Florida blows first game of SEC Tournament to Arkansas

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I made the statement that the line in the sand continues to move. You're just making my point.

I never said the SECT matters except that it did till we lost. Hell, with your argument, the regular season doesn't matter either and, well, that's true.
That's true also, except you can't get in the NCAAT without winning enough in the regular season. Like it or not, fair or not, the success or failure of this season will be determined in the next couple of weeks. For some fans he has already succeeded just getting in to the dance. But coming off an elite 8 run and a top 10 preseason ranking, for me, like I mentioned, it's 2 wins or bust.
 

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it's 2 wins or bust.

I guess I am sort of with you. The way you build and continue to build a basketball tradition is 20 wins and a bid year after year after year after year after. You need a run in the tourney every few years, but sometimes years that won't happen. I do tend to agree this group needs a win or two after the way they muddle through the season.
 
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You are NOT going to be Sweet 16 EVERY year. No team has EVER done that. You are going to go through tough stretches and lean years. There is always going to be player turnover so teams like we had that went to 3 ELITE 8s and a Final 4 are once in a generation like the 04s with their Back 2 Back. No team has done it since and it is very hard to come by. We have to be a program that gets 20+ wins every year and into the NCAA Tourney just about every year. Billy D did it for the most part. Mike White is 2 out of 3 years in the NCAA Tourney so we will see what happens in the future...
 

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I am not that upset the team lost this game. This team has been consistently playing about 3 or 4 good games before dropping at least 1. I'd prefer they drop that 1 in the SEC tourney and get re-focused for the NCAA.

If they can get one of their 2 game hot streaks going they can make the sweet 16. At a minimum I hope they get past round 1.
 

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You are NOT going to be Sweet 16 EVERY year. No team has EVER done that. You are going to go through tough stretches and lean years. There is always going to be player turnover so teams like we had that went to 3 ELITE 8s and a Final 4 are once in a generation like the 04s with their Back 2 Back. No team has done it since and it is very hard to come by. We have to be a program that gets 20+ wins every year and into the NCAA Tourney just about every year. Billy D did it for the most part. Mike White is 2 out of 3 years in the NCAA Tourney so we will see what happens in the future...
That is true for most teams, but actually we have been surprisingly consistent in avoiding early exits and typically make deep runs when we get in the tournament.

I've shown this before but it's worth repeating. We are 4TH all time in NCAA tournament winning percentage. That's better than Kentucky, Kansas, Mich State, Connecticut, etc.

School Conference Games Wins Losses Winning pct.
Duke ACC 146 109 37 .747
North Carolina ACC 168 123 45 .732
UCLA* Pac-12 147 106 41 .721
Florida* SEC 67 48 19 .716
 

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That is true for most teams, but actually we have been surprisingly consistent in avoiding early exits and typically make deep runs when we get in the tournament.

I've shown this before but it's worth repeating. We are 4TH all time in NCAA tournament winning percentage. That's better than Kentucky, Kansas, Mich State, Connecticut, etc.

School Conference Games Wins Losses Winning pct.
Duke ACC 146 109 37 .747
North Carolina ACC 168 123 45 .732
UCLA* Pac-12 147 106 41 .721
Florida* SEC 67 48 19 .716

And that includes the five year stretch from 2001 to 2005 where UF failed to get out of the first weekend. That again underlines how hard it is to have a run in the tourney every year.

UF has had an excellent run since 1994 and and an unbelievable run since 2006 of making it to the round of 8 six times in twelve years. Even more amazing in 4 of the 6 years UF did not make the round of 8, UF did not make the tourney so 6 out of the last 8 times UF has made the NCAAs they have made it to at least the round of 8.
 
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I made the statement that the line in the sand continues to move. You're just making my point.

I never said the SECT matters except that it did till we lost. Hell, with your argument, the regular season doesn't matter either and, well, that's true.
Nobody remembers a conference champion in basketball or baseball anymore, many coaches would just as soon rest the team. If we're not careful the same will happen to football.
 

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And that includes the five year stretch from 2001 to 2005 where UF failed to get out of the first weekend. That again underlines how hard it is to have a run in the tourney every year.

UF has had an excellent run since 1994 and and an unbelievable run since 2006 of making it to the round of 8 six times in twelve years. Even more amazing in 4 of the 6 years UF did not make the round of 8, UF did not make the tourney.
Yeah, I remember that run when we had the early exits and people were really questioning BD, but the rest was history. I have to admit an early exit this year wouldn't surprise me or anyone, but we have talent and I'm obviously hoping our recent amazing tournament success continues.
 

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Earlier in the season we did not have Stone as a valid 15-20 point scorer. Now Egor needs to settle down, square up and score 15-20. Hudson needs to get his rhythm and also score 15+. Maybe Allen could hit a few.?? If Allen has lost his touch, then give Okouru the green light. Hayes needs to reappear -- do something? Coach White needs to strongly show dissatisfaction and thus coach them & himself into satisfactory performances.
 

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Earlier in the season we did not have Stone as a valid 15-20 point scorer. Now Egor needs to settle down, square up and score 15-20. Hudson needs to get his rhythm and also score 15+. Maybe Allen could hit a few.?? If Allen has lost his touch, then give Okouru the green light. Hayes needs to reappear -- do something? Coach White needs to strongly show dissatisfaction and thus coach them & himself into satisfactory performances.
I think Egor gets physically beat up and tired playing PF, then his form and touch become a little bit off over the course of the game.
 

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You are NOT going to be Sweet 16 EVERY year. No team has EVER done that. You are going to go through tough stretches and lean years. There is always going to be player turnover so teams like we had that went to 3 ELITE 8s and a Final 4 are once in a generation like the 04s with their Back 2 Back. No team has done it since and it is very hard to come by. We have to be a program that gets 20+ wins every year and into the NCAA Tourney just about every year. Billy D did it for the most part. Mike White is 2 out of 3 years in the NCAA Tourney so we will see what happens in the future...

North Carolina made 13 straight Sweet 16s from 1981 -1993 and 9 of the last 13 Sweet 16s since 2005.

Duke has made like 15 of the last 20 Sweet 16s.

Mike White needs to strive for Sweet 16 numbers like that in the coming years and some Championships will be heading our way again.
 
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We’ve made the Elite 8 or better in seven of our last eight appearances in the tournament. Granted, there were three NIT years and one losing record mixed in there, but we’ve grown so accustomed to advancing and advancing far over the last decade or so. We forget there was a stretch there where Billy F-ing Donovan couldn’t sniff the second weekend.
 

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I think Egor gets physically beat up and tired playing PF, then his form and touch become a little bit off over the course of the game.

If UF isn't the correct fit for Egor, did White mislead him in his recruiting offering ?
I agree that Egor's game gets off-balanced in banging with bigger guys ... so could he be a 20-point/game scorer if White played him at shooting guard, placing Stone and Gak in Egor's forward position. Egor was not banged around in our first game and his shooting form was ideal = 34 points. I sure miss that "can't-miss" 3gor.
 

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We would have been NCs if we just had Eggy. The greatest basketball player in history Ive heard.

And if we had hit our shots. We just have to hit our shots.
 

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Yeah EVEN the "blue blood" basketball schools with their 5 star players don't make it EVERY year.
 

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Getting to 20 wins and making the tournament is not that great of a deal. when over a 3rd of your schedule Is against average or worse teams 20 wins isn't a sign of success. Making the elite 8,final 4, or winning the NC should be the standard anything else is a moral victory. I'm not the least bit surprised jboss is ok with moral victories.
 

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