Todd McShay on UF job....

[Crunchtime]

While on ESPN's Championship Drive this evening....Todd McShay said something interesting about the UF coaching search. He first says that a lot of young coaches do not want to go to the SEC because of Saban and the pressure to win right away. He then references Scott Frost and said that he was a special circumstance because of Nebraska but coaches like him are not interested in the SEC. He then mentioned Chip Kelly and said Chip told UF no because of the same reasons....too much pressure and an unrealistic fan base. BUT THEN he said something interesting....he said "MULTIPLE" coaches told UF NO before that settled on Mullen. He says it almost in passing but I caught it and thought it was in direct conflict with what we have been told by SS and what Dooley wrote in the GS today. In essences, both SS and Dooley said that Chip was never offered the job and they were concerned with Frost desire to coach his team in their conference championship and bowl game. It appears that there were more options UF was looking into than what we have been led to believe and more than one told then "no thanks". Pay attention @ around the 30 second mark.

 

[SC Gator]

Mmm, ok

 

[GatorJ]

Tooley and SS could be full of shyt - BUT I don’t think McShay knows anything. So
Many guys thought they knew what was going on during this search and none of them were right.

 

[Pablos Tunnel]

Not buying what he is selling. Its all TV hyperbole. Im still in belief that SS had Mullen pegged day one and the whole affair with Kelly was just kicking the tires in case Mullen backed out.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

We do not have an unrealistic fan base. Our fans are exactly the same as everyone else.

 

[78]

So the field was vetted more than we thought. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Pablos Tunnel]

Sad that this is the new “normal” in sports/media. Wanna-bes throwing crap out on social media and obscure shows to try and get air time or clicks. ESPN/SEC network are part of the problem. They have huge ammounts of airtime to fill/sell that 90% is crap. McShay is just another self promoter.

 

[MJMGator]

Talking with agents and making offers are totally different things. I’m sure we reached out to numerous agents to gauge their clients’ interests before we wasted any time in talks.
We made inquiries, like we should have.

 

[bayou gator]

While I don't think any of this is necessarily far-fetched, I don't take ANYTHING that Tool McShay says as gospel. He is an ignorant charlatan, with little to no credibility, who somehow connived his way onto a television screen. He's the Jim McElwain of football analysts.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Not buying what he is selling. Its all TV hyperbole. Im still in belief that SS had Mullen pegged day one and the whole affair with Kelly was just kicking the tires in case Mullen backed out.

 

[diehardg8r]

Glad they aren't physicians talking to patients about their cancer or how their back surgery is going to go.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Damn! I wish we were in a non-competitve conference and had more low effort, chicken shyt coaches to pick from.

 

[Pablos Tunnel]

Damn! I wish we were in a non-competitve conference and had more low effort, chicken shyt coaches to pick from.

and crappy ACC fans that are fair weather

 

[bayou gator]

I also watched it live and it caught me by surprise too. I also read Dooley's article which seemed to indicate the opposite of what Mcshay said. But I don't necessarily buy Mcshay's premise. He referenced UF and seemed to indicate lack of ability to land good coaches. But UF is a bad example because Mullen was probably the best man for the job considering he has sec experience and UF history. (although maybe not a big-name). But Look at Clay Helton at USC that was far from a big name hire, but he seems to be a solid coach there. Does that mean USC is not as good a job anymore?

No, not at all. USC chose Helton because they needed stability more than anything else; after the combined fiascos of Carroll, NCAA infractions, Kiffin, Orgeron, and Sarkisian. Helton had been in the program for some time by then, without a ton of baggage, and had an understanding of the pulse of the program and what was needed. Was he quite ready for it? Perhaps not, but he has done a decent job of growing along the way. Overall, the team is still very young, and he may actually grow into a damn good coach... the jury's still out on that one. However, if Darnold comes back next year, he will have the team to beat.

Fun fact: Helton was actually born in Gainesville, and his dad was a GA for the Gators.

 

[divits]

McShay is full of more $h!t than a Chinese outhouse.

 

[rogdochar]

Tooley and SS could be full of shyt - BUT I don’t think McShay knows anything. So
Many guys thought they knew what was going on during this search and none of them were right.

After several pundits pitched their knowing the "done-deal" on Kelly time & time again wrong, several GChatter guys said that they would come out with "after-the-fact" facts reclaiming their inside info prowess. And here it begins.

 

[Marine1]

The entire search exposed the “insiders”, “sources”, analysts and experts. Everybody was guessing and some were down right making sh*t up.

Now...what purpose does it serve SS to be completely transparent about who he spoke to....who reached out to him....and what exactly they discussed? It literally would be more destructive than constructive.

Agents or other coaches leaking info that they were involved in a conversation with UF benefits THEM and provides leverage to them. Leverage rules in negotiations.

We can argue all day long about whether SS landed the right coach. But from this day forward I hope SS goes full AD-speak and supports his coach and says nothing other than Dan was his man from the jump and convinces the players and recruits of this. This is insider stuff for decisionmakers and what’s discussed in the corporate boardroom is not always for wide dissemination to every frat boy on campus.

This ain’t Tennessee.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Damn! I wish we were in a non-competitve conference and had more low effort, chicken shyt coaches to pick from.

 

[alcoholica]

SS, Fat Dooley, McShay are all full of it. I could be way off base, but this is what I think happened. UF planned to send out literally 2-3 dozen feelers. Who's interested and who's a flat no. Some were received unsolicited and the rest were solicited. I think Chip Kelly's agent contacted UF to see if UF had interest. When UF said yes, it was an opportunity to leverage against a job that Kelly actually wanted. I think Kelly played us, end of story. Scott Frost was then contacted, which means he had initially had interest in UF, but by the time UF put the press on it was too late, and perhaps Frost never wanted an SEC job. Mullen was third, and was probably the original #2 candidate before Kelly called. The rumors about Gundy were probably just his agent trying to get him a raise, which happened through the UT opening. We got our backup or at best 1b candidate. We also got the best coach who actually wanted to be here. In a weird way, I'm glad we got Mullen, because at least he wants to be here, and he's not a bad coach. We got our hopes up and that makes the hire worse than it is. He'll have an opportunity to be an elite coach at UF if he's capable. If not, we'll try again in a few years, but I think we'll make bowl games and probably never fall below 9 wins once he gets rolling with his recruits and his roster.