Who'd a thunk 5-1?

How would you grade the Gators performance?

  • A

    Votes: 79 50.3%
  • B

    Votes: 76 48.4%
  • C

    Votes: 2 1.3%

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Probably not the right thread, but I’d love to hear the explanation for the offsetting fouls late in the 4th. Total joke of a call from what I witnessed.

I agree 100% based on the replay they showed in the stadium. But I'm actually glad they called it that way, because it meant we earned this victory. Without them blowing that call, we wouldn't have had the pick 6.
 

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Okay, '78 has had his fair share of abuse, now it's my turn. I gave them an A because of the importance of this win to our near-term prospects, and it's substantiation of my belief that real progress is being made in rebuilding the program. Viewed in a vacuum, the LSU win was a solid B - viewed in context, it was a resounding victory that could well set the tone for a quicker than expected return to basic respectability. And while I'm at it, IMO, comparing CDM to his predecessors is totally ludicrous. One had never been a HC and may very well never become one. The other was a marginal candidate at best, plucked from a mediocre program in a third-rate conference, by what was arguably the worst FB AD in major CFB history.

I understand that the CDM era has just begun and that things could go south at anytime. I understand that many, including myself, were so happy to see Muschamp go that we welcomed McElwain with open arms. I myself was on board until witnessing the manner in which he bungled the Will Grier fiasco, and the abject collapse at the end of that first season. As others have hammered home on many occasions, the two divisional championships were the result of the total ineptitude of the entire eastern division, and not indicative of any real achievement by the Shriner's Clown parade that masqueraded as our coaching staff prior to the coming of CDM. Dan Mullen is not Jim McElwain, he is also not Will Muschamp. Exactly who CDM turns out to be is still TBD. But whoever he is, it sure as hell isn't either of the afore mentioned disasters foisted off on us by the biggest disaster of them all - Jeremy Foley. And for that, I am most heartily grateful. Fire when ready.

Fire for what? You are dead on.
 

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Not even me, who posted this little gem in another thread, in wake of Kentucky debacle, which garnered me 3 frosty beer mugs (...delicious btw....thx fellas...side note: imho, the beer mug shoild mean 'cheers', not drunk--but then, im a proud Kavanaugh kinda guy...i digress...):


8-4.

We should beat CSU, Tenn., Missy, Vandy, Mizzou, Scar, Idaho, and FSU.

That's 9 games, with a margin of error of 1.

Only LSU and UGA should beat us.

(Now if the Gators play, and the coaches call plays, like Sat. v. UK--then we oughtn't win another game the rest of the year--I'm just not ready to define the team by one spectacularly disastrous outing--I don't believe that's who this team is).

jmho/fwiw.

Just sayn.

Cheers!
 

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Okay, '78 has had his fair share of abuse, now it's my turn. I gave them an A because of the importance of this win to our near-term prospects, and it's substantiation of my belief that real progress is being made in rebuilding the program. Viewed in a vacuum, the LSU win was a solid B - viewed in context, it was a resounding victory that could well set the tone for a quicker than expected return to basic respectability. And while I'm at it, IMO, comparing CDM to his predecessors is totally ludicrous. One had never been a HC and may very well never become one. The other was a marginal candidate at best, plucked from a mediocre program in a third-rate conference, by what was arguably the worst FB AD in major CFB history.

I understand that the CDM era has just begun and that things could go south at anytime. I understand that many, including myself, were so happy to see Muschamp go that we welcomed McElwain with open arms. I myself was on board until witnessing the manner in which he bungled the Will Grier fiasco, and the abject collapse at the end of that first season. As others have hammered home on many occasions, the two divisional championships were the result of the total ineptitude of the entire eastern division, and not indicative of any real achievement by the Shriner's Clown parade that masqueraded as our coaching staff prior to the coming of CDM. Dan Mullen is not Jim McElwain, he is also not Will Muschamp. Exactly who CDM turns out to be...
the biggest disaster of them all - Jeremy Foley. And for that, I am most heartily grateful. Fire when ready.

Geez, where to begin...

1. Interesting that you own your support for mac and chump, but then csll out foley for not having the prescience to see what epic disasters theyd become. Imho, he took well calculated chances in both hires (thoigh i wouldn't have made either). Surprised u didnt throw zooker in there too...

2. Foley was a lot of things--worst uf disastr aint one of them. The guy was literally indispensably NECESSARY to ALL THREE Gator Natty's! He talked Spurrier into staying after 94 season. NB: we didnt win until 96.

He hired and closed the deal on urbs, ingeniously playing the wife angle (please spare me the enbarassingly baseless suggestion that he came here bc of machen, or thst machen made him hire urbs--AD works for UAA, not u. Pres). He also hired zook, who though unsuccessful on the gridiron, rocked the recruiting trail, picked so.fla clean, stripped Miami's juggernaught dynasty (got Coker fired 2 years after 1.9 nattys)....and who laid the NECESSARY, foundation for both of urbs nattys...

Thats without uttering a syllable about the dominance he facilitated in the other sports.

Yes, his last 2 coaching hires blew up in his face, and justly taint his legacy. Yes, he failed to see the facilities arms race that was taking place on his watch, and you can justly second guess that omission...

But give the devil his due--he was responsible for a pile of great things at uf, including (if not especially) in football, even overseeing excellent fiscal health of the program.

TBL, he is likely (if not certainly) not the best AD ever....but he is just as likely (if not as certainly) the best AD UF has ever had--and that's just from football vantage point.

