Stricklin: Hiring a football coach more difficult than fans realize

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I guess you can read into it however you want but seemed pretty clear he was addressing the differences in coaching salaries over the years. It wasn't that long ago that Spurrier made history with his 2 mil/season salary with UF and now we have coordinators getting that much (lsu). It's a lot different now that everyone has million dollar salaries than before when it was a select few and those few jobs that could pay that high were coveted...now you can make that elsewhere so jumping jobs isn't as necessary to be financially set.

So when Spurrier was making 80x the average US salary @ his 2 million, that era was exponentially easier than when Saban is making 140x the average @ his 7 million. That increase is what made it more difficult? I don't think so.

Sounds like he is playing both sides of the fence (total Foley move by the way) and giving us the long con for an excuse 3 years from now so he doesn't get canned if Mullen flops. He'll give us the old "I told you guys 3 years ago about this." Now I do not think Mullen will flop, just seems like a milquetoast move to me.
 

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So? How is this germane to the point? I did not object to him pointing out the coaches salaries and that maybe someone might not move for a even a pretty high percentage increase. I objected to him picking any salary below his and saying you might not understand you little guys. It is poor form and a mistake on his part. I hope he learns from it.
I don't know how you read it like that other than you just want something to bitch about...
 

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The thing to know here is Stricklin didn't go seeking the media to vent his feelings. He was sought out for an interview, and in true form he provided frank answers to a variety of questions about the search.

Enjoy him for what he is. The first outwardly candid and social media-savvy AD we've had. I personally don't find it all that bad.
 

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Enjoy him for what he is. The first outwardly candid and social media-savvy AD we've had. I personally don't find it all that bad.

I don't know why, but when you add this adjective to any person's list of qualities it makes me want b!tchslap them.

It's fine to be social media savvy, but this is not anything anyone should brag about our admire in another person.
 

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I don't know why, but when you add this adjective to any person's list of qualities it makes me want b!tchslap them.

It's fine to be social media savvy, but this is not anything anyone should brag about our admire in another person.

You may be marginalizing it because it appears to bring AD communication "down" to the fan level. In my mind, that's good. Stricklin understands that it's part and parcel the role of the modern AD. He's here to administrate Florida athletics and communicate the message.
 

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He did? Then why have the Prez take a plane ride up there. Gonna disagree with you a little. I think the article even backs this up.

Knew it after that meeting. Just a projection on my part, I know. I do a lot of recruiting & it’s not uncommon to have great jobs & candidates not see the fit on both sides.
 

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I don't know how you read it like that other than you just want something to ***** about...

Really, I am not saying I took it that way, I didn't. I am saying some/many people will take such a statement that way. Thus it would be smart to steer away from such statements.
 

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It's fair to speculate on Stricklin's ulterior motives for specific statements. "Foreseeding" self-protective statements is fine as long as Stricklin successfully meets the challenges of his ADship. Remember, if Stricklin, Mullen, etc were perfect, us GatChatters would have nothing to post about. This whole GatorNation will have to take all the strides right along with Mullen & crew as well as with the new players-team. Hopefully, we'll be striding thru a promising O&B game and one understandable win after win into a good 'transition' season.
Grow Gators!
 

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There should not be any surprises in that interview to anyone who closely followed the search on this board. Kelly wasn’t a fit. Kelly knew it & Strcklin knew it. Frost was only going to leave UCF for Nebraska. Set those two aside and Mullen checks way more boxes than the rest of the available pool.

The reality of that available pool is at the heart of extant angst re: Mullen. Who might have been available? For those who think this is a disaster, who is your alternative? Mine was Stoops - but I doubt he was available. Zero buzz about him with ANY job.

Stricklin knew Kelly was a flight risk, but the opportunity was there, and you have to try. You don't meet with a candidate physical and through other channels as many times as they did without there being some level of mutual interest. What is the difference for Kelly who makes $6 million here, or $6 million in California (UCLA + Remaining NFL contract) other than where he wants to be?
 

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So when Spurrier was making 80x the average US salary @ his 2 million, that era was exponentially easier than when Saban is making 140x the average @ his 7 million. That increase is what made it more difficult? I don't think so.

Sounds like he is playing both sides of the fence (total Foley move by the way) and giving us the long con for an excuse 3 years from now so he doesn't get canned if Mullen flops. He'll give us the old "I told you guys 3 years ago about this." Now I do not think Mullen will flop, just seems like a milquetoast move to me.

Actually I would think the job is a lot harder now than it was when Spurrier was here. No only do the goals have become harder to reach, because to have a great season we are in the Sugar Bowl with a shot at a National Title, now it's the goal is you have to get to the playoff. The goals are outright defined.

