Gators.
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I was born on Eglin Air Force base in Florida. I was raised by a single mother who worked 2 jobs to support me and my brother. Mother is a strong willed strict disciplinarian who raised us to respect authority and your elders and we had a steady diet of whuppings. Mother also has very strong views on race and we were constantly reminded and given examples on why white people were evil. At the age of 10 mom got a better job and we moved to North Carolina, At 13 I began to play organized sports but mother made me work mowing lawns, recycling bottles and cans, cleaning gutters washing cars, to help pay for cleats, uniforms, entry fees. At 16 I was driving school buses and working at Mcdonalds on the weekends. I began contributing to the household and thought I would have some say in household matters. but my mother the dictator squashed that real quick. I graduated High School and knew that the classroom wasn't for me. I joined a plumber apprentice program. One day while under a crawl space I came face to face with the biggest black snake I had ever seen it looked like a bicycle inner tube. I freaked out raised my head and gashed it on a support beam. needless to say that was my last day as a plumber apprentice. I joined the military and it changed my life and how I see and judge people. I traveled around the world Germany, Korea and realized what mother taught me was not exactly true. there are great people of all races and you cant judge people based on race. I loved the military because we were all green. I served in desert storm and again the example was we wasn't African Americans, or Asian Americans or American Indians or White Americans we were simply AMERICANS. After the military I returned home and got accepted to the sheriffs academy after graduating the sheriffs academy. I was appointed to the detention center while I waited my appointment to become a road deputy. I met my wife who was working in the deputy clerks office and we had a daughter. I left the sheriffs office and started my career with the dept. of public safety.
I would describe myself as an independent i believe in a strong military defense, liberal on social issues, less government, I'm pro choice. conservative with my money(my wife isn't) I have come full circle when it comes to people and realize that biases/predjudices doesn't necessary mean racism. I know what racism looks like and sounds like and if the inner voice tells you its wrong then its wrong you can spin it how you like. but I don't get caught up with that and the stereotypes. I volunteer my time to coach football, and I mentor at risk youths doing my part to give back to the black community. I love military history and I'm and avid bass fisherman and grill master. I am a Christian who believes I am my brothers keeper and quite simply I'm blessed . I will always help you if I can. as my mother has taught me god is always watching and listening. Thru all my travels and all the great people I've met along the way my mother remains the most inspirational figure in my life.
America is different than those places and I love it exactly for that reason. Immediately after our war of independence from English rule, we built a Navy and Marine Corps to travel to the other side of the world and fight Muslim pirates that had been ravaging the entire Mediterranean Sea. Even thought the trip was months long for us, vice a few days or weeks for the Europeans, WE were the ones who had to nut up and defeat these barbarians. And we have been the ones nutting up to get the job done around the world ever since. And its not because we are like them, its because we are DIFFERENT than them.
I love V8 engines and 4x4 trucks and insanely fast motorcycles that can jump over houses. I love turbochargers and afterburners and red meat and bacon and work boots and snowmobiles and high power rifles. I love pocket knives and oil rigs and power tools and pulling out the big dog and hitting from the tips.
I love that our national pastime is a violent euphemism for war, where modern day gladiators in body armor destroy each other in a game of power projection and land acquisition, while Europe's pastime is a kids game played in short pants. I love that men hold the door for ladies not because ladies can't open the door but simply because they are men, instead of the modern day reinvention of man into an equivocating, sniveling, pretentious metrosexual.
What's amazing to me is that people are so spoiled they don't see the greatness. 10 men have walked on the moon and they were all Americans. We have the best infrastructure, the best military, the best athletes, the best economy, and IMO the best freedoms on the planet, and the last item on the list is a huge reason for the presence of the preceding items. We are allowed to do crazy stuff, push the envelope, and innovate. None of this stuff is done by people who crave safety and ease of life and boundaries.
Its a fast paced, competitive society and of course along with the winners there are going to be losers who will use their first amendment right to complain that things are unfair or need to be changed. Mandate this and ban that. Give us all little boxes to operate in. I call those boxes prisons. People need to stop finding solutions by creating laws that restrict the freedom of their fellow man. Stop trying to turn the United States into a "safe space," where everybody gets a participation trophy for carrying out their assigned task according to the minimum standard.
Freedom of Speech means the government can’t stop you from saying what you want to say but it also means that it can’t compel you say what you don’t want to say.
Compelled speech is as bad as suppressed speech.
