Will We Know by the End of September

What will be Florida's record in September?


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InstiGATOR1

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That wouldn’t be a dumb question. That would be an intelligent question.

Using your runway example (Seabees don’t do pontoon bridging - confusing us with ESB), a dumb question would be me asking my guys what minimum time would be required to successfully complete an assigned runway repair if we ignored whatever critical vulnerabilities we couldn’t overcome with current manning, training, or equipment knowing that I would have to brief that time to higher as a baseline. See the difference?

There really is no difference between your two questions IF the questioner does not know. In fact both of your questions are quite legit depending on the situation. In training where one does not have a complete problem one may well ask what you consider a dumb question. In training one might only ask parts of the second question to see what the trainees know.

In the field one who does not yet fully understand the the full nature of the problem, your dumb question is not dumb either. Even to you the question you consider incomplete is not dumb is your commanding officer want to make sure you on your game and considering all aspects without him prompting you.

So again no question is dumb, at least no sincere question is. In the particular case, I did not know what the complainers about the roster considered the problems, so I asked. That was not a dumb question. That was and is a question to flesh out what various people here think about the roster.

The not considering the QB aspect of it was to focus the issue. It was my view maybe that everyone broadly speaking thinks QB is a problem. The way to identify views of other weaknesses was to concede the QB issue up front and ask people not to list that as a weakness. There were at the time scores of thread discussing the QB roster issues. I did not want to start that thread again, I wanted to hear about other concerns people had.

Just as if I wanted to see if a seabee knew what the runway should take and not get a complaint-fest about how under manned the unit is. Questions have different goals.
 

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There really is no difference between your two questions IF the questioner does not know. In fact both of your questions are quite legit depending on the situation. In training where one does not have a complete problem one may well ask what you consider a dumb question. In training one might only ask parts of the second question to see what the trainees know.

In the field one who does not yet fully understand the the full nature of the problem, your dumb question is not dumb either. Even to you the question you consider incomplete is not dumb is your commanding officer want to make sure you on your game and considering all aspects without him prompting you.

So again no question is dumb, at least no sincere question is. In the particular case, I did not know what the complainers about the roster considered the problems, so I asked. That was not a dumb question. That was and is a question to flesh out what various people here think about the roster.

The not considering the QB aspect of it was to focus the issue. It was my view maybe that everyone broadly speaking thinks QB is a problem. The way to identify views of other weaknesses was to concede the QB issue up front and ask people not to list that as a weakness. There were at the time scores of thread discussing the QB roster issues. I did not want to start that thread again, I wanted to hear about other concerns people had.

Just as if I wanted to see if a seabee knew what the runway should take and not get a complaint-fest about how under manned the unit is. Questions have different goals.
Sigh... maybe if I type slower it’ll be easier to process. There absolutely is a difference. A critical vulnerability isn’t Seabees bitching - it’s a known weakness that degraded readiness and/or mission capability. If I’m giving my commander an estimate on execution, it would be ridiculous to do so while ignoring something that important.

Specific to your question in the other thread: you ask us to consider the entire roster - except QB - and explain which position group holds us back from a 10 win season. Later you state that you think 10 wins could be obtained by most coaches and less than 10 is a failure. That’s dumb. You’re ignoring the most important critical vulnerability to reaching 10 wins but you’ve also established that 9 or less wins is the baseline for failure. You can’t fairy dust in a competent qb to establish a baseline - you have to consider the whole picture.
 

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Sigh... maybe if I type slower it’ll be easier to process. There absolutely is a difference. A critical vulnerability isn’t Seabees *****ing - it’s a known weakness that degraded readiness and/or mission capability. If I’m giving my commander an estimate on execution, it would be ridiculous to do so while ignoring something that important.

Specific to your question in the other thread: you ask us to consider the entire roster - except QB - and explain which position group holds us back from a 10 win season. Later you state that you think 10 wins could be obtained by most coaches and less than 10 is a failure. That’s dumb. You’re ignoring the most important critical vulnerability to reaching 10 wins but you’ve also established that 9 or less wins is the baseline for failure. You can’t fairy dust in a competent qb to establish a baseline - you have to consider the whole picture.

Call in the Marines....we’ll let someone else ask the questions questions later.
 

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yeah ok.

So why was he 11-23 with no TDs zero yards rushing---even as Mullins was on the sideline saying he needs a willing runner to run our offense-- playing against our walkons?

Some of you sound just as stupid this year claiming the the fourth Stringer must better.
You said the same thing last year, that we d have a great offense once LDR was replaced by (the obviously not ready) Franks.

