The National Signing Day Thread

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Percy was gone and his 9 yds per carry.

That’s a part of it, no question. But to completely discount the Mullen to Daz step down is an argument that is equally as flawed. Ftr, I’m not saying that’s your position. Just pointing that out.

But the part about Mullen’s first two years implementing a new system with wrong-fit players being less than stellar, then narrowing down his good years to the next two where he had his players, just screams “I hate the hire and nothing will convince me otherwise”. Especially considering much of the same cast were terrible in the year(s) that followed. Seriously, it’s ridiculous.

And yes people complained a lot, even during the good years. But what can’t be overlooked is that most fans still correlate success with throwing all over the field and scoring 50 every game. Add in that basically all of our local UF commentary is from influential people who played during that time and refuse to believe or accept that any other type of play is good, and you’ve got “Jimmy Gator” walking around complaining that we need something different. Many of whom were thrilled to see us bring in Muschamp and his more traditional offense.
 

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I’m glad he liked it , but it don’t mean Shyte unless he commits

I really hope we don’t see a repeat of 2014-15 when all of these silents, or huge leans kept playing the game all the way to NSD, when they could’ve seriously swung some momentum our way by announcing earlier. I get that kids want a stage, but they also should keep in mind that they’ll only go as far as the team they’re on. Seeing guys watch our class hover in the 80s, knowing they could help, was infuriating.
 

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I know you've heard a lot of talk about coaching around here lately, but don't be fooled. At the root, it's still all about the players. You can have a solid program all you want, but if you don't have top end talent you'll never win. It's why recruiting is so important. Saban wouldn't be the GOAT if he only recruited 3*s.

Here is the way it is:

1. You can get into the top 25 or so with recruiting.

2. It takes coaching to get you into the top 5 or maybe top 10.

3. It takes luck to win it all, you have to sign Wuerffel not Kannell coming out of high school when you really don't know which one will be better. (Or politics as in the case of the alleged GOAT at UAL, you have to lobby yourself into the playoff TWICE without winning your division.)

Also on the WR issue, the recruiting of WRs is generally not that important. There are plenty of 6' plus or minus guys who can run a 4.4ish 40 and catch the ball. UF will always have WRs on the roster. The issue is can the coach put them in a position to contribute. The last two staffs at UF could not. We shall see about the new staff.
 

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Outside the first series of championship game, yes. I even thought offense was boring in 08.

It was until around mid season. But we also had lost our TE in camp(probably our second most dynamic player) and were hugely disappointed by Moody, needing true freshman Demps to provide a spark. The whole team was lethargic at first. Even the OM loss, which is remembered for the fumbles and 4th down stop, was more about our secondary getting torched.
 

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It would be a mistake to think that most posters on this site are about winning. No, what matters here are "style points". After we lost Kelly and Frost, we could still have had Strong who would have won NCs. But style points are more important.

An NC with strong as head coach ? Please. Give me some of what you are smoking.
 

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Can we change the name of this thread to "Huggins commits to UF, Dean to decide and sign on December 20th"

We had a good weekend. We locked down Huggins, a taller defensive back then what we already have on scholarship (6'2). David Reese was already committed, but he reaffirmed and I don't know for sure but I think he's enrolling early. We really impressed Emory Jones and we have the best available playing time to offer him, so he's gotta be thinking a lot about flipping to us. He's an early enrollee so we will hear news on him very soon. I'm not worried about FSU. Mullen and Johnson have a long standing relationship with Jones and he seems like he doesn't want to go to Ohio State at this point (look at him scheduling visits literally two days before he signs). We made a lasting impression on Trey Dean, another tall DB who could help us immediately in that defensive backfield. So potentially, we could go three for three on Huggins, Jones, and Dean. That's a successful weekend and a pretty stellar finish to a rough start for Mullen in this recruiting class.

If he pulls Jones, I'm really only interested in what Malik Heath, Stephen Guidry, and Jacob Copeland do. Copeland won't be blocking here. He's too much of a playmaker. Heath seems the most likely of the MSU guys, I've read Guidry probably won't qualify.
 

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Can we change the name of this thread to "Huggins commits to UF, Dean to decide and sign on December 20th"

We had a good weekend. We locked down Huggins, a taller defensive back then what we already have on scholarship (6'2). David Reese was already committed, but he reaffirmed and I don't know for sure but I think he's enrolling early. We really impressed Emory Jones and we have the best available playing time to offer him, so he's gotta be thinking a lot about flipping to us. He's an early enrollee so we will hear news on him very soon. I'm not worried about FSU. Mullen and Johnson have a long standing relationship with Jones and he seems like he doesn't want to go to Ohio State at this point (look at him scheduling visits literally two days before he signs). We made a lasting impression on Trey Dean, another tall DB who could help us immediately in that defensive backfield. So potentially, we could go three for three on Huggins, Jones, and Dean. That's a successful weekend and a pretty stellar finish to a rough start for Mullen in this recruiting class.

If he pulls Jones, I'm really only interested in what Malik Heath, Stephen Guidry, and Jacob Copeland do. Copeland won't be blocking here. He's too much of a playmaker. Heath seems the most likely of the MSU guys, I've read Guidry probably won't qualify.

Mullen was the first coach to offer jones back in 05.
 

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Word is Jones didnt stay long at FSU, hopefully we can get him with Dean this week and keep it rolling
 

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Respect your knowledge, Law, but my memory of Leak is the Auburn game, where his attempt to pass was so ineffectual that it was ruled a fumble. And he was in the pocket.
Yeah, after running 46 option plays.

You can rip on Leak all you want, but SOS would have scored 60 with him. He is STILL the career passing leader after serving under two retarded OCs.
 

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We could win every game 14-10 and id be happy as hell. Only tards complain about the manner in which you won. Winning is winning, Period
Yeah, the problem with winning 14-10 coin toss games is that the next year the odds catch up with you and you go 4-8 losing a lot of 10-14 coin toss games. But, heh, if you are one of the few people in the country that misses Bob Davies' veer option, good for you! It's back.
 

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Yeah, the problem with winning 14-10 coin toss games is that the next year the odds catch up with you and you go 4-8 losing a lot of 10-14 coin toss games.

Exactly and another problem is that it only takes one breakdown to lose. If you are up 42 to 10 and you have a late defensive breakdown you win 42 to 17 and it is no big deal. If you are up 14 to 10 and a DB slips down, you lose.
 

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Exactly and another problem is that it only takes one breakdown to lose. If you are up 42 to 10 and you have a late defensive breakdown you win 42 to 17 and it is no big deal. If you are up 14 to 10 and a DB slips down, you lose.
I don't know why this is option to all these fvkking coaches. Truth is we were GD lucky to be 4-8 this year. We needed two DB slips to get those 4 wins.
 

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Word is Jones didnt stay long at FSU, hopefully we can get him with Dean this week and keep it rolling
We could really use him. Here's hoping he understands the concept of freezing weather and doesn't really want to spend four years of his life in a midwestern hell hole surrounded by fat pasty women wearing XXL sweatpants and 3XL sweaters.
 

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