Are we at rock bottom?

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Relatively speaking are we worse off than 1978?
1989?
2004?
 

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Yes we are st rock bottom. We can't even spell words with two letters correctly.
 

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Yes we are st rock bottom. We can't even spell words with two letters correctly.
I'm shoveling food/drink down pie hole, reading typing taking calls and speaking to people all at the same time
 

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No. Rock-ass bottom will be enduring the Chump/Mac debacle-thon and then watching the administration bring in yet another fvking momo, like those two, to complete the job of totally destroying UF football. That would be the mother of all rock-ass bottoms. Oh God, please don't let it happen.
 

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Relatively speaking are we worse off than 1978?
1989?
2004?

Certainly you can toss out 2004. Then UF just had higher standards back then.

As far as 1978 v. 1989, it depends on whether you think a drug problem in the program as alleged in 1978 v. NCAA probation and scholarship restrictions was worse. The 1978 era "drug problem" might seem tame in today's light so I will go with 1989 being the worse.
 

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Is this like A Streetcar Named Desire?
 

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Relatively speaking are we worse off than 1978?
1989?
2004?
Worse than 2004? No question. We had a solid defense, big talented OL, 5 star QB and WR, all SEC RB then... just a bad coach.

1989- we were shorthanded but very, very talented at almost every position.

Neither of those teams were stuffed with 20-30 kids we stole from FIU/FAU.

1979- imo yes but it is harder to quantify ovviously since there were no recruiting services. I standby the previous assertion that we werent stealing from geographic schools even then.

IMO yes, this is the least talented Gator team ever assembled by the worst recruiting coach.
 

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1979- imo yes but it is harder to quantify ovviously since there were no recruiting services.

One of the things that was I believe still happening in 1979 was that OU and UNL among others were taking a lot of players from south Florida.
 

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Dear Board,
To all you who think we are at rock bottom, Pls look at Fla football HY after the loss to Gen Nyland of Tenn in 28, And how it wasn t till the mid 50s under Bob Woodruff that we even got over 500. again, really, you people should read the whole book on Gator Football.
 

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Relatively speaking are we worse off than 1978?
1989?
2004?
A less subjective metric for this would be offensive TDs scored, ie rushing TDs and passing TDs. I looked at a number of years:

1979: 10
1989: 29
2004: 49
2013: 25
2017: 22

No single even objective metric is perfect. Still this metric match the 0-10-1 record and comes up with the same low point.
 

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A less subjective metric for this would be offensive TDs scored, ie rushing TDs and passing TDs. I looked at a number of years:

1979: 10
1989: 29
2004: 49
2013: 25
2017: 22

No single even objective metric is perfect. Still this metric match the 0-10-1 record and comes up with the same low point.
I don't like that much. If you scored 20 points back then, it was considered a "high powered offense" and even showing off.

0-10-1 record doesn't mean much either. Back then, we played #13 Houston (SWAC team then I think), Clown Town, scUM, and Tulsa (Metro same conference as Clowns). I guess you could say Tulsa was a cupcake, but IMO Metro was a much better conference than say CUSA is today. In any event, we didn't play 3 cupcakes then like we do now.

Also, two of our wins were literally freak wins on crazy plays in which the Kintucky defense forgot to play CBs and the Tinerc safety somehow forgot he was playing safety. This team FEELS like a 2 win team rather than a 4 win. That being said, it didn't lose to a 1AA team and yet feels stronger than those late Muschimp teams.
 
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Dear Board,
To all you who think we are at rock bottom, Pls look at Fla football HY after the loss to Gen Nyland of Tenn in 28, And how it wasn t till the mid 50s under Bob Woodruff that we even got over 500. again, really, you people should read the whole book on Gator Football.

Exactly or just before SOS came back when we lost badly to our homecoming opponent. We also have much better facilities, more money, and a much better school as well. Not to mention the support from other successful portions of the AD, especially men's BBall.

Things could be much worse, and have been in the past.
 

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Dear Board,
To all you who think we are at rock bottom, Pls look at Fla football HY after the loss to Gen Nyland of Tenn in 28, And how it wasn t till the mid 50s under Bob Woodruff that we even got over 500.
Bayer, my friend, most of us don't remember '28 or '50 for that matter. Or anything else that happened when the population of FL was half of that of M'ssippi. Just sayin.
 

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