The National Signing Day Thread

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Guess it is.

@ThomasGoldkamp: Umm, OK.

Nothing like taking commitments the next head coach may or may not want.


I did some research on this kid and he's the kid who committed to UF in February.....but he didn't have a "committable" offer and it was taken down by all the recruiting sites.

Now he's committing again? This is kind of comical. I'm going to scroll back in this thread now and see if there are any posts on it (if the thread is that old).
 

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I did some research on this kid and he's the kid who committed to UF in February.....but he didn't have a "committable" offer and it was taken down by all the recruiting sites.

Now he's committing again? This is kind of comical. I'm going to scroll back in this thread now and see if there are any posts on it (if the thread is that old).

Awesome. Another 3* DB.
 

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Awesome. Another 3* DB.

I doubt this kid signs w/ us. I think he thinks he's cute. He committed to us in Feb....and was told, "Uh, dude, you don't have a committable offer". Now all of a sudden he does? I can't imagine Shannon is allowed to accept an offer from this kid. Kiffin got some bad pub last year when he cut loose some of the kids committed to the previous staff. I'd like to nip this in the bud and tell the kid, 'thanks but no thanks'.
 

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I'm wondering whether this kid is being recruited by Frost at UCF. Maybe he thinks Frost will keep him if he commits to UF.
 

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Zach’s Mail Stack: Recruits are concerned with Gators’ coaching search, not their record

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-gators-recruiting-zachs-mail-stack-110817



If UF fails to make a bowl, will it dramatically impact the 2018 class, or does that simply depend on the new hire?


Abolverdi: Florida’s record and postseason play might matter if Jim McElwain still coached the Gators and his entire staff was returning next season.

Another year of offensive struggles and off-the-field distractions — coupled with a losing season and hot-seat talk — would have been a red flag for recruits if no coaching changes were made.

But with McElwian out and a new staff coming in — save for possibly a few current assistants — recruits are about to see the Florida football program change at its foundation. So the results of this season are irrelevant.

Recruits want to know who the next UF coach will be and when it’s going to happen. The Florida-FSU game will draw interest, but Gators commits and targets won’t care if the team doesn’t make the Birmingham Bowl.



It’s astonishing that not a single kid has decommitted considering Mcelwain was fired. Are these kids just waiting to see who the next hire is? Also, Corral appears to be the glue holding it all together, what’re the chances he stays committed?


Abolverdi: It is pretty astonishing, Dennis.

I expect the Gators to eventually have a couple de-commitments because that’s just natural during a coaching transition. A few Florida commits are already taking visits and making sure they have a back-up plan in place.

But it’s certainly a positive sign that no class members have backed off their pledges yet. Many of them have said they committed to the school and not the staff, but those relationships still matter. If the new coach cleans house and doesn’t retain anybody, that could cause a few commits to waver.

I’ve said before that Gators QB commit Matt Corral is the glue keeping Florida’s class together, but interim coach Randy Shannon, the assistants and recruiting staffers are pulling their weight as well and staying in contact with prospects.

I think Corral will stick with the Gators if they hire UCF coach Scott Frost. If he’s on board that hire or another candidate, many recruits will follow his lead.

Can you give us a percentage on top head coaching candidates that UF likely land? Me personally think if it's not Scott Frost it will be Mike Norvell

Abolverdi: I got so many questions this week about the coaching search, so here are my thoughts on the candidates.

Most recruits, players and fans would be happy with any of the guys in my top 5. Frost, USF’s Charlie Strong and Oregon’s Willie Taggart would best hires from a recruiting standpoint, but I think the personalities and pedigree of Matt Campbell (Iowa State) and Mike Norvell (Memphis) would both do well on the trail for Florida.

I don’t expect Chip Kelly or Dan Mullen to happen, so they’re not included below.

Scott Frost: 60 percent

Mike Norvell: 20 percent

Charlie Strong: 10 percent

Willie Taggart: 5 percent

Matt Campbell: 5 percent ($9.4 million buyout)
 

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bowl can take CS and WT and stick them right where the sun dont shine.

Maybe I haven’t been paying attention, but I don’t understand the fascination with Taggart.

Charlie isn’t my top choice, but his success with USF and loovle makes me wonder if his time at Texas was doomed from the start. I truly don’t know if he could bring similar success to UF, but I’d give him a chance to prove it.
 

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Taggart is a joke or perhaps the fascination of some who are race deranged.
 

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just curious about some of the people who are seem really set against Taggart and Strong: what exactly are your issues with each?
 

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just curious about some of the people who are seem really set against Taggart and Strong: what exactly are your issues with each?


Wellll, in one sentence, they don't know how to arrange themselves in alphabetical order.
 

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Taggart is 45-49. We suck but we don't suck that bad yet.

He makes Ron Zook look like a great option in comparison.
 

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just curious about some of the people who are seem really set against Taggart and Strong: what exactly are your issues with each?

I've said several times that Strong is at a perfect location in Tampa, similar to his first stop at Louisville. At this point at least, he has shown himself to be a guy who can come into a stable situation and keep it running well, with the occasional big year. And that is sufficient at those schools.

