***Official Game Thread*** Florida at South Carolina

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The problems are always on offense, regardless of sport. Just once I'd like one of my teams to be deficienct defensively.
 

diehardg8r

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Guard play is freaking horrible on this team. If you want to see half court offense suck, put our guards in charge of it.
 

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Guard play is freaking horrible on this team. If you want to see half court offense suck, put our guards in charge of it.
We also run about 2 off ball screens all game...every game. Run 2 in the same possession and we would have a wide open player...maybe Allen...get him a clean open look. But White thinks the dribble drive is the only offense...until we play a team who can defend it, then we have no offense. So yes, we have bad offensive guard play but they are doing what the coach says
 

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Just saw that we had 38 points in the paint and 15 free throws. Thus 0 outside shots much less 3 pointers.
 

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Coaching...we didn't run 1 play all game except the fake backdoor turnover. Just hand it off and drive. Can't do that vs this d. Unbelievable bad game plan. That was a mac 12 gameplan
Also...bet he blames our defense after the game lol

Bro. We missed so many wide open 3s, easy putbacks, lay ups and most importantly, FREE throws.

This game was 100% on our execution.
 

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Down 5 again. White better not blame the player like Mac. Worst coaching in years. All we do is dribble hand off and hope someone falls down and we get a layup.

Lee I always enjoy reading your thoughts on bball and a lot of your commentary tonite fits with my biggest criticism of Mike as a head coach. He is a terrible offensive coach. I think his kids play hard, play good defense, but are not overly intelligent and offensively he has no idea how to design a system that helps his players. This is not about tonite's game at all b/c USCe is a great defensive team, they are strong and they contest every pass. But I have criticized Mike for his team's shot selection all year as his man to man offense is dribble dribble dribble, on the ball screen while 3 guys just stand around. You can't stand around against an active defensive team like USCe. Mike's offense both against man to man and zone defenses are as stagnant as a post. ZERO off the ball movement, ZERO off the ball screening, ZERO motions, ZERO off the ball cutting with a purpose. All these lacks, show up in a game like tonite as guys are always running to the ball to help the dribbler out. the off the ball action would help create openings and cause the defenders to not always be fixated on the ball. Lack of movement causes the defense to be able to set their feet. This is the type of game that a guy like Allen should be able to control b/c he can get to the rim and has the upper body strength to finish at the the rim. But Mike can't get him the ball on the move to help him. Mike can't get him the ball at an advantageous angle to take advantage of the defense being on the move. Mike's idea of creating for Allen is get him him the ball between the circles, face up the defender and then try to beat him one on one. Not happening against a good defensive team. White's main offense is to create a shot after 1 pass only and that is not a good strategy against a great defensive team. Mike needs to seek help from others in creating a true motion system with meaningful off the ball action to counter great defensive teams. His inability to help his players offensively will be their downfall early in the NCAA tourney
 

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I'm going to chalk this up as a fluke game. Sure, our offense goes through ruts, but this kind of shooting night won't happen again.

We have a solid team (6-9 seed probably) but still lack consistent scorers.

That said, can't wait til the day Chiozza leaves. Not to be mean but he's not good.
 

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We run an NBA style offense. Get used to it.

When shots aren't falling, we will struggle.
 

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We run an NBA style offense. Get used to it.

When shots aren't falling, we will struggle.

You really can't run an NBA type offense when you do not have NBA type playes. We don not have any players that you can ISO or for that matter, have 2 players to play a 2 man game on offense. Mike is a terrible offensive coach to think he has NBA ISO guys on offense. You do not have to make a lot of 3 pointers to win games. Smart shot selection and an ability to get your players in good spots is the key. Losing a game like this does not bother me. It highlites the weaknesses that I have seen in the wins. They just get magnified b/c a good defensive team easily exposes such simple weaknesses.
 

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We also run about 2 off ball screens all game...every game. Run 2 in the same possession and we would have a wide open player...maybe Allen...get him a clean open look. But White thinks the dribble drive is the only offense...until we play a team who can defend it, then we have no offense. So yes, we have bad offensive guard play but they are doing what the coach says
Um...they were doing the same **** when Billy was coaching.
 

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You really can't run an NBA type offense when you do not have NBA type playes. We don not have any players that you can ISO or for that matter, have 2 players to play a 2 man game on offense. Mike is a terrible offensive coach to think he has NBA ISO guys on offense. You do not have to make a lot of 3 pointers to win games. Smart shot selection and an ability to get your players in good spots is the key. Losing a game like this does not bother me. It highlites the weaknesses that I have seen in the wins. They just get magnified b/c a good defensive team easily exposes such simple weaknesses.

Well we are 14-4 and 5-1 in the SEC so it's working for now. I think we will be fine regardless, just can't go 0-17 from 3 and shoot 50% from the charity stripe. Literally the only reasons we lost.
 

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Um...they were doing the same **** when Billy was coaching.
I'm sorry but if you believe Billy ran a dribble drive offense you are crazy...he ran a screening offense....and a passing offense. Nothing like the dribble drive Kentucky and now we use. Nothing like it
 

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Well we are 14-4 and 5-1 in the SEC so it's working for now. I think we will be fine regardless, just can't go 0-17 from 3 and shoot 50% from the charity stripe. Literally the only reasons we lost.
We will see. Our schedule is still crazy tough. Vandy has the 2nd best offense we would have faced up to that point. We can not play remotely close to this bad against them. Also, next Saturday at Oklahoma is going to be tough. They just beat #7 West Virgina on the road
 

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Miserable performance, but again should have won it. Don't know how you miss every three you take. But, SC is a tough grind it out team. Offensively we have no one who is really capable of fully taking over a game, but we already knew that. And this was the worst FT shooting by far this year.

We are 1/3 of the way through conference and right where I thought. We still have a good shoy at 14-4 or 13-5.

I guess just call me a basketball pumper. But, I do dislike the dribble drive 'offense' which really isn't an offensive set at all. To execute it you need a very good PG and consistent outside shooters which we do not have at this point. But hopefully help is on the way.
 

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