UPDATE: QB Justin Fields Commits to The Puppies

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Mac promised us offense and so far he has not delivered. Yeah, yeah I know, SEC East yada yada yada but I can't imagine a more predictable and boring offense as we have seen in Mac's first two years except maybe MushChumps. And with MushChump we knew we were getting a D guy who made no promises about offense. So Mac, please get a stud qb, and not some cast-off transfer, who can lead us at least a little north of the bottom 10 in national offense. Don't care who, where, what color or what gender. Just do it.

We had offense with Will Grier. Actually if you think about it, Mac teased us and showed us what it could look like if we had a stud QB. That 2015 Ole Miss game was a thing of beauty. Sigh, then we go to Treon...double sigh, then to LDR....triple sigh, then Applebottom. What a tease that was. Sheesh.
 

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He was left with enough to score against the fau's umass and North texas' of the world. No decent offensive coach would be this awful at the university of Florida.

He has had to completely rebuild the offense from the ground up. Muschamp barley left him with enough offensive linemen to field a team. He had a a good QB, but then that guy got suspended...

He had no real offensive talent when he came here.
 

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We had offense with Will Grier. Actually if you think about it, Mac teased us and showed us what it could look like if we had a stud QB. That 2015 Ole Miss game was a thing of beauty. Sigh, then we go to Treon...double sigh, then to LDR....triple sigh, then Applebottom. What a tease that was. Sheesh.

The Ol Piss game was an anomaly. The offense looked decent to average that game while the game prior and the game after it looked like it always has under Jimmy James....

I just don't think him or Nuss are as good as the media and others made them out to be; much easier to look good when you hoard talent like they did at Bama
 

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He has had to completely rebuild the offense from the ground up. Muschamp barley left him with enough offensive linemen to field a team. He had a a good QB, but then that guy got suspended...

He had no real offensive talent when he came here.

Yet Chimp was able to score more than 10 points against FSU with the same players. In fact, I think it's more concerning that we now have more talent on O than Chimp's entire four years here and yet we look worse on O
 

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The Ol Piss game was an anomaly. The offense looked decent to average that game while the game prior and the game after it looked like it always has under Jimmy James....

I just don't think him or Nuss are as good as the media and others made them out to be; much easier to look good when you hoard talent like they did at Bama

You mean our offense looked alright against the 108th pass defense in the Nation... really? Wow... But I'm sure it was because of the qb and not the fact that Ol Piss defense sucked monkey balls.
 

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Yet Chimp was able to score more than 10 points against FSU with the same players. In fact, I think it's more concerning that we now have more talent on O than Chimp's entire four years here and yet we look worse on O

Chimp had a better OL when he was coach. He left Muschamp with crap because he didn't recruit, but his last year he had seniors and juniors who left early who actually performed on the OL. This is really key to scoring some points.

I also don't just look at how they did against FSU as a judge. I think McElwain has shown flashes of an offense that can perform, he just needs a QB that can run his offense. Even in the Alabama game the team was moving down the field until AA started throwing interceptions and missing wide open WRs for TDs.
 

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I think it's more concerning that we now have more talent on O
This gets repeated so often yet it simply isnt true.

Chimp had Gillislee and some guys we hoped would develop. Butters has Scarlett and some guys we hope will develop.

Chimp had Drob and some guys we hoped would develop (loved those yearly Fulwood and Worton are going to breakout this year predictions-- you know who you are). Now we have Callaway and some guys we hoped would develop (I know, I know breakout coming).

Chimp landed Grier and Freon. Butters signed one four star QB who is a damn mess of an overthrowing project and a bunch of Div3 talent level shyt to fill out the roster.

Chimp had a thin and mediocre OL. Butters is bringing home the FAU bacon, and yet we still have an OL that gets bytchslapped by a walkon LBs and a true freshman DT.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are just stocked on offense.

How many of our offensive players get on the field for Trailerbammer or one of our championship teams? One maybe two at most. That is the reality we are living in.
 
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I just don't think him or Nuss are as good as the media and others made them out to be; much easier to look good when you hoard talent like they did at Bama
Nuss didnt look good even at Bammer. Thats why he got fired/invited to leave.
 

