Recruiting 2022 Recruiting Thread: Evers and CJ Smith Decommit

[Renard904]

Thanks LT. SOS is like Santa Class for me. I watched his teams during my formative years. My adolescent idolizing caused me to be bias towards his teams. Just looking for clearer insight on what it was really like and how he’d do in today’s game. I stated this in the Urban thread, but I think winners win. They usually skirt the line because they’re so obsessive that they don’t leave any stone unturned. But what set SOS apart was his competitiveness. He wanted to win everything. And he hated losing to rivals. Mullen says it, but doesn’t coach like it.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I’m done talking to you. I tried. .

 

[lizardbreath]

I miss the days when "We want players that want to be Gators" was our sales pitch. (Spurrier)

"Ol' Spurrier would be a three-point favorite at his own execution." (Rex Edmondson)

First and foremost; SOS is a great natural leader. He exudes supreme confidence, and at times, the pure-damn gall required to impose his will upon his adversary - and of course there is a clarity of purpose like few others.

Those were the attributes that attracted many great players to UF for over a decade. The chance to become a Real Florida Gator and to do it under the guiding hand of the greatest Gator of them all. Sadly, DM is clearly NOT SOS in a number of areas. But It's not his fault for not being SS or UM, not many are. Sadly, DM keeps shooting himself in the foot, and most distressing of all is that there is no SOS or UM quality candidate on the UF horizon.

 

[jdh5484]

Thanks LT. SOS is like Santa Class for me. I watched his teams during my formative years. My adolescent idolizing caused me to be bias towards his teams. Just looking for clearer insight on what it was really like and how he’d do in today’s game. I stated this in the Urban thread, but I think winners win. They usually skirt the line because they’re so obsessive that they don’t leave any stone unturned. But what set SOS apart was his competitiveness. He wanted to win everything. And he hated losing to rivals. Mullen says it, but doesn’t coach like it.

He hated the leghumpers with a PASSION. He hated all the SECE rivals.
Bowden was his nemesis though.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

But It's not his fault for not being SS or UM, not many are. Sadly, DM keeps shooting himself in the foot, and most distressing of all is that there is no SOS or UM quality candidate on the UF horizon.

Douchebag.... is Douchebag. I hate to hire but honestly I kind of like him.some.of the time.

But then he decides to go bacl to running the option more with Kyle Trash

And takes a vacation instead of practicing for the bowl game. Come on fuchser, you cant take ine extra day off and practice at least 4 GD times?

Or keeps Grantham, Robinson, Knox and a few other losers on this staff.

It doesnt whether we like him a little or not. He just isnt a champion and doesnt have what it takes to be a Gator HC. Zook was the same way, although, frankly, Zook tried harder. Dan is just GD lucky he isnt dealing with Bowden and Fulmer at their height.

 

[rogdochar]

Don't ya just know, Swonkey wears sunglasses in church for fear that God will pester him for his autograph.?

 

[TheDouglas78]

It doesnt whether we like him a little or not. He just isnt a champion and doesnt have what it takes to be a Gator HC. Zook was the same way, although, frankly, Zook tried harder. Dan is just GD lucky he isnt dealing with Bowden and Fulmer at their height.

Zook had a lot of faults, and he wasn't a winner or a true leader... But one thing you couldn't say is that Zook didn't work. Zook tried, and worked hard to be something he just naturally wasn't (nor ever could be). Can't say that about Disco Dan.

 

[lizardbreath]

Yeah, I can dig it. It's weird and vexing as hell that DM has enough ability to occasionally make me wish he could somehow find a way to improve dramatically before it's too late. But when he refused to recognize who the 2nd biggest turd in the punchbowl was by not firing The Toad, he proved that he, DM, was indeed our number-one problem. There is nothing in his recent "on the field track record" or general demeanor as HFBC at UF to engender much confidence in anything even approaching the level of leadership and confidence we saw at UF under SS and UM. Whatever their trials and tribulations may have been, SS and UM had "IT." To this point in time, it appears that DM does not have IT and is looking at his last chance to pull something out of his hat and prove me wrong. Que Sera, Sera.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

I honestly feel bad for guys like Zook. Nobody worked harder, some may have worked as hard, but not possible to work harder. He was Saban level work ethic, but just doesnt have "it" as breath discussed above.

