UF Announces Dan Mullen as HC $36 Million over 6 Years

InstiGATOR1 · Nov 27, 2017

lagator said:
12/32 = 37.5%
4/29 = 12.9%

Tennessee had the balz to tell their AD "you hire that POS we will force you out." but we are supposed to just take him hiring his crony loser? Screw that, Mullet and Stricklin can EAD now and always.

The more interesting stat to me is Mullen was 2-15 in ranked match ups.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/m...n-mullen-worst-record-vs-ap-ranked-team-time/

So when Mullen had a good team he could not beat other good teams with decent coaches. If you have a mediocre team and you usually lose games against teams having good years, that might not mean you are a bad coach. If when you have a good team, you almost always lose to other good teams, that make you suspect in my mind.

lagator · Nov 27, 2017

MooseSmack said:
We could still have butters??? Thanks I'll take the present

No we couldn't, he was fired long before this hire. Making sh*t up to make this turd look better isn't helpful. What we could still have is Randy Shannon and an extra 5 million savings a year while we tried again for a coach who isn't a proven loser.

lagator · Nov 27, 2017

Mr2Bits said:
OK, Ive had some time to think about this and Im on board with Mullen. What hes done and where he has done it is pretty impressive. Every year Miss St nearly beats or beats Bama, when was the last time we can say we did that? Oh yea, when he was running the UF offense. Lets take a step back and look at our options.....we whiffed on and/or walked away from Kelly for whatever reason, if we are offering 7 million for Mullen we had to be in the 5-6 range for CK and he took much less with the Cali state tax multiplier, that to me doesnt scream CK deciding. Frost was never going anywhere else but Nebraska, whats available after that, Norvell, another crap conference coach...no thanks.

He never beat Bama, but thanks for playing.

lagator · Nov 27, 2017

SaintPeteGator said:
I don't follow recruiting like you all do, so I decided to educate myself. Per Rivals team rankings (which go back to 2002), the average Mississippi State class was ranked #31. Prior to his arrival they ranked 36th, so again Mullen did better than his predecessors. In his four years at Florida we were ranked 15, 2, 1, and 3. Obviously, Urban Meyer gets the most credit as the head guy but is there actually evidence that Mullen can't recruit or are we all just unhappy first and coming up with reasons second? Sounds like everyone is just in the mood to *****.

InstiGATOR1 said:
The more interesting stat to me is Mullen was 2-15 in ranked match ups.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/m...n-mullen-worst-record-vs-ap-ranked-team-time/

So when Mullen had a good team he could not beat other good teams with decent coaches. If you have a mediocre team and you usually lose games against teams having good years, that might not mean you are a bad coach. If when you have a good team, you almost always lose to other good teams, that make you suspect in my mind.

No matter how you measure his record you come to the same conclusion, he's a loser. How he got the press to sell this idea that he is a winner and should be at the top of everyone's list is something I've never been able to figure out.

gat0rjay · Nov 27, 2017

Gatorup! said:
According to Brindise, who still carries a torch for muschimp, Spurrier wanted the job and was turned down. Interesting if true.

Wow, if this is true it's sickening. Considering the base-energizing options after Kelly/Frost were 0, if SOS really wanted the job and they didn't consider him, AGAIN, then Foley/Strick and the entire band of power hungry UAA and Uni staff involved should be shown the door (I know that will never happen, but it should if that's actually the case).

If SOS wanted the job, after us being turned down by Kelly, it would've been a dream solution. SOS could've stepped in for 2-4 years, maybe gotten the all time SEC wins record for himself, surely would've maintained the scoring and Kentucky streaks, and would definitely have had us on an upward trend while our ancient facilities were upgraded. Then when he was ready to call it a career, retiring after the last game on his field, we'd actually be a massively desirable program ready for a great hire (maybe even do a coach-in-waiting deal to help diminish the negative recruiting). All pretty pointless to dream about at this point - but man, what a nice dream.

Conversely, If Noah's comments are genuine and true, then it makes the horse pill of Mullen that much more of a nightmare to swallow.

EADracing · Nov 27, 2017

lagator said:
12/32 = 37.5%
4/29 = 12.9%

Tennessee had the balz to tell their AD "you hire that POS we will force you out." but we are supposed to just take him hiring his crony loser? Screw that, Mullet and Stricklin can EAD now and always.

oxking · Nov 27, 2017

Well, I was completely surprised. He was the OC for 2 national championships but he'll need to be the coach of a 3rd before this hire will look good. I will gudgingly add, it's better than Zook, the Chump and Mac. That's not saying much however. It was a splash hire though -- a belly flop.