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He has had to completely rebuild the offense from the ground up. Muschamp barley left him with enough offensive linemen to field a team. He had a a good QB, but then that guy got suspended...

He had no real offensive talent when he came here.
Rebuilt the offense? We had one of the worse offenses in college football last year. He brought the offensive line numbers up but there was no where to go but up numbers wise. Our qb situation is worse than when he got here. Adding a bunch of bodies to the offensive line isn't rebuilding an offense from scratch.
 

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Rebuilt the offense? We had one of the worse offenses in college football last year. He brought the offensive line numbers up but there was no where to go but up numbers wise. Our qb situation is worse than when he got here. Adding a bunch of bodies to the offensive line isn't rebuilding an offense from scratch.

Our WR talent is much much better than when he got here. Rebuilding the OL is a huge deal because that is the engine for the offense. As far as QB... when he got here he has Grier and Harris... Grier got suspended, so all he really had was Harris... I'm not saying LDR, Franks, and group are fantastic, but I think the situation is better than just Harris.

People forget how bad our QB numbers were. The lack of depth and recruiting there really hurt as well. I do think McElwain should be doing better (specifically in recruiting talent), but I think the amount of work needed has been extremely underestimated.
 

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Rebuilt the offense? We had one of the worse offenses in college football last year. He brought the offensive line numbers up but there was no where to go but up numbers wise. Our qb situation is worse than when he got here. Adding a bunch of bodies to the offensive line isn't rebuilding an offense from scratch.

Well, he kinda had to replace all those receivers who kept dropping the ball too. And PED boy. And the habitual sexual assault boy Treoff...
 

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Well, he kinda had to replace all those receivers who kept dropping the ball too. And PED boy. And the habitual sexual assault boy Treoff...

Well if you were around in 1990, you would know you can coach up receivers who drop the ball into catching the ball. Demanding excellence goes a long way to fixing certain problems.
 

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Rebuilt the offense? We had one of the worse offenses in college football last year. He brought the offensive line numbers up but there was no where to go but up numbers wise. Our qb situation is worse than when he got here. Adding a bunch of bodies to the offensive line isn't rebuilding an offense from scratch.

The O line hasn't shown it on the field much however as they were rated one of the worst rush blocking teams in the whole country last season by the stat Football Focus uses to rate NFL lines. We were also the worst rushing team in the SEC last season and that includes the bottom dwellers like Vandy and KY etc. Heck our top rushers weren't even averaging over about 5 yards a carry against the cupcake teams I think.
 

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The O line hasn't shown it on the field much however as they were rated one of the worst rush blocking teams in the whole country last season by the stat Football Focus uses to rate NFL lines. We were also the worst rushing team in the SEC last season and that includes the bottom dwellers like Vandy and KY etc. Heck our top rushers weren't even averaging over about 5 yards a carry against the cupcake teams I think.

And this is why Summers was fired and Brad Davis was hired. We'll find out if the switch makes any difference this year.
 

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And this is why Summers was fired and Brad Davis was hired. We'll find out if the switch makes any difference this year.

I hope it does. He does seem to get them fired up a little more but we need to see it in real game action.
 

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Well if you were around in 1990, you would know you can coach up receivers who drop the ball into catching the ball. Demanding excellence goes a long way to fixing certain problems.

Dwyane Dixon is no longer our WR coach, and you have been able to tell that for a long time.
 

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Our WR talent is much much better than when he got here. Rebuilding the OL is a huge deal because that is the engine for the offense. As far as QB... when he got here he has Grier and Harris... Grier got suspended, so all he really had was Harris... I'm not saying LDR, Franks, and group are fantastic, but I think the situation is better than just Harris.

People forget how bad our QB numbers were. The lack of depth and recruiting there really hurt as well. I do think McElwain should be doing better (specifically in recruiting talent), but I think the amount of work needed has been extremely underestimated.
The engine that drives an offense is the qb. I don't care how many qb's he brought in if they all suck. How does bringing in 6 qb's that can't play help us? Bringing up the receiver talent is worthless without a qb. And lets not pretend hes got a bunch of studs in the oline. He filled the oline with abunch of 2 and 3 stars.
 
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