The differences in pay isn't as huge, when Spurrier was making $2 how many other head coaches where even making a million? Now the head coach at USF could be making 4-5 million and the UF coach could be making 6 million. The difference in pay scale isn't as huge, which means other factors are in play. Do I want to live in a place like Tampa with a number of options for my family, or Gainesville, where it's Gainesville.

There are more teams with a shot at the dance every year, with the increase in conference size and the playoff.

That doesn't include the media, social media, and other pitfalls that happen with a 24/7 news cycle and tmz type reporting going on. I know there is a group that likes to pretend like Spurrier's teams were choir boys, but a lot of what they did didn't reach the media, that kind of stuff doesn't happen in today's media environment. Kid barks at a police dog, it's on national news.

Head Coaches are CEO's more than ever before in the history of college football. Having to deal with more "employees" and the media demands on both their "student" athletes, assistants, and quality control staff.
 

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Call me stupid, this seems to be a pretty reasonable assessment of the landscape today. What did you want him to say? I am superman. By sheer force of will and my personality, I can say we are Florida and get anybody I want. I don't think it works that way anymore.
 

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Really, I am not saying I took it that way, I didn't. I am saying some/many people will take such a statement that way. Thus it would be smart to steer away from such statements.
Well whoever does take it that way probably isn't smart enough to even make 50k a year
 

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Stricklin knew Kelly was a flight risk, but the opportunity was there, and you have to try. You don't meet with a candidate physical and through other channels as many times as they did without there being some level of mutual interest. What is the difference for Kelly who makes $6 million here, or $6 million in California (UCLA + Remaining NFL contract) other than where he wants to be?
Didn't Kelly actually take less money to go to UCLA? I thought he was in the mid 4's ?
 

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Well whoever does take it that way probably isn't smart enough to even make 50k a year

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By sheer force of will and my personality, I can say we are Florida and get anybody I want. I don't think it works that way anymore.
Well, Texas can. And ATM. They always hire the hottest coach.

But youre right, it cant be done. Just go hire some 21-16 Buttertoothed fool or a guy with a losing conference record and pray for the best.

It is our lot in life to be another Vandy. 0-10-1 forever! PRIDE in losing!
 

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Well, Texas can. And ATM. They always hire the hottest coach.

But youre right, it cant be done. Just go hire some 21-16 Buttertoothed fool or a guy with a losing conference record and pray for the best.

It is our lot in life to be another Vandy. 0-10-1 forever! PRIDE in losing!

You just made my point. Now all of a sudden ATM is in the mix. They've got the bucks. They are now a big dog on the block because they have $. How many NC's have they won?

I didn't say we roll over and play dead.
 

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You just made my point. Now all of a sudden ATM is in the mix. They've got the bucks. They are now a big dog on the block because they have $. How many NC's have they won?

I didn't say we roll over and play dead.
Bammer IS the game. OSU also. Then came Clemson and Clown Town. Then Pedo State and Meatchikin. Now ATM.

To win the game, you got to play the name.

Maybe some day we will decide to compete again.
 

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Actually I would think the job is a lot harder now than it was when Spurrier was here. No only do the goals have become harder to reach, because to have a great season we are in the Sugar Bowl with a shot at a National Title, now it's the goal is you have to get to the playoff. The goals are outright defined.

The differences in pay isn't as huge, when Spurrier was making $2 how many other head coaches where even making a million? Now the head coach at USF could be making 4-5 million and the UF coach could be making 6 million. The difference in pay scale isn't as huge, which means other factors are in play. Do I want to live in a place like Tampa with a number of options for my family, or Gainesville, where it's Gainesville.

There are more teams with a shot at the dance every year, with the increase in conference size and the playoff.

That doesn't include the media, social media, and other pitfalls that happen with a 24/7 news cycle and tmz type reporting going on. I know there is a group that likes to pretend like Spurrier's teams were choir boys, but a lot of what they did didn't reach the media, that kind of stuff doesn't happen in today's media environment. Kid barks at a police dog, it's on national news.

Head Coaches are CEO's more than ever before in the history of college football. Having to deal with more "employees" and the media demands on both their "student" athletes, assistants, and quality control staff.
Strick was not complaining that the coaches job was hard. He was complaining that coaches' salaries made the AD job too hard.
 

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Who knew Sticklin was a cry-baby millennial-type.? My job's so difficult, poor me,..you don't understand. I got played.... I'd take your job, pal, in a heartbeat...at 10% your salary and donate the rest to the charity of Chip Kelly's choice. Mullen's long slow grind brings us a Ship in about seven years after Darth Saban has already retired, instead of being forced into retirement by a Chip Kelly 'Nike Sponsored' Gator Juggernaut.
Step back from the ledge friend, it's gonna be ok...
 

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