It's not the coach

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

BMF said:
The first thing you should have noticed about this board is it is NOT Gatorcountry.....it's GatorCHATTER. Big difference. This board allows ALL opinions and curbs sunshine pumping, as other boards promote/encourage sunshine pumping. In short, you'll get a dose of reality over here.

With that said, keep posting. This is a good thread w/ a lot of valid points. I'm of the opinion that this is on the coaches. I know we need a better OL and a much, much better QB. However, the coaches know what they have (talent wise) and have failed miserably in putting these players in a position to win. This is on Jim McElwain, his assistants, and mostly....Jeremy Foley for bringing it here.

Allows all opinions and curbs sunshine pumping? My experience so far has shown that the expression of ALL opinions is highly discouraged. The curbing what some consider sunshine pumping is the general rule. Tolerance is not a trait the vocal majority on this board actively display. You either agree with them or they will try their best to marginalize you and drive you away.

That's gotta be good for business.

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

T REX said:
That's just lazy. Pumpers gettin' lazy.

Real sorry I'm not working hard enough for you. You are truly the one person that I never wanted to disappoint. I will try to carry on despite this burden.

backstop13 · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

Durty South Swamp said:
You might want to reread mine, I don't care if you said either. I said that we didn't do anything you suggest, which is the truth. Neither of those kids EVER had ANY kind of offer from bama. They talked to the coaching staff and were probably told by some bama asst that bama was interested. That aint an offer and that aint beating anyone out. Quit embellishing. Those kids were plan C's for bama; we didn't beat bama for them. We may have beat some schools for them but bama wasn't one.

Wow.

Oh... and by the way, you've posted like 8 times since being asked by multiple posters to make a prediction. You respond by saying you don't have time to answer every post, then answer nearly every post except the ones asking you to put your money where your mouth is. Put up or shut up big dawg.

Perine never had any kind of offer from Bama? The internet disagrees with that statement. It's a close call. However, between you and every recruiting service, I think I will believe the everyone else. No offense.

Durty South Swamp · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 said:
Perine never had any kind of offer from Bama? The internet disagrees with that statement. It's a close call. However, between you and every recruiting service, I think I will believe the everyone else. No offense.

Keep spinning...

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

Durty South Swamp said:
He ignored all the noncon losses but added all the noncon wins to get that record. I guess we might as well grant ourselves a few imaginary football championships too while we're at it.

I didn't ignore anything. I stated that Mac was 13-4 in the SEC and had won 2 East championships.

2015 regular season 7-1 with a loss to Bama in the SEC Championship game.
2016 regular season 6-2.

I do believe that adds up to 13-4.

I did not add or subtract any noncom wins or losses.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. But do you really need to just make stuff up to try to disprove me?

You're gonna hurt your back with all that stretching.

ThreatMatrix · Nov 30, 2016

I like this 2222 guy. May not agree with everything but it's nice to see a different angle.

Ima gonna answer the Treon question as to why we didn't run him more. It's because he couldn't even do that right. Yeah, in 2014 he got away with it a bit when defenses weren't sure what to expect from him but by 2015 he couldn't even be counted on to run.

Durty South Swamp · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 said:
I didn't ignore anything. I stated that Mac was 18-4 in the SEC and had won 2 East championships.

2015 regular season 7-1 with a loss to Bama in the SEC Championship game.
2016 regular season 6-2.

I do believe that adds up to 13-4.

I did not add or subtract any noncom wins or losses.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. But do you really need to just make stuff up to try to disprove me?

You're gonna hurt your back with all that stretching.

LOLOLOLOLOL.... read your own post. you said he was 18-4 in the SEC. He's won 18 total games including all nonconference victories. However, if your including nonconference victories you have to include nonconference losses. He's 18-7 and about to be 18-8 just as I stated already.

You are total clown.

Durty South Swamp · Nov 30, 2016

And yea... I caught that screen grab before you went back and edited it from 18 to 13.

Nice try CLOWN. You've been exposed.

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

Durty South Swamp said:
LOLOLOLOLOL.... read your own post. you said he was 18-4 in the SEC. He's won 18 total games including all nonconference victories. However, if your including nonconference victories you have to include nonconference losses. He's 18-7 and about to be 18-8 just as I stated already.