URGatorBait · Nov 27, 2017

I give up

Theologator · Nov 27, 2017

Crunchtime said:
Let's be honest....what does it matter at this point? He coached at USC and they are better than we are now. He coached @ Tennessee and they are better than we are now. Hell, you can recover from Lane quicker than you can recover from Butters. At least he can recruit and fill the shelves with talent before he implodes. :-)

How is Tennessee better than we are now? They’ve never recovered from firing Fulmer.

USC is THE premier, historic program west of the Rockies. Kiffin had 2 early 3rd-ranked classes then slipped to 8th & 13th once they got to know him. They’ve recruited better before and after Kiffin.

Theologator · Nov 27, 2017

gat0rjay said:
Wow, if this is true it's sickening. Considering the base-energizing options after Kelly/Frost were 0, if SOS really wanted the job and they didn't consider him, AGAIN, then Foley/Strick and the entire band of power hungry UAA and Uni staff involved should be shown the door (I know that will never happen, but it should if that's actually the case).

If SOS wanted the job, after us being turned down by Kelly, it would've been a dream solution. SOS could've stepped in for 2-4 years, maybe gotten the all time SEC wins record for himself, surely would've maintained the scoring and Kentucky streaks, and would definitely have had us on an upward trend while our ancient facilities were upgraded. Then when he was ready to call it a career, retiring after the last game on his field, we'd actually be a massively desirable program ready for a great hire (maybe even do a coach-in-waiting deal to help diminish the negative recruiting). All pretty pointless to dream about at this point - but man, what a nice dream.

Conversely, If Noah's comments are genuine and true, then it makes the horse pill of Mullen that much more of a nightmare to swallow.

But there’s also this:

It’s quite possible that Spurrier would have taken the job as you suggest as a 2-year or so interim. However, he’s also been very clear that he doesn’t want to be that Bowden-Paterno relic on the sideline.

I don’t think he posts that video without meaning it.

There has been a rift with Mullen among some Spurrier-era players, especially Shane & Noah. The feud began early on when Mullen said some cocky and dismissive things when asked about the Spurrier offenses of the 1990’s. Shane fired back and it simmered the entire time Mullen was here. (Meyer always praised Spurrier effusively.) I hope they can get past that. One of Mac’s apparent mistakes was not using the HBC for counsel and advice. That’s beyond foolish.

fasonfan · Nov 27, 2017

I'm not sure SOS is ready for the demand of this job.. I mean seriously this team is a diaster does someone at his age really want to put the energy in? Seriously, Mullen better show up with cases of Amp, redbull, energy bars, rockstars, etc.

MatthewM. · Nov 27, 2017

Well, I just woke up. Can confirm this wasn’t just a really bad dream. Bummer.

Swamp Donkey · Nov 27, 2017

Gatorraid81 said:
Didn't Nick Marshall run that kind of offense, he don't seem that big.

That kind of offense? No.

Mullen runs a pretty specific offense, basically an old.1950s veer which needs a big fullback QB.

BTW, in his 8th year at Cowbell, with HIS players, he lost to South Alabama and six other teams.

Swamp Donkey · Nov 27, 2017

lagator said:
Tennessee had the balz to tell their AD "you hire that POS we will force you out." but we are supposed to just take him hiring his crony loser? Screw that, Mullet and Stricklin can EAD now and always.

I wish but we will.give him two years then do it I suspect.

RocketCityGator · Nov 27, 2017

lagator said:
I was much less pissed when we hired butters. Butters was one of the worst coaches in our history, "and yet" he coached in 2 SECCG, something that shyttersfull never sniffed and never will.

So now the 2 SEC East Championships matter, LOL

MatthewM. · Nov 27, 2017

Swamp Donkey said:
That kind of offense? No.

Mullen runs a pretty specific offense, basically an old.1950s veer which needs a big fullback QB.

BTW, in his 8th year at Cowbell, with HIS players, he lost to South Alabama and six other teams.

So you’re telling me Corral is a perfect fit?

Durfish · Nov 27, 2017

Gatorup! said:
According to Brindise, who still carries a torch for muschimp, Spurrier wanted the job and was turned down. Interesting if true.

...and still carries a torch for Spurrier. Played in 13 games under SOS with 6 TDs and 3 INTs. Somehow he's a fly on the wall regarding AD boardroom conversations in Gainesville? He's entitled to his opinions, but that's all they are.

Swamp Donkey · Nov 27, 2017

MatthewM. said:
So you’re telling me Corral is a perfect fit?

No, of course not.

Corral, if he stays, will never do anything in this offense.

uhspencer · Nov 27, 2017

You guys really want a hundred year old SOS who quit on his USCe team over Mullen?

oxrageous · Nov 27, 2017

Durfish said:
...and still carries a torch for Spurrier. Played in 13 games under SOS with 6 TDs and 3 INTs. Somehow he's a fly on the wall regarding AD boardroom conversations in Gainesville? He's entitled to his opinions, but that's all they are.

You don't think he's had personal conversations with Spurrier?

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