And you said the same thing the year before, once LDR replaces Treon we are golden.

Just keep wishing and deluding yourselves.

Does it ever get old?
Well, at least we can all sleep soundly knowing that you'll be right there yelling "I told you so!" with every failed first down.
 

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We win by 20+. Since it’s obvious you won’t even be watching the game, I’ll let you know how it turns out.
There's not a chance in hell this happens right now. We can barely beat vandy and you expect this staff to beat MSU? :bwahaha:

Have you seen their DL? Franks is going to be crushed. If anyone wins by 20+ it's MSU. We don't have the talent to beat anyone of note that bad. Hell our talent level is on par with Tenn.
 

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There's not a chance in hell this happens right now. We can barely beat vandy and you expect this staff to beat MSU? :bwahaha:

Have you seen their DL? Franks is going to be crushed. If anyone wins by 20+ it's MSU. We don't have the talent to beat anyone of note that bad. Hell our talent level is on par with Tenn.
Okay, now I say we win by 30+.
 

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My concern about the Miss St game is that its in Starkville. UF has only won twice in Starkville in my lifetime: 1985 and 2009. Since 1985 we are 2-4 playing in Starkville, and there isn't a big talent gap this year. To me that's a tougher game than LSU.
 

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Well, at least we can all sleep soundly knowing that you'll be right there yelling "I told you so!" with every failed first down.
Come on, I'd be bored with that at the end of the first quarter.

You know I have add.
 

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Call in the Marines....we’ll let someone else ask the questions questions later.
Rah, yut, etc. We’d be there supporting you and would find a way to overcome whatever the issue is. Just wouldn’t ignore it.
 

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Look at UF's September schedule this year:

1 Sept: Charleston So.
8 Sept: UK
15 Sept: Co. State
22 Sept: at UTn
29 Sept: at Miss State

So UF almost half, 5/12th, of UF season will be over in September. Not only might we know a lot about Mullen's tenure at UF when September goes into October, the two road games in late September may really determine the season.

Everyone will be worried if UF loses any of the first 3 games. Many people have UF losing one or both of the late September road games. If UF comes out of September 4-1, I think many people will be optimistic. If UF comes out of September 3-2, I think people will be worried. If UF comes out of September any worse than 3-2, I think the fan base will already begin to turn. That two game road trip is crucially important for this team and for Mullen's start at UF.

Toss in a home game against LSU the first week of and the season is half gone by 7 October. If UF is anything worse than 4-2 at that point, it will be ugly around here.
Damn , thats a lot of games in one month
 

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There is that truly unknowable factor, being that Mullen is not taking over kids that were coached/developed by your typical semi-decent HC-staff. Slackelwain mistrained players offer some chance for miracle workings. Hope, hope.
 

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yeah ok.

So why was he 11-23 with no TDs zero yards rushing---even as Mullins was on the sideline saying he needs a willing runner to run our offense-- playing against our walkons?

Some of you sound just as stupid this year claiming the the fourth Stringer must better.
You said the same thing last year, that we d have a great offense once LDR was replaced by (the obviously not ready) Franks.

And you said the same thing the year before, once LDR replaces Treon we are golden.

Just keep wishing and deluding yourselves.

Does it ever get old?
Maybe your on the wrong board!!! Maybe you should try free shoe u
 

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yeah ok.

So why was he 11-23 with no TDs zero yards rushing---even as Mullins was on the sideline saying he needs a willing runner to run our offense-- playing against our walkons?

Some of you sound just as stupid this year claiming the the fourth Stringer must better.
You said the same thing last year, that we d have a great offense once LDR was replaced by (the obviously not ready) Franks.

And you said the same thing the year before, once LDR replaces Treon we are golden.

Just keep wishing and deluding yourselves.

Does it ever get old?
No it never gets old I'm a Gators fan which I thought everyone here was? I see UF should have hired you as the head coach you seem to have the whole thing figured out!!! We could have used your VAST football mind to solve all our problems and been winning N/C's for years!!! Wow how in the
h$ll did they not find you before they hired Butters or Nutchamp???? Yes all the punctuations are just for you also!!!!!
 

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Maybe we will know by the beginning of September.

What do you guys think now?

1-4 in Sept or 2-3?
 

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Maybe we will know by the beginning of September.

What do you guys think now?

1-4 in Sept or 2-3?

Exactly that we would know by the end of September did not preclude a loss to Charleston Southern in which case we would have known the first day of September. To again paraphrase the late great Dennis Green, this week he was who we though he was.
 

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