In stark contrast, the demands of a place like UF(or UT) are too much. Not to mention he'd be walking into another dysfunctional team, which totally didn't work in Austin. I just don't think he's a rebuild guy.

I don't know much about Taggart other than record. And as has been pointed out, it's not stellar. I'm sure he's a decent coach, but not what we need at this juncture.

The one thing that has been stated numerous times is that whoever we get, it needs to be a name that catches people's attention and makes us an immediate threat. Charlie would fit the "name" part pretty well, but would carry as many question marks as answers because of this tenure at UT. Taggart wouldn't scare anyone, nor give anyone a sense that UF is about to make a statement.

That would be my take on those two.
 

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I don't think either of those guys should be among the first choices, but I don't think I would be really upset if we ended up there. I hear those who don't like Taggart's record. I realize that he's taken over some crappy situations, but I think we've seen from people like Meyer and now Frost, that turnarounds can happen much quicker than what Taggart has done.

Strong knows how to recruit Florida and how to build a defense. His offenses at Texas weren't that bad once he went with Gilbert.
 

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I really like CS and my heart says he is a nice second tier option. Im not sure my head agrees though.

Perhaps he would be a beast for us w the right OC, but it is hard to KEEP the right OC and hard to get rid of the wrong ones.

Compared to Taggart? CS blows him out of the water. CS is a Gator, just looks right standing on our sideline and has a much better record despite taking over at two troubled schools. Lets face it, almost every HC takes over a bad situation. If it werent going poorly the last guy wouldnt have been fired. I dont even know why anyone would mention Taggart or how Oregon got desperate enough to hire him.
 
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I don't think either of those guys should be among the first choices, but I don't think I would be really upset if we ended up there. I hear those who don't like Taggart's record. I realize that he's taken over some crappy situations, but I think we've seen from people like Meyer and now Frost, that turnarounds can happen much quicker than what Taggart has done.

Strong knows how to recruit Florida and how to build a defense. His offenses at Texas weren't that bad once he went with Gilbert.

No doubt there. Of the two, he'd be my preference, if for no other reason than I like him and I know he has a place in his heart for UF. But I think so much depends on circumstances. If, for example, he'd been tabbed to take over for Meyer in late 2009, I would've been good with it. If it were him instead of WM in 2010, I think many would've been ok. But at this point, with the 7 years we've just endured, the notion of bringing in a known defensive guy who was just losing to Kansas roughly a year ago and is still a bit unproven in this capacity, would be upsetting to quite a few. And as much as I'd rally around him and hope for the best, I really couldn't blame them.
 

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Ja’Marr Chase could be first of a few de-commitments for Florida at WR

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/impact-analysis-jamarr-chase-florida

One of the most important pieces in Florida’s top-10 recruiting class has left the group.

Ja’Marr Chase, the nation’s No. 6-ranked WR by 247Sports, de-committed from the Gators on Wednesday. He made a surprise pledge to Florida in late July, but his latest move didn’t come as much of a shock.

Chase committed to the coaches more so than the school — specifically Tim Skipper. He served as Chase’s area recruiter and primary contact at UF, playing a vital role in his pledge to the Gators. It simply doesn’t happen without him.

The top-100 overall recruit was also attracted by the summertime buzz surrounding Jim McElwain’s program and the commitment of Matt Corral, who was rated a 5-star quarterback when he and Chase attended Friday Night Lights.

That event is when the core of Florida’s class came together, with Corral, Chase, Dameon Pierce, Jacob Copeland and Randy Russell all conversing with one another and making a collective decision to commit that week.

Given Chase’s proximity from Gainesville, Fla., and his lack of connections to the Florida football program, he was always the most likely member of that core group to leave the class — even before McElwain’s departure.

Once that happened and Skipper’s future at UF became uncertain, so did Chase’s. And with other schools turning up the heat on him and at least a three weeks left in Florida’s coaching search, Chase isn’t willing to wait it out.

Corral, Pierce and Russell are being patient with the process and staying committed for now, as is Copeland. However, Alabama is going all on for the top-100 WR and he returned to Tuscaloosa last weekend for the third time this fall.

Copeland may wait on the Florida hire before he officially decides to re-opens his recruitment or flip, but things are trending in that direction. And if the next coach chooses not to retain the primary recruiters for Florida commits Corey Gammage (Ja’Juan Seider), Tyquan Thornton (Randy Shannon) and Jalynn Williams (Kerry Dixon II), all three of them could be gone as well.

A big-name hire or some key staff additions might keep some of those guys in the fold and may even bring Chase back on board, but the latter seems unlikely.
 

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Given Chase’s proximity from Gainesville, Fla., and his lack of connections to the Florida football program, he was always the most likely member of that core group to leave the class — even before McElwain’s departure.
That's the key to that whole article and exactly what I've heard from the beginning. He was always shaky.
 

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I'm not really worried about recruiting at this point. There is nothing that can really be done until a new coach is hired. Right now, recruiting is about hiring the right guy and doing it quickly. Hopefully a lot of recruits wait to see who we get.
 

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