Chip Kelly to UCLA: $4 Mil/Year

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Lots of famous and very wealthy boosters coming out of UCLA. Money isn't a problem. For those of you who think why would he go to a lesser desirable program than Florida? Who was coaching at Oregon before CK? Probably can't remember without looking it up. A $10M buyout is nothing for those kind of boosters. 2nd largest TV market in US. Means lots of TV income for the school.......which in turn means lots of $$$$ for it's coach.
As of October 2016 (from Business Insider) UCLA ranked #25 in terms of sports revenue at $97m (football revenue $37m) and UF ranked #6 with $147 (and $73mm respectively). It's not even a fair fight dollar-wise. UF wins licensing rights/fees battle $55m to UCLA's $42.5m.
http://www.businessinsider.com/schools-most-revenue-college-sports-2016-10/#25-ucla--969-million-1
 

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Kelly was talking to UCLA behind the scenes - he told them he was ready to sign UF contract - they fired Mora to show they were serious. Kelly has been speculated for UCLA all season so it's not a surprise he's interested in them.
You are going with the simple, straight forward interpretation? We don't do that on this board.
 

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You are going with the simple, straight forward interpretation? We don't do that on this board.
It still makes no sense. The UCLA opening is NOT a surprise - it's been a likely scenario all season. So if Chip wanted UCLA, why wouldn't he just wait until the job came open?
 

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Must be the same guy who called in the death threats....

Still waiting.....

ehh, not so much honestly. In sports gambling odds start out with whatever line vegas or whoever setting them thinks makes it even. But to a certain extent, once the initial line is set, the public tends to drive it to move. Doesn't matter what team is really better, all that matters is the public perception. If money comes in hard on one side, the odds will move. They could end up at a true "even" at some point, but that doesn't mean that the teams are evenly matched. I suspect this is similar with picking whos going to get which coaching job. But I could be wrong.

People betting on favorites and underdogs push the odds majority of the time. Sportsbooks also "adjust" lines in their favor to not lose money. If they think (key word being think) they may lose money on a line, they will "adjust" the line accordingly in their favor with no explanation. Books move lines all the time to not lose money. It's common practice. Even odds are just that....even.

For example if UF were -110 (favorite) to win againt Tallacrappy this weekend. If you placed a $110 bet on them and they win, you would receive $100 winnings, plus get your original $110 back for a total of a $210 payout.

And if UF were +240 (underdog) , it means that if you bet $100 on them to win the game you would get your original bet of $100 plus $240 for a $340 total.

If the line is even, there is no clear cut favorite or dog. It's even steven.
 

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and he was replace with shannon,who was replaced by rumph, who was replaced by a QC guy...easy peasy we have 10 on field coaches, which is the NCAA limit
If he is signed as of a day certain, you can announce it when you please. Fire a coach by the day certain.
 

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It still makes no sense. The UCLA opening is NOT a surprise - it's been a likely scenario all season. So if Chip wanted UCLA, why wouldn't he just wait until the job came open?
Exactly. The narrative that we went up there, contract in hand, and Chip changed his mind on signing because during the flight the UCLA job came open is incredibly stupid.
 

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Still waiting.....



People betting on favorites and underdogs push the odds majority of the time. Sportsbooks also "adjust" lines in their favor to not lose money. If they think (key word being think) they may lose money on a line, they will "adjust" the line accordingly in their favor with no explanation. Books move lines all the time to not lose money. It's common practice. Even odds are just that....even.

For example if UF were -110 (favorite) to win againt Tallacrappy this weekend. If you placed a $110 bet on them and they win, you would receive $100 winnings, plus get your original $110 back for a total of a $210 payout.

And if UF were +240 (underdog) , it means that if you bet $100 on them to win the game you would get your original bet of $100 plus $240 for a $340 total.

If the line is even, there is no clear cut favorite or dog. It's even steven.
Telling me (what I and everyone else already knows) about how odds/payouts work doesn't even begin to address my post. I'm aware of how payouts work. I'm not talking about payouts. You should have just stopped with your first sentence, then nodded in agreement.
 

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Stressing this part: Fuchs flew up as a congratulatory gesture by Florida. A welcome to the family type and for him to meet the people he could talk to directly.

We’re all human, so think about how pissed you’d be if you got there and he said nah not right now.

We either move on or he’s signed. I don’t see another option

It could be the Fuchs went for a celebration of the signing, but I disagree that is was necessarily so. Look at the relative power of their positions. Kelly stands to make multiples of Fuchs comp. Plus, if Kelly is also vetting Florida, meeting with the president could absolutely be a part of the process. I've been recruited for far less $ than Kelly and it has always, at some point if it when far enough along, involved meeting the head wo/man. If I had as much leverage as Kelly, it might have been at my house.