Jmho/fwiw.
 
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Never heard this particular myth. Do tell.

Without Foley, we'd be sitting on 7 or 8 titles instead of 3.
Spurrier had an annual 30-day window in his contract that allowed him to talk to NFL teams. He's likely gonna say Spurrier was set to take the Bucs job from Sam Wyche, which would be so much bunk. Spurrier didn't want the job. It was a dumpster fire at the time.

I dont care what anyone says to try and rehab Foley's name, it doesnt work in my mind.
 

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There are multiple stories and anecdotes regarding Spurrier after the Nebraska beatdown and nearly taking the Bucs job before having a change of heart.

As any of us who saw him out at the airport that night, when he out loud wondered why in the world everybody would turn out for them after that performance, can easily believe he was in that state of mind.
 

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There are multiple stories and anecdotes regarding Spurrier after the Nebraska beatdown and nearly taking the Bucs job before having a change of heart.

As any of us who saw him out at the airport that night, when he out loud wondered why in the world everybody would turn out for them after that performance, can easily believe he was in that state of mind.
That was a year later, after the Bucs fired Wyche. There was a lot of speculation. I'm not sure it was anything more than that. Spurrier knew he had a loaded Florida team that could compete again for a championship, and it did.

The notion that Foley was needed to convince Spurrier to stay really does humor me. Spurrier marched to his own drum and it was his alma mater. I don't think he needed Jeremy Foley to sell the idea of staying.
 

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Never heard this particular myth. Do tell.

Without Foley, we'd be sitting on 7 or 8 titles instead of 3.

Had year wrong--was jan 96, after neb took us to the woodshed--Bucs offered....Spurrier 'listened' (had not before):

The Fort Scott Tribune - Google News Archive Search

Dolphins also expressed intetest (last paragraph):

Florida Coach Spurrier Reportedly Offered Head Job With Buccaneers

Foley stepped up to plate and offered him most money in cfb at time.

No link, but upon recollection, it was Norm Carlson who told story about foley pleading with Spurs.
 
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Never heard this particular myth. Do tell.

Without Foley, we'd be sitting on 7 or 8 titles instead of 3.

...n btw, 7-8 titles is incredibly optimistic -- enough to humble this relatively optimistic Gator.

Hell, Saban hasnt even won 7, and he punched the best weve ever had square in the mouth, sent his ass running to the big 10 with his tail between his legs.

Just sayn...
 

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Had year wrong--was jan 96, after neb took us to the woodshed:

Bucs offered....Spurrier 'listened' (had not before).

The Fort Scott Tribune - Google News Archive Search

Dolphins also expressed intetest:

Florida Coach Spurrier Reportedly Offered Head Job With Buccaneers

Foley stepped up to plate and offered him most money in cfb at time.

No link, but upon recollection, it was Norm Carlson who told story about foley pleading with Spurs.
I remember it well. Was down here in Tampa Bay reading about it. It was well known that the Glazers wanted to make a splash with Spurrier, and, yes, he listened. That was the whole purpose od the 30-day window, to mull offers and the leverage it gave him with Florida.

Spurrier wasn't all about the paycheck, but he certainly didn't mind being paid well. See: Snyder, Daniel.

The Bucs didn't do so poorly in Spurrier's absence. Tony Dungy quickly took them to new heights.
 

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Spurrier had an annual 30-day window in his contract that allowed him to talk to NFL teams. He's likely gonna say Spurrier was set to take the Bucs job from Sam Wyche, which would be so much bunk. Spurrier didn't want the job. It was a dumpster fire at the time.

I dont care what anyone says to try and rehab Foley's name, it doesnt work in my mind.

Think what you will...just offering some (my) perspective.
 

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I remember it well. Was down here in Tampa Bay reading about it. It was well known that the Glazers wanted to make a splash with Spurrier, and, yes, he listened. That was the whole purpose od the 30-day window, to mull offers and the leverage it gave him with Florida.

Spurrier wasn't all about the paycheck, but he certainly didn't mind being paid well. See: Snyder, Daniel.

The Bucs didn't do so poorly in Spurrier's absence. Tony Dungy quickly took them to new heights.

Yep, and in wake of that gid forrsaken humiliation at nebs hands, it played painfully on our...newly acquired inferiority complex, which developef in its wake.
 

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That was a year later, after the Bucs fired Wyche. There was a lot of speculation. I'm not sure it was anything more than that. Spurrier knew he had a loaded Florida team that could compete again for a championship, and it did.

The notion that Foley was needed to convince Spurrier to stay really does humor me. Spurrier marched to his own drum and it was his alma mater. I don't think he needed Jeremy Foley to sell the idea of staying.

Fair points, but Spurrier also had an ego that needed being stroked from time to time, and at that time--when the OBC prolly needed some...JF wasnt too proud to beg.

Cest la vie.
 

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Think what you will...just offering some (my) perspective.
I was replying directly to your statement that it was after the '94 season. The timing gave me one big disconnect.
 

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Fair points, but Spurrier also had an ego that needed being stroked from time to time, and at that time--when the OBC prolly needed some...JF wasnt too proud to beg.

Cest la vie.
Again, you said '94 season. The sale of the Bucs to the Glazers had yet to be finalized. I knew that couldn't have happened.

Whether it was more Foley's begging or Spurrier's conscience gnawing at him, I suppose we could debate endlessly.
 

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