You are total clown.

OK, reread my post and there is a typo. Hit an 8 instead of a 3. My bad. Point still stands. You are so eager to stifle me that you just assume that I was cooking the numbers.

ThreatMatrix · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 said:
Here in Gainesville we frequently have the opportunity to go see a variety of speakers at UF. If the speaker is a liberal everything is just fine. However, if the speaker is a conservative then all the liberal students go nuts. They start protesting, they demand the university prevent the speaker from talking and they attend the event and try to disrupt it.

Law98gator reminds me of the liberals in this town. Completely intolerant of any opinion that is different of their own and trying to censor anyone they disagree with.

If my ideas are so threatening to you that you get angry then perhaps it's time to look in the mirror.

Don't let Law bother you, he's a professional heckler.

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

Durty South Swamp said:
And yea... I caught that screen grab before you went back and edited it from 18 to 13.

Nice try CLOWN. You've been exposed.

I haven't edited it. I owned up to my typo.

Seriously, why the name calling and anger? Are you really that insecure that my difference in opinion threatens you? You need to seek help for your anger management issues.

Durty South Swamp · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 said:
OK, reread my post and there is a typo. Hit an 8 instead of a 3. My bad. Point still stands. You are so eager to stifle me that you just assume that I was cooking the numbers.

b*tch please.... you put 18, then edited it after I already caught you... but you still haven't edited your original post where you stated 18. And that IS his wins record. You didn't accidently hit 8 instead of 3. You gave him all his wins but took away non con losses b/c it helps your narrative. I still have your original post... its been up for a while... enjoy...

Gator2222 said:
And yet it's so much better than not winning the East. I can only imagine the angst if Mac were not 18-4 with 2 East titles.

Durty South Swamp · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 said:
You need to seek help for your anger management issues.

oh im not angry... this is hilarious. I think that's pretty obvious from my posts.

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

88drgator said:
Yeah, and won't answer what our W-L should be for next year:rolleyes:

I honestly have no idea what our record will be next year. I have no idea who the QB will be or what players will come in and make the lineup right away. I don't know all of our opponents depth charts or who will be starting for them.

Are you insinuating that if I can't correctly predict the exact future of the team then my opinion is invalid?

You predict Mac will be gone. I predict he will remain.

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

Durty South Swamp said:
oh im not angry... this is hilarious. I think that's pretty obvious from my posts.

The only thing obvious from your posts is that when you have a veil of anonymity and someone expresses an opinion different from your own then you act like a petulant child. You belittle them, call them names and just generally act like an ass. I seriously hope that you don't treat the people around you that way when you can't rely on hiding behind a screen. You really don't seem like a very nice person to converse with or be around. I hope it is just internet bravado and not the real you.

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

Durty South Swamp said:
b*tch please.... you put 18, then edited it after I already caught you... but you still haven't edited your original post where you stated 18. And that IS his wins record. You didn't accidently hit 8 instead of 3. You gave him all his wins but took away non con losses b/c it helps your narrative. I still have your original post... its been up for a while... enjoy...

Seriously dude, for the sake of the people in your life, go get help for your anger management issues.

All I've done is state an opinion and you are out of control.

Durty South Swamp · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 said:
The only thing obvious from your posts is that when you have a veil of anonymity and someone expresses an opinion different from your own then you act like a petulant child. You belittle them, call them names and just generally act like an ass. I seriously hope that you don't treat the people around you that way when you can't rely on hiding behind a screen. You really don't seem like a very nice person to converse with or be around. I hope it is just internet bravado and not the real you.

Care to respond to the fact that you have made multiple posts stating 18-4 before being called out? Or you just going to continue to deflect?

Durty South Swamp · Nov 30, 2016

Gator2222 said:
And yet it's so much better than not winning the East. I can only imagine the angst if Mac were not 18-4 with 2 East titles.

Gator2222 · Nov 30, 2016

Durty South Swamp said:
Care to respond to the fact that you have made multiple posts stating 18-4 before being called out? Or you just going to continue to deflect?

What exactly is it that you are after? You obviously aren't interested in a genuine conversation. Is this a power thing? Are you lacking power in your life and so you prey on people on the internet?

Not sure what your issue is, but I'm fairly certain that you need help.

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