UF's Football Facilities - Finally begins (on lacrosse)

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Not nearly enough. We need enough for all the position groups.

Support staff is a big problem too. All the big staff teams, Bammer, LSU, Barn, Ugly, FSUx, Clemson, OSU, Meatchikin etc have dozens more. Enough so basically immerse themselves in a subject, so reviewing film of one particularly team for like a year, til they KNOW every player, ever tendency. It's basically NFL level prep. You can see the difference watching the teams.
I can't believe we don't have conference rooms for each position group. If this is true, that is embarrassingly stupid. This is nothing to solve. Very cheap.

And to be honest, the cost of support staff should not be prohibitive. Spending $100M on a facility gets a little crazy imo.
 

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We don't have multiple conference rooms? I'm thinking the biggest problem is lack of support staff.

Not nearly enough. We need enough for all the position groups.

Support staff is a big problem too. All the big staff teams, Bammer, LSU, Barn, Ugly, FSUx, Clemson, OSU, Meatchikin etc have dozens more. Enough so basically immerse themselves in a subject, so reviewing film of one particularly team for like a year, til they KNOW every player, ever tendency. It's basically NFL level prep. You can see the difference watching the teams.

This is something a beat writer could actually ask about and go into in a column. Maybe it would need to be done in the off season, but it would be interesting to know about. If the UAA won't give a clear answer, perhaps they could ask players or recent former players.

Does UF have enough conference rooms UF doesn't mean UF needs dozens more, UF needs the right amount. Even if that answer is yes UF has plenty of conference rooms, are one or two so much better equipped that there is still a conference room bottleneck.

That said, these deficiencies do not cause substitution penalties etc. Lack of coaching does.
 

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We aren't getting into an arms race, period.
 

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We aren't getting into an arms race, period.

We may not, which will put extra need on the ability to coach 'em up or recruit like a banshee or both.

Small wonder why SOS and Meyer were the exception to the rule. And why the Florida AD always has his work cut out.
 

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We're gonna need mo money if we're gonna build something bigger than the Jeremy Foley Facility For Players That Don't Play So Good.

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I remember when the subject first came up, three or four years ago, maybe longer. Many people scoffed, many saw it for what it was, a potential sore spot on UF's (and Foley's) resume.

Law made a big deal of it. Many of you jumped his butt for being negative.

Now, in spite of a desperate effort at catch-up, we learn that the Florida job may not be as sexy as some would like to think because our facilities are seen as outdated and second-rate compared to our peers.

This in spite of our being one of the richest programs in America.

Ouch.

Yeah but it's stupid money, like giving contract extensions to underachieving coaches, consecutively and not paying proven assistant coaches what they are worth when we had them.
 

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If facilities didn't matter, these schools would have just taken the $100+ million that they invested in facilities, loaded it into a truck and drove the truck to Nick Saban's house.

Facilities matter a lot. If they didn't, schools wouldn't be spending that kind of cash. It's pretty basic economics.
 

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Why do we need facilities, we don’t play football anymore. I’ve watched every game this year and I haven’t seen anything resembling football.
 

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UF has a great School of Architecture; surely, they can pruduce plans for a 2-story building atop a parking lot.
These could house whatever: weight room, physical therapy, multiple A-V rooms, rec-room, mess hall, kitchen, hypnosis tombs, movie theater, tanning booths, have a confetti-cannon-room (to get the feel of what it's like to win a championship) etc.etc. Actually, all of that can probably fit over 10%-25% of the present parking lot. Do not let limited space cramp our style.
 

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UF has a great School of Architecture; surely, they can pruduce plans for a 2-story building atop a parking lot.
These could house whatever: weight room, physical therapy, multiple A-V rooms, rec-room, mess hall, kitchen, hypnosis tombs, movie theater, tanning booths, have a confetti-cannon-room (to get the feel of what it's like to win a championship) etc.etc. Actually, all of that can probably fit over 10%-25% of the present parking lot. Do not let limited space cramp our style.

