What is the reason for Mullen's perceived cap?

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Just got done reading a post about him being a 9-10-win coach. That's been my concern as well, that we'll be capped. He's obviously done a great job with the roster so far, but the lingering question remains. Can he take us to top?

I think it's here where we're most divided. But why are we divided?

Is it the perception that Mullen lacks the organization, scheme and ability to assemble a top-notch coaching staff or it is more the belief that he can't consistently recruit top athletes?

His record at Mississippi State, long a forgotten SEC West outpost, at once supports and haunts him.

Bear in mind, too, this ain't Mississippi State.
 
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Just got done reading a post about him being a 9-10-win coach. That's been my concern as well, that we'll be capped. He's obviously done a great job with the roster so far, but the lingering question remains. Can he take us to top?

I think it's here where we're most divided. But why are we divided?

Is it the perception that Mullen lacks the organization, scheme and ability, or lack thereof, to assemble a top-notch coaching staff or it is more the belief that he can't consistently recruit top athletes?

Both is not an acceptable answer.

Bear in mind, too, this ain't Mississippi State.
My rationale was lack of creativity and risk taking. So far I’ve been wrong.

And I did not think he’d get the players to get it their all.
 

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I’ll be happy to address this when we have 3 straight 9-10 good win years. Not the lucky, need 2-3 defensive score wins, but ones where we look like a complete football team.
 

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Uneducated opinions by overinflated self-opinions.

Let the man determine his own cap.
 

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If he can get the talent to come, I don't think he does have a cap. He can clearly maximize talent and inspire players

The only thing he doesn't have is top notch talent due to the recruiting in recent years
 

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The cap has always been due to his record against Top 10 teams. If he can overcome that, his cap would be the sky.
 

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The cap has always been due to his record against Top 10 teams. If he can overcome that, his cap would be the sky.
If that's the "reason", then it has to reset every time he changes programs because the last place he coached isn't comparable to his current.
 

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Is it the perception that Mullen lacks the organization, scheme and ability, or lack thereof, to assemble a top-notch coaching staff or it is more the belief that he can't consistently recruit top athletes?
Lack of effective offensive scheme and weak recruiting. It isn't Miss State and yet he is recruiting like it is Miss State.
 

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The cap is due to the fact he was at frigging MSU where noone wanted to go. He did pretty damn good with what he got there... Now let's watch what he can do at a premiere program... When he gets his players... He has already taken a loser squad and made them presentable.
 

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Lack of effective offensive scheme and weak recruiting. It isn't Miss State and yet he is recruiting like it is Miss State.
Come on, I know you are smarter than that. Recruits want to see results.. commits have been based on past performance. By the end of the season they will be looking at at least a 9 win team... Right now they are basing it off a sub 500 team. Do you really think that doesn't matter?
 

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His recruiting needs to improve, other than that I’ve been impressed with him. Also I fear he may keep deadweight assistants cause they are his buddies.
 

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Come on, I know you are smarter than that. Recruits want to see results.. commits have been based on past performance. By the end of the season they will be looking at at least a 9 win team... Right now they are basing it off a sub 500 team. Do you really think that doesn't matter?

It typically doesn’t in a bump class. That said, I’m hopeful that even though he’s not a natural lights out recruiter, kids will see what he’s building and want to be a part of it. If not, then I’m hopeful he recognizes we may need some staff changes to get that done.

In short, I’d still rather someone who can develop, gameplan and outcoach opponents over just someone who’s just great at selling a dream but can’t deliver.

As others have mentioned, he’s only had one stop and it was a tough venue. No way to know exactly what his ceiling is until he has been given time here. I’m excited about what I’ve seen so far.
 

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If that's the "reason", then it has to reset every time he changes programs because the last place he coached isn't comparable to his current.

And here is the divide. Having the worst AP all-time record ranked vs ranked teams is pretty telling.

Sorry. Until it's not true...it is true.
 

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And here is the divide. Having the worst AP all-time record ranked vs ranked teams is pretty telling.

Sorry. Until it's not true...it is true.
I'm sorry if the logic escapes you, but UF isn't MSU. The two aren't comparable & attempting to arbitrarily assign a win "cap" on someone based on one head coaching gig at a sub-standard school is silly.
 

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The cap is due to the fact he was at frigging MSU where noone wanted to go. He did pretty damn good with what he got there... Now let's watch what he can do at a premiere program... When he gets his players... He has already taken a loser squad and made them presentable.

Do you think that the talent was actually 4-7 or was the coaching that bad? I'm not saying Mullen hasn't done a good job. He has. I'm only asking since Mac and his staff were removed was there addition by subtraction?
 

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I'm sorry if the logic escapes you, but UF isn't MSU. The two aren't comparable & attempting to arbitrarily assign a win "cap" on someone based on one head coaching gig at a sub-standard school is silly.

LOL. NINE years. Okie dokie.
 

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