Again, I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced Fuchs presence (alone) meant we had the contract in hand.

Fuchs presence in New Hampshire in mid-November does mean, however, that any other candidate and the fan base now know Kelly was our top choice.
 

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Telling me (what I and everyone else already knows) about how odds/payouts work doesn't even begin to address my post. I'm aware of how payouts work. I'm not talking about payouts. You should have just stopped with your first sentence, then nodded in agreement.

Lol.......So your saying the betting line "changed" that much because so much was bet within 24-36 hrs? Not happening in the least bit. I'd bet a years salary the line changed due to "rumors" of CK remotely interested in UCLA.
 

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It could be the Fuchs went for a celebration of the signing, but I disagree that is was necessarily so. Look at the relative power of their positions. Kelly stands to make multiples of Fuchs comp. Plus, if Kelly is also vetting Florida, meeting with the president could absolutely be a part of the process. I've been recruited for far less $ than Kelly and it has always, at some point if it when far enough along, involved meeting the head wo/man. If I had as much leverage as Kelly, it might have been at my house.

Again, I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced Fuchs presence (alone) meant we had the contract in hand.

Fuchs presence in New Hampshire in mid-November does mean, however, that any other candidate and the fan base now know Kelly was our top choice.
Now this post makes way too much sense. Clearly since we didn't have an announcement its a big FU by Chip to Florida, that's how irrational minds work.
 

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Still waiting.....



People betting on favorites and underdogs push the odds majority of the time. Sportsbooks also "adjust" lines in their favor to not lose money. If they think (key word being think) they may lose money on a line, they will "adjust" the line accordingly in their favor with no explanation. Books move lines all the time to not lose money. It's common practice. Even odds are just that....even.

For example if UF were -110 (favorite) to win againt Tallacrappy this weekend. If you placed a $110 bet on them and they win, you would receive $100 winnings, plus get your original $110 back for a total of a $210 payout.

And if UF were +240 (underdog) , it means that if you bet $100 on them to win the game you would get your original bet of $100 plus $240 for a $340 total.

If the line is even, there is no clear cut favorite or dog. It's even steven.

Your logic is flawed in your example. You are comparing two teams which there is one clear cut favorite and one underdog. When talking about a coaching search there are more than just two parties. (Jeff Fisher, Chip Kelly, Frost, Gruden, Mullen etc) that could end up being candidates for the job. Most times up to 10 names can be in pot. This site is only giving odds on on person in the search, which would tend to think he is the favorite in the group.
 

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It still makes no sense. The UCLA opening is NOT a surprise - it's been a likely scenario all season. So if Chip wanted UCLA, why wouldn't he just wait until the job came open?
He was talking to UCLA through back channels. Their UAA couldn't get involved because it would leak and that would look real bad while Mora was employed. They couldn't draw up contracts etc. so it was just a mutual interest stage. Once Mora was let go then all bets are off and they can put on the full press. Kelly most certainly has an interest in UF but now UCLA can operate in the open.
 

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It still makes no sense. The UCLA opening is NOT a surprise - it's been a likely scenario all season. So if Chip wanted UCLA, why wouldn't he just wait until the job came open?
Chip wanted a good job preferring UCLA. UCLA wouldn't fire Mora until they were on the verge of losing Kelly. They go after Kelly who says no to a good job to take the preferred job.
 

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Frank Frangie: "I think Chip Kelly is coming to Florida. There's no point in Lynda Tealer being on that plane unless the deal is done. She's the contract person."
Maybe her and Fuchs were antiquing?

We will be at 200 pages in no time with no more of an indication as to whether or not he has accepted the job. Absurd!!!
We can honestly say we left no stone unturned in the search for answers. I feel good about it. :chomp:


This weekends game is taking a backseat to this coaching search for sure, just wish something concrete would leak out to erase any doubt that he’s coming here.
There's a game this weekend? Who are we playing?
 

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Lol.......So your saying the betting line "changed" that much because so much was bet within 24-36 hrs? Not happening in the least bit. I'd bet a years salary the line changed due to "rumors" of CK remotely interested in UCLA.
Oye Vey...

I'm not saying anything about chip kelly betting odds. Go back and read my post. It was a response to a generalization about how lines are made and fluctuate. I disagreed with some of what you said noting that lines can change to favoring one team or the other independent of which team is actually the better team in the initial line setters mind. However, drawing incoherent conclusions from that about anything else seems apropos for this thread tho.
 

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Stressing this part: Fuchs flew up as a congratulatory gesture by Florida. A welcome to the family type and for him to meet the people he could talk to directly.

Otherwise, the tail wags the dog. Last I checked, there’s still a university in Gainesville.
 
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