I'm like you rog, most of the time, where there's a will, there's a way.
 

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I remember when the subject first came up, three or four years ago, maybe longer. Many people scoffed, many saw it for what it was, a potential sore spot on UF's (and Foley's) resume.

Law made a big deal of it. Many of you jumped his butt for being negative.

Now, in spite of a desperate effort at catch-up, we learn that the Florida job may not be as sexy as some would like to think because our facilities are seen as outdated and second-rate compared to our peers.

This in spite of our being one of the richest programs in America.

Ouch.
Yes, when FSU got their indoor practice facility, I opined that we needed one as well. But our fan base, which is the same as all fan bases, explained that we did not need one because, after all,we are Florida.
 

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Just guessing here but FOOLEY decided hey we won championships in multiple sports that is all we need to attract recruits

When, in fact, he should have built up facilities to keep it going up and up, he chose instead to ride it out
 

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Of course he did. The bank offered 0.25% on our deposits.
 

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Of course, for these players, somewhere in our present facility's phys-therapy room, we better install some ice-filled bassinettes.
 

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We aren't getting into an arms race, period.

Probably the scariest words you could have heard from our AD at that point in time.

Foley did amazing things and horrible things. He mismanaged our goose that laid the golden eggs. He starved her. Make no mistake...Foley bears a huge amount of blame for the current state of our program.
 

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Probably the scariest words you could have heard from our AD at that point in time.

Foley did amazing things and horrible things. He mismanaged our goose that laid the golden eggs. He starved her. Make no mistake...Foley bears a huge amount of blame for the current state of our program.

Foley starved that goose for one reason only. Foley wanted to be a king maker. He wanted more of the praise he got for picking Donovan from Marshall after couple of ok seasons. So it was not bargain basement thinking or shopping, but rather an attempt to make Foley's name even bigger.

So when he actually had the power to hire a football coach, he went and got Zook, Muschamp and McElwain. If any of them had hit, he would be viewed as the greatest AD ever as he wants to be view. He wanted that type of coach. Had he been able to hire an established big name, he would have passed. What glory would such a hire bring to Foley?
 

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Foley starved that goose for one reason only. Foley wanted to be a king maker. He wanted more of the praise he got for picking Donovan from Marshall after couple of ok seasons. So it was not bargain basement thinking or shopping, but rather an attempt to make Foley's name even bigger.

So when he actually had the power to hire a football coach, he went and got Zook, Muschamp and McElwain. If any of them had hit, he would be viewed as the greatest AD ever as he wants to be view. He wanted that type of coach. Had he been able to hire an established big name, he would have passed. What glory would such a hire bring to Foley?

A few posters with insider knowledge have talked about the guys huge ego. At some point he wanted to be the BMOC. And that is the head football coaches job. A great AD you never hear about. They pull the strings behind the scenes. Foley wanted to be THE GUY. He wanted all the attention. Somewhere in the late 2000's he had outlived his usefulness. And the UAA let him destroy our beloved football program.
 

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And the UAA let him destroy our beloved football program.

The good news is he didn't and couldn't destroy UF football. He made it bad for a decade, but if Stricklin gets this hire right you will be shocked how quickly UF will be back competing with the best.
 

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The good news is he didn't and couldn't destroy UF football. He made it bad for a decade, but if Stricklin gets this hire right you will be shocked how quickly UF will be back competing with the best.

Semantics. Destroyed temporarily. I can get behind your post. Foley shouldn't get to slide on what has happened to the program.
 

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Semantics. Destroyed temporarily. I can get behind your post. Foley shouldn't get to slide on what has happened to the program.

I am just saying be optimistic about how quickly UF can be back. I have seen it before.

As far as Foley goes, I think that trio mentioned above have certainly done the damage to Foley's legacy that they should have. So he did not escape legacy wise his football coach hiring foolishness.
 

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