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He threw for 87 TDS and 17 INTs in HS. Without a QB coach. Talent is there. Will he work for it? That’s the question.
I hear he's a hard worker, knows how to grind. Driskell was a five-star, all world in high school too. I think Franks played in a small school division, meaning the competition was weak.
 

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I hear he's a hard worker, knows how to grind. Driskell was a five-star, all world in high school too. I think Franks played in a small school division, meaning the competition was weak.

Driskel threw for 31 TDs and 13 INTs in his HS career. He was a camp darling.
 

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He threw for 87 TDS and 17 INTs in HS. Without a QB coach. Talent is there. Will he work for it? That’s the question.
But how many of those TD's were just thrown up for grabs to that stud receiver that went to fsu? I think he's a good but i don't see him ever panning out.
 

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Driskel threw for 31 TDs and 13 INTs in his HS career. He was a camp darling.
Didnt' know that. I thought he was top gun outta high school. Personally, I thought the other kid, Jacoby Brissett was better. He had that "it" factor. Stupid Muschamp, cost him his chance at greatness at UF.
 

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Didnt' know that. I thought he was top gun outta high school. Personally, I thought the other kid, Jacoby Brissett was better. He had that "it" factor. Stupid Muschamp, cost him his chance at greatness at UF.

Brissett took a long time to make decisions, too, but was more accurate and less prone to sacks. I’m not sure that given the dearth of offensive talent recruited in ‘08-‘10 things would have been that much better and maybe worse in the short run, but long term he might have attracted better recruits.

Given that Mac & Nuss are bad coaches with a lousy scheme and poor position coaching, it’s too early for me to know how Franks will respond to good coaching, a scheme that better suits his talent and a better position coach. Kids can grow a lot in year 2.

The baby giraffe may grow up. Or not. (Those of you doubting he will may well be right.)
 

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Brissett took a long time to make decisions, too, but was more accurate and less prone to sacks. I’m not sure that given the dearth of offensive talent recruited in ‘08-‘10 things would have been that much better and maybe worse in the short run, but long term he might have attracted better recruits.

Given that Mac & Nuss are bad coaches with a lousy scheme and poor position coaching, it’s too early for me to know how Franks will respond to good coaching, a scheme that better suits his talent and a better position coach. Kids can grow a lot in year 2.

The baby giraffe may grow up. Or not. (Those of you doubting he will may well be right.)

This why a staff should alternate 4 and 5* QBs every year when recruiting. Some just aren’t going to pan out.

Ala Brock Berlin, Brantley, Newton, Grier, etc
 

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To even further refute your mouth diarrhea, Rivals includes a number that measures the quality of recruits (i.e. a 4* prospect can have a value ranging from 6.0-5.8, meaning not all 4*s aren't created equal). If you sort the ranking based off of this average value (with UFs 18 commits), Florida is ranked 7th, ahead of OU, FSU, Miami, etc. This means that rivals believes we are 7th ranked in terms of the quality of our recruits, not including transfers I might add. Oregon and UCLA, who you claim that "we are worse than" are ranked 18th and 26th, respectively, in terms of quality of their recruits.

I'll hang up and listen to your rebuttal. I'm sure it will be full of emojis.
Records and rankings are exactly what they say you are....if everyone else is ranked by the same standard.....Right??? Now what was your argument again??
 

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I have to partially disagree with this. There was not a single quarterback that looked good under Butters. Grier has flashes but also a ton garbage.

I am curious if Felipe’s failures last year have more to do with an oh crap I don’t know what to do lack of confidence or if he was afraid to make decisions. Two very different things.

Watching his film and comparing to what Mullen’s qbs have done I think we may see a completely different Filipe this year. Or I could 100% wrong and the kid plays scared and we keep putting people in until we find someone who can deal.

That's an awful lot of wishful thinking. I hope you're 100% right. However, I've said this before and hope I'm wrong down the road - but I think the kid is uncoachable. He does things that no QB, even one coached by a Nussmeir or McElwain, should do. Such as run toward the sidelines and run out of bounds vs. throwing the ball out of bounds to avoid a sack, thus taking the 8 yard loss on the play. This is something ANYONE who plays QB knows and doesn't need to be told or "coached up", it's instincts....instincts he doesn't have. He makes poor decision after poor decision. How much of that can Dan Mullen and Brian Johnson fix? I have no idea, but the kid seems uncoachable and if he wins the starting job (imo) we're in for a long, frustrating year. Again, I hope you are right and I am wrong...