The baker isn’t refusing to sell her a cake. The baker will happily create a custom birthday cake if she asks. The baker will sell her any cake in the case.
So what’s the problem???
He won’t create a custom cake that celebrates her transition from male to female.
He also won’t create a Halloween cake with devils on it. He won’t create a cake with a stripper twirling around a pole on it. He won’t create a cake that disparages the US or veterans. HE ALSO REFUSES TO CREATE A CAKE THAT DISPARAGES BLACKS, HISPANICS, HOMOSEXUALS, OR THAT GLORIFIES NAZIS OR THE KLAN, OR THAT PRESENTS ANY OTHER MESSAGE THE BAKER IS MORALLY OPPOSED TO.
But of course you knew all that because the media can be counted on to give you the full story, amirite?
Is it your position that the Government should be able to force the baker to create art celebrating a message he is fundamentally and morally opposed to?
If so, please stop claiming you’re a champion of free speech because you aren’t.
By the way, this whole case is a set-up. The attorney set it up to go to court. She didn’t casually stroll into this cute little bakery and get thrown out on her ear. This was after the gay wedding cake incident. The attorney called and specifically said the cake was to celebrate her transition knowing she would be declined just to file a complaint against the baker. She was trying to set up a stronger case against the baker than the wedding cake case.
Be honest Windy. This isn’t a religious fundamentalist trying to shove his religious beliefs down her throat. This isn’t a religious fundamentalist intruding into the privacy of what this this person chooses to do in her own bedroom. To the contrary, it is the transsexual attorney using the power of government to force her beliefs and her morality down the baker’s throat. BAKE THE CAKE CITIZEN! BAKE IT OR ELSE!
I believe in freedom and liberty. I don’t want government shoving anybody’s morality down my throat.
Liberals often label conservatives as autocratic, dictatorial. However, it is conservatives (and especially libertarians) who want government to have LESS power over our lives.
- Thread: Federalism and this Election
So you've heard about all the celebrities threatening to move to Canada. There is a secession movement getting hot in California. Seems like more than half the country is seriously depressed about the results of this election.
It shouldn't be this way. The president (even the entire FedGov) shouldn't matter this much.
The concept of federalism is a touchstone of our political system. A definition of sorts from Wikipedia:
We are a large, diverse country. Wyoming is nothing like Maryland. Alaska is nothing like Massachusetts. Utah is nothing like Washington. Why should Montanans be governed by the same laws as New Yorkers and Bostonians?
Unfortunately, for years and years, the FedGov (and especially the presidency) has accumulated more and more power at the expense of the States.
The problem is partisans cheer this when it is their party that is in power. Full-throated support for Obama when he uses his pen and phone to impose his vision of America on his political opposites. Well, I warned you then that someday the shoe would be on the other foot. Democrats are now terrified of what a President Trump might do with his pen and phone.
You can't have it both ways.
The solution is for less power centralized in DC and more power being returned to the States where it belongs (coupled with less government power overall). If you're not happy in ultra-conservative Salt Lake City, you don't need to move to Canada. You can try Denver, or Seattle, or Portland, or San Fransisco. Unhappy in ultra-liberal Chicago? Try Houston or Oklahoma City. Vote with your feet. Vote with your wallet.
Liberals love to pontificate about conservatives "shoving religion down their throats" but lack the self-awareness to realize they are doing the same thing to conservatives, just with a different sort of religion.
Obama expanded the powers of the presidency to impose his values on millions of people who didn't want it. That's tyranny. Just as I opposed Obama's efforts, I would oppose Trump's efforts to impose his values on millions of people who don't want it. Red or Blue, tyranny is tyranny.
My point in this thread is to show you liberals who supported Obama's actions how wrong and dangerous that was.
This is why I support federalism, weaker government in general, more liberty, and more local control. This is why I'm a libertarian.
I had a wife. I met her when I was 15. We got married, and I lost her after 40 years of marriage. For the first few years of our marriage she busted her ass. We needed the money. Then when things got easier she chose to be a mother. To be honest, she choose to be a great mother and she choose to live what some might call a pampered life. But when things got tough, either in personal situations or out in the real world, where something needed to be done, she was a force to be reckoned with. She did things I never thought were possible. She didn't give a damn about playing the roll of the man. She was anything but. Frankly her beauty, charm, humor, and business sense left men with their heads spinning. She simply wanted to make the world a better place. She did.
I fortunately am not familiar with the women described here.
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