Dan has the mental acuity and offensive ability to be a very high level coach and win championships, but he is lazy and apathetic. Content to cash his multimillion dollar checks and burn lots of time vacationing and kicking back in his office. Its very sad that he's been given mental abilities that others would kill for, and chooses to squander them, while guys like Zook, for all their mental deficiencies, work their ever loving asses off to do their absolute best.

 

[soflagator]

It doesnt whether we like him a little or not. He just isnt a champion and doesnt have what it takes to be a Gator HC. Zook was the same way, although, frankly, Zook tried harder. Dan is just GD lucky he isnt dealing with Bowden and Fulmer at their height.

I’m not sure if this is what you were implying or not, but just to be clear, Zook never dealt with BB or PF at their height either. The vols were terrible in ‘02 and average at best in ‘03-04, while the noles were already a shell of what they’d been during Zook’s three years with Bowden already beginning his descent.

Only Spurrier caught both of those guys/programs at their prime. Though to be fair, he was .500 against them collectively.

Zook peaked in the 2002 uga game. That was his ceiling. An upset here or there, a late season push once the East was all but lost, and a lot of fast talk. Anything beyond that was never going to happen. It may be the same with Mullen, albeit for different reasons.

 

[soflagator]

I honestly feel bad for guys like Zook. Nobody worked harder, some may have worked as hard, but not possible to work harder. He was Saban level work ethic, but just doesnt have "it" as breath discussed above.

Dan has the mental acuity and offensive ability to be a very high level coach and win championships, but he is lazy and apathetic. Content to cash his multimillion dollar checks and burn lots of time vacationing and kicking back in his office. Its very sad that he's been given mental abilities that others would kill for, and chooses to squander them, while guys like Zook, for all their mental deficiencies, work their ever loving asses off to do their absolute best.

You really do have to appreciate people like Zook. How easy would it be to simply vacuum around the rug instead of shaking it out and to just say you disinfected the pens. He doesn’t settle for anything less than 100%.

 

[Renard904]

I honestly feel bad for guys like Zook. Nobody worked harder, some may have worked as hard, but not possible to work harder. He was Saban level work ethic, but just doesnt have "it" as breath discussed above.

Dan has the mental acuity and offensive ability to be a very high level coach and win championships, but he is lazy and apathetic. Content to cash his multimillion dollar checks and burn lots of time vacationing and kicking back in his office. Its very sad that he's been given mental abilities that others would kill for, and chooses to squander them, while guys like Zook, for all their mental deficiencies, work their ever loving asses off to do their absolute best.

Same could be said for Muschamp. I believe he worked hard. And I think he really wanted to succeed here. He’s just not a head coach. Maybe he’s a good on field coach/motivator, but running a program is not his thing.
Mullen doesn’t have the fortitude to be a good head coach. He’s living proof that Xs and Os aren’t everything. In any competitive avenue in life it’s always the details that separates good from great. And as evidenced by his mismanagement of time on several occasions last season, he’s not very detail oriented. And that lack of detail bleeds over to recruiting. Which actually explains a lot about his failures so far.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Same could be said for Muschamp. I believe he worked hard. And I think he really wanted to succeed here. He’s just not a head coach. Maybe he’s a good on field coach/motivator, but running a program is not his thing.

honestly he was even very overrated as a coordinator. As far as I know he's the only coordinator that Saban ever demoted.

 

[5-Star Finger]

honestly he was even very overrated as a coordinator. As far as I know he's the only coordinator that Saban ever demoted.

I'm not sure why you have that idea.




No idea.

Do you even know what a midline is, Donk?

I didn't think so.

I didn't think so.

 

[neteng]

honestly he was even very overrated as a coordinator. As far as I know he's the only coordinator that Saban ever demoted.

Id take him right now as our DC with no hesitation.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

honestly he was even very overrated as a coordinator. As far as I know he's the only coordinator that Saban ever demoted.

Was Kiffin demoted or merely ignored?

 

[GatorJ]

RNN: "Mullen Says He's Been Trying To Fire Assistant For Years"

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Was Kiffin demoted or merely ignored?

l I think he left before Saban killed him.

Chimp was literally demoted from coordinator to DB coach.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

RNN: "Mullen Says He's Been Trying To Fire Assistant For Years"

I've always thought if I were going to another forum, that would be it.

 

[5-Star Finger]

Id take him right now as our DC with no hesitation.

It would be the most public yet of our many humiliations.