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He took a bad angle and went low. $hit happens and made for the most exciting plays in the playoffs in a number of years. It's football and they are human.
The Fix is In
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He took a bad angle and went low. $hit happens and made for the most exciting plays in the playoffs in a number of years. It's football and they are human.
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You're right NV...my mistake.
When I was watching the Youtube replay, there was a yellow mark over the Vikings name in the score box.
It was actually a possession marker and not a TO marker...
If the Saints DB does make the tackle, it most likely would have been in bounds which would have drained the clock.
All a moot point now with one exception...
the Patriots must lose this weekend...I cannot stomach another Super Bowl with them in it.
(I guess I should have prefaced that with... "With all due respect"...)
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Okay, I'm not sure I'm buying the OP just yet, but indulge me here a minute. The NFL is a damaged brand. It's pretty hard to argue that the attendance and viewership numbers have not declined no matter what the league's apologists try propagating. Can you think of a more embarrassing situation for the league than having the Super Bowl not sell out? One sure fire way to do that is to have the home team make it in the game. If there were empty seats there would be no way to spin it. Again, I'm not sure that is what is actually happening; but I've learned never underestimate the things that happen when huge sums of money are involved.
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There is 0 chance the super bowl doesn't sell out... hell most of the tickets are purchased/ reserved well in advance and then what's given to the teams in the game and those fans will show up. There are most definitely attendance issues in the NFL but were any of the teams with all those empty seats actually good? Most of the pics floating around of empty seats were historically **** teams
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The Super Bowl not selling out? The NFL has some ratings issues and some attendance issues (due to moving, bad football, prices and overexposure), but this is true conspiracy theory if you think that the Super Bowl isn't going to sell out at a first time venue. For all the issues with ratings the National Championship Game for college football (also facing the same issues as the NFL) was a top three watched event the last year, guess what was #1 last years Super Bowl with the same issues the league is facing now.
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I can only assume the conspiracy organizers were on the edge of their seats since the "fix" came down to the last 15 seconds or so of the game. The alleged desired outcome depended not only on the Saints defensive back missing the tackle but also an outstanding catch by Diggs that included him keeping his balance before turning to run and score. I'm guessing the script would have called for the Saints to make the Vikings winning touchdown drive a little easier and not have it come down to the last play....and a difficult play at that. Someone was not reading the cue cards correctly.
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There are no less than 10 tickets available in the smallest sections. Most have a minimum of 30 unsold. No section is sold out.
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There are no less than 10 tickets available in the smallest sections. Most have a minimum of 30 unsold. No section is sold out.
So before the two teams are determined, where tickets will be sold to the actual fans (season ticket holder lotteries).... you are worried about 30 tickets a section or 10 tickets? Damn you are just looking for a conspiracy.
BTW:: ticketmaster immediately takes you to the resell site, NFL.com to the resale site... where are you finding all these open seats.
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That's venue direct. Given that. as The Dude was saying. typically people pick up tickets specifically for the purpose of resale...yeah, I think it is not insignificant that few thousand tickets are still available the week of the conference championship. As I said in my original comment, I'm not sold on the fact that anything is rigged. I could see how the brand embarrassment that would occur from empty seats at a Super Bowl would be something the NFL would want to avoid at any costs.
Anyone telling you the NFL isn't in real trouble if the trends continue over the next decade is delusional. That's no conspiracy.
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I posted about this in the thread that got moved to the political forum, they made themselves overexposed. Consumers have become apathetic. The downward tread started before the "protests" and "protests of protests", this is at least year 3 of 5%+ drop in viewership. They put bad football on Thursday night, a host of really bad games on Monday night, their main brand name teams have been up and down, and the low percentage of bad players are making 1000x more news than the players doing things the right way.
I posted about this in the thread that got moved to the political forum, they made themselves overexposed. Consumers have become apathetic. The downward tread started before the "protests" and "protests of protests", this is at least year 3 of 5%+ drop in viewership. They put bad football on Thursday night, a host of really bad games on Monday night, their main brand name teams have been up and down, and the low percentage of bad players are making 1000x more news than the players doing things the right way.
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Valid points. I also don't see the ratings decline as simply a byproduct of political protest.
Aren't the ratings also being impacted by the change in viewing habits by consumers? If someone streams the game and watches on a phone or laptop is that still counted in the "tv viewing" statistics? If they record on DVR and watch later, is that included in the numbers? I am amazed at the number of young people who will watch a game (or an entire movie) on a small phone screen. I acknowledge my old timer-ness but it still seems odd that extensive viewing is done on such a small platform. Sign of the times I suppose.
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Streaming is also impacting the ratings numbers, services like Sling and a couple of others are now included. But last I check (could have changed) PSVue, Youtubetv, and a others are not. Also people who view the signal online through a "not as legal" source (can't say I have never done this). If the game is watched within 3 days on DVR from a cable company I believe it is included, after that I don't believe so. I agree on watching it on a phone, can't do it. There are many factors involved.
