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Florida has a population of 20 million with three P5 conference teams. Georgia has a population of 10 million with two P5 teams. (am I leaving someone out?). So technically UGA has less to share.
 

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In my opinion Mac needs to make sure he is pulling his share of in-state talent and that is something he has not been successful at yet. He has gotten some, but not enough (especially the elite).
We dont seem to do much in state with the elite kids. We also seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in Trailerbama, probably bc thats where Mac's few HS coaching contacts are.
 

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whats with the turkey at the end? Is that supposed to be a gamecock or soemthing?
 

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Did you read what I wrote? I specifically said Mac needs to do better in-state
LOL. Your first two paragraphs sound like excuses for Mac to me. Would you agree he is underachieving?
 

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Florida has a population of 20 million with three P5 conference teams. Georgia has a population of 10 million with two P5 teams. (am I leaving someone out?). So technically UGA has less to share.
Auburn is damn near in-state. So is Clemson.
 

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LOL. Your first two paragraphs sound like excuses for Mac to me. Would you agree he is underachieving?

n my opinion Mac needs to make sure he is pulling his share of in-state talent and that is something he has not been successful at yet. He has gotten some, but not enough (especially the elite).
 

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n my opinion Mac needs to make sure he is pulling his share of in-state talent and that is something he has not been successful at yet. He has gotten some, but not enough (especially the elite).

@T REX - you "liked" this comment. This was a copy and paste from the last paragraph of what I put before. Don't just assume I am full of sunshine and pumping everything... read what I write.

The reality is that Kirby is doing what he should be doing and that was really the point of my post. He is owning his state and he is getting elite talent from his state. Is there a difference between competing with Ga Tech instate and competing with FSU and Miami... of course, but there is more talent in Florida so there is really no excuse.. .plus as others have mentioned... Clemson, USC, Auburn, UF, FSU, Bama, etc... are all close enough to Georgia to pose a threat.

Do I think it is harder to recruit in Florida than Georgia... yes. Do I think Kirby would be doing better in Florida from a recruiting perspective then Mac.. absolutely.
 

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Florida has a population of 20 million with three P5 conference teams. Georgia has a population of 10 million with two P5 teams. (am I leaving someone out?). So technically UGA has less to share.

Yeah, but don't think Ga Tech is a real recruiting threat to the top instate talent. The dawgs get a lot more recruiting competition from teams outside their state for their instate kids.
 

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@T REX - you "liked" this comment. This was a copy and paste from the last paragraph of what I put before. Don't just assume I am full of sunshine and pumping everything... read what I write.

The reality is that Kirby is doing what he should be doing and that was really the point of my post. He is owning his state and he is getting elite talent from his state. Is there a difference between competing with Ga Tech instate and competing with FSU and Miami... of course, but there is more talent in Florida so there is really no excuse.. .plus as others have mentioned... Clemson, USC, Auburn, UF, FSU, Bama, etc... are all close enough to Georgia to pose a threat.

Do I think it is harder to recruit in Florida than Georgia... yes. Do I think Kirby would be doing better in Florida from a recruiting perspective then Mac.. absolutely.

Hell i'm beginning to think Sandusky could recruit in Florida better than Mac.
 
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Yeah, but don't think Ga Tech is a real recruiting threat to the top instate talent. The dawgs get a lot more recruiting competition from teams outside their state for their instate kids.
I doubt Georgia and Georgia Tech ever compete with eachother for recruits if they do it's not very many.
 

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So with FNL this weekend, our we pretty much guaranteed to secure at least one commitment? Didn't someone say a TE was close to committing?
 

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But here's UF's problem = they took an "ill-founded" chance in hiring Mac and now UF is stuck.
I wish they'd have hired Kerwin Bell instead of Mac. I'm sure Kerwin could have "private" skull sessions with Spurrier on hiring his "crew", even with Steve finishing up at USCe. Then once SOS came back to UF, Steve would have no feeling to stay away from "interfering" by helping his long-time protege Bell. I bet that would put dynamic energy in our play-calling, our player development, and our score-totals and our recruiting. How furiously would Bell/Spurrier scheme to beat UT, UGA, FSU? Many say we need a return to the SOS 90's Gators, well there it is, right in front of our boosters' eyes.

I'm saying "as a pig in a poke HC-guess", Gator Great, Kerwin had more upside than Mac. The media would have been flooded with videos of Kerwin's Auburn win. Plenty of other real Gator connections to tout (Spurrier's 90's Gator highlights) that recruits would pick up on ... a totally jacked-up atmosphere so different from those "here's Mac, remember he had a part in Bama's NC". Everybody could see Mac wasn't essential to Bama's winning ways.

Still, knowing the confused "stall" that an HC upheaval puts into a program, IMO we've got to keep Mac a bit longer, all while hoping he has an "epiphony" about Nussbust and supporting cast of UF's total sciff to row. We/Mac need stronger oarsmen ... in player development, in recruiting, in practice-instruction. UF should have charismatic projectors. Like how charismatic Spurrier was. He got TV-time, even if the many media-types didn't like him, he was too much a funny-gem to pass by. We need a Spurrier-era deja vu. UF needs a "Spurrier era" deja vu. IMO that requires a Gator Great that Spurrier is already tightly bonded to. Bell would give us a "free-range" SOS adviser (with a visor). Hell, Bell may be able to talk Spurrier into being his OC? The renewed fun & excitement Bell could arrouse in Steve may just get Spurrier to jump on-board. Even with Steve as ambassador, there'd be "dinner at my house" skull sessions between the duo on who to hire, playbook design, QB development, etc,etc, = the entire UF CFB Program - built as it should be.

The "Spurrier-Bell curve would be fast upward for sure. No dumbfounded stalls allowed. What isn't working will be quickly snatched out and changed. Our Offense would climb so very fast.
UF's "style" of play would become the toast of media blabs & highlights. Talk about an AD who put blind-faith in Messedchomp and in McElwain, but couldn't put some faith in Kerwin Bell, couldn't foresee the alumni boosters' activation, couldn't see the marketability of Kerwin's own high enthusiasm for being back ... no zen--blahs there. Out of the woodwork would come UF NFL Gator Greats with positive hype. And Gator Nation would have an HC who after years of working while waiting & hoping had finally gotten his "Dream Job" (with Spurrior again would be beyond his dreams). Plus KB would never be pulled away by another school. He'd be 100% here 'til UF had to put him out to pasture. Who thinks Kerwin would be comfy with an offense reeked in the hundreds?

We've had Messedchomp as a trial, Mac as a trial. So who thinks Kerwin Bell wouldin no way be a "win-win" trial. There's no "big-wheel" HCs out there longing to coach in Gainesville. I've heard that some had turned down Foley's offers. GatorNation can be sure that Kerwin Bell is out there longing to be Gator HC. Longing to return GatorNation to a consternation to Bama, UGa, and FSU.
 
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