BTW, how much longer is this Crete pissing contest going to continue? We're at almost 400 pages!
 

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BTW, how much longer is this Crete pissing contest going to continue? We're at almost 400 pages!

You can continue it here or start a new thread, but as long as Crete and anyone else posts it will be somewhere.... This is GatorChatter!!
 

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I think Jones will be the starter next year. Yeah I'm sure franks and idk who else will be in the competition. But this offense is made for a QB like Emory Jones. We have a very experienced offensive line and plenty of runningbacks. We should be able to lean on our running game. I personally hope Toney gets another look at qb this spring.
 

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Morris, Dean, Sablehuase (s)...
Brantley was the best QB of the decade easily, statistically, more yards in a season than any of the others had in their careers, and Dean would have been. Berlin was solid and better than them, he just lost the starting battle and left.
 

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No, he wasnt. That was a GSMB fairy tail. His HS tape is the same, mostly just runs the ball. Pretty sure he wasnt all county much less all state.
He was the Gatorade Player of the Year in Florida and the Maxwell Football Club National Player of the Year.
 

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Brissett took a long time to make decisions, too, but was more accurate and less prone to sacks. I’m not sure that given the dearth of offensive talent recruited in ‘08-‘10 things would have been that much better and maybe worse in the short run, but long term he might have attracted better recruits.

Given that Mac & Nuss are bad coaches with a lousy scheme and poor position coaching, it’s too early for me to know how Franks will respond to good coaching, a scheme that better suits his talent and a better position coach. Kids can grow a lot in year 2.

The baby giraffe may grow up. Or not. (Those of you doubting he will may well be right.)

Disagree on Brissett. He had a real solid college career and was a good decision maker. He was not prone to sacks or interceptions. He was also a very effective runner despite his size. I used to try to explain back in the day that this kid was an outstanding point guard (!) on a state championship team in high school. He was used to leading, directing and making decisions. Somehow his poise and composure became ridiculed on message boards and became a running joke. He was Muschamp’s worst decision in my opinion. He won the starting job....took the first snap of the first game and then sat nearly every game thereafter until getting a start late in the season against Jax State and playing poorly. He was then written off as a QB much like Cam Newton after a poor O&B performance. I said back then that you could mark my words that Jacoby would have a 15 year NFL career.
 

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Driskel was not a 5*, quit calling him one.

Franks will likely start. He is taking on a major leadership role this offseason. I never thought he could, but those are the reports. If he is willing to buy in, he might turn out to be serviceable if he wasn’t completely ruined. I have never been a Franks fan, but if the reports are true, it’ll be hard not to give him a shot unless he is just that bad.
 

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Driskel was not a 5*, quit calling him one.

Franks will likely start. He is taking on a major leadership role this offseason. I never thought he could, but those are the reports. If he is willing to buy in, he might turn out to be serviceable if he wasn’t completely ruined. I have never been a Franks fan, but if the reports are true, it’ll be hard not to give him a shot unless he is just that bad.
I think be willing to make an avi bet that franks doesn't start. I'll wait until after the spring game though. I just cant remember ever seeing a qb play that bad and turning it around.
 

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He was the.....
Funny what 36 TDs in 4 years will get you these days.

He wasnt even the best QB in his. Ask Bortles.

Creyer had so much influence over the services back then.
 

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Disagree on Brissett. He had a real solid college career and was a good decision maker. He was not prone to sacks or interceptions. He was also a very effective runner despite his size. I used to try to explain back in the day that this kid was an outstanding point guard (!) on a state championship team in high school. He was used to leading, directing and making decisions. Somehow his poise and composure became ridiculed on message boards and became a running joke. He was Muschamp’s worst decision in my opinion. He won the starting job....took the first snap of the first game and then sat nearly every game thereafter until getting a start late in the season against Jax State and playing poorly. He was then written off as a QB much like Cam Newton after a poor O&B performance. I said back then that you could mark my words that Jacoby would have a 15 year NFL career.

I don’t think you and I disagree on him. He did take a long time to make decisions early on but I also said above he wasn’t prone to sacks. The fact is he didn’t have much of an offense to work with. I kept up with him at NC State and am glad he’s making a living on Sundays. I’m a fan.
 

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