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How can a long snapper be rated a five-star player? He's one of the best 20-50 players in the whole country? And yet, he's only the 6th best long snapper of this class.... that, my friends, is a lot of bad-ass long snappers about to take the field. That's at least 6 5-star snappers!

He's rated 5* by the Long Snapper website. Don't confuse that with a 5* from Rivals.
 

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Agree, we need 2 of 3...but if we get Barnes we're also getting Montilus (and I'm fine w/ that). I just hope we don't whiff!!
They are most certainly a package deal so get 1 you get both...but we aren't getting all 4 of the lineman we are after and it's more likely we only end up with 2. Good possiblity we end up with NPF and Gouraige who have started to bond well during recruiting and all-star games. So which 2 would you want? Give me NPF and Gouraige over Barnes and Montilus.

We also have all 4 of them coming the same weekend right now which i don't necessarily think is a great thing but we have to take their visits when we can get them.
 

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I guess I understand if Barnes goes to UNC because his parents (or at least his mom) is a Carolina grad. That being said, the Tar Heels were awful this year and Fedora is going to be on the hot seat soon unless he turns things around quickly. Lots of their fans are already frustrated with him. Maybe Barnes would be an example of choosing a school and not a coach. Still, you would think having a former high school teammate at UF would carry some weight.
 

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They are most certainly a package deal so get 1 you get both...but we aren't getting all 4 of the lineman we are after and it's more likely we only end up with 2. Good possiblity we end up with NPF and Gouraige who have started to bond well during recruiting and all-star games. So which 2 would you want? Give me NPF and Gouraige over Barnes and Montilus.

We also have all 4 of them coming the same weekend right now which i don't necessarily think is a great thing but we have to take their visits when we can get them.
Maybe they will all hit it off and decide to commit as a group to the good guys. It could happen.
 

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They are most certainly a package deal so get 1 you get both...but we aren't getting all 4 of the lineman we are after and it's more likely we only end up with 2. Good possiblity we end up with NPF and Gouraige who have started to bond well during recruiting and all-star games. So which 2 would you want? Give me NPF and Gouraige over Barnes and Montilus.

We also have all 4 of them coming the same weekend right now which i don't necessarily think is a great thing but we have to take their visits when we can get them.

Yes, I'd prefer NPF and Gouraige (they're ranked higher). However, Barnes has been a UF lean for months (if not years). It seemed he was almost a given. Either way, we need freshman OL's in this class. We only have one so far, I'd prefer we end up w/ 2 more (3 total). We'll see...fingers crossed?!?

I guess I understand if Barnes goes to UNC because his parents (or at least his mom) is a Carolina grad. That being said, the Tar Heels were awful this year and Fedora is going to be on the hot seat soon unless he turns things around quickly. Lots of their fans are already frustrated with him. Maybe Barnes would be an example of choosing a school and not a coach. Still, you would think having a former high school teammate at UF would carry some weight.

I think Fedora's job is very secure....for now. He went 11-3 just two years ago. You're right that if he has another losing season there could be some rumbling. It just seems Barnes has been back and forth between the two schools. As far as Ivey and being a "teammate", Ivey was a HS senior when Barnes was in...what, the 8th grade? I'm not sure if they ever played on the same football team. But, agree the bond of having attended the same school...and playing the same position would seem to have some impact. I'm curious if Ivey is helping to recruit him. Also, the drive from Orlando to Chapel Hill is a b*tch! Not sure why his family would want him there vs. Gainesville.
 

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Florida offers Isaac Taylor-Stuart

Florida’s recruiting board has added a new name with five stars next to it.

The Gators extended an offer Wednesday to cornerback Isaac Taylor-Stuart from Helix High School in San Diego, Calif. He is one of only five uncommitted 5-star recruits in the Class of 2018.

Taylor-Stuart has a relationship with Florida assistant director of player personnel Otis Yelverton, and told 247Sports’ Blair Angulo the offer from the Gators shakes up his recruitment.

The 6-foot-2, 187-pound prospect plans to officially visit Alabama on Jan. 26 and Tennessee on Feb. 2. He has already taken trips to Texas A&M and Southern Cal, the presumed favorite.

Taylor-Stuart will decide between Florida and Georgia for his final official visit, according to Angulo’s report. He is ranked the nation’s No. 2 cornerback and No. 26 overall overall recruit in the 247Sports composite.

Taylor-Stuart is third cornerback to receive an offer from the Gators this week. They’ve also started pursuing 4-star CB Taiyon Palmer and Marlyand commit Noah Boykin, who will officially visit UF this weekend.


More top targets seen by staff
After meeting Tuesday with top-100 offensive tackles Nicholas Petit-Frere and Richard Gouraige in Tampa, Fla., Florida coach Dan Mullen and offensive line coach John Hevesy made their way to Apopka on Wednesday to see two more in-state linemen.

Mullen and Hevesy conducted in-home visits with teammates Ed Montilus and William Barnes, a top-50 overall recruit. They plan to attend the same college and will officially visit Florida together on Jan. 26. Barnes and Montilus visited North Carolina last weekend, and the Tar Heels are the biggest threat to the Gators.

Florida defensive line coach Sal Sunseri met with JUCO defensive end Dorian Gerald in California on Wednesday, while coordinator Todd Grantham paid a visit to Gerald’s parents in South Carolina. It was a power move by the Gators for Gerald, who is ranked No. 1 nationally at his position and plans to officially visit UF on Feb. 2.


News & notes
  • Mullen, Hevesy and running backs coach Greg Knox also made a stop Wednesday at Lakeland High School, which is home to 2019 tight end Keon Zipperer. He is a top-50 overall recruit for next year and the Gators are one of his top teams.
  • Florida lost a 2019 commitment from 3-star linebacker Marcus Tillman on Wednesday night. However, he said UF is still at the top of his list. The Gators now have six members in their 2019 class, which is ranked No. 7 nationally.
 

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10th or better is Mac-like.

Let's not candy coat it. If he can't manage to get a top 8 class by 2020 then he'll probably never do it and it would be wise to jettison him if he's going 9-4 every year. The bottom line is he is here to win and recruit with the big boys. Win, recruit top 5 or be gone. It's that simple.

Butters classes were 21, 12, 11. So cracking the Top 10 is NOT "Mac-like". It's 20+% better. Yes, Mullen should be able to get a top 8 class. But, to be clear, Butters never cracked the top 10.
 

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Butters classes were 21, 12, 11. So cracking the Top 10 is NOT "Mac-like". It's 20+% better. Yes, Mullen should be able to get a top 8 class. But, to be clear, Butters never cracked the top 10.

That fine. I get what you are saying. My issue is and always will be closing the talent gap. 9-15 isn't good enough. This year is a transition year so it's mulligan. I won't even point out that every national champion in this century has had minimum of 1 top 5 class in the 4 preceding years with most having two. Recruit or die someone once said.
 

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Florida Gators recruiting mailbag: January 18th edition

https://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/florida-gators-recruiting-mailbag-january-18th-edition/

Oklahoma Gator: With the rule changes I am a little confused on who counts against the 25 limit? Can you clear that up? I know there are two caps 25 per year and 85 max.

AS: The transfers don’t count as far as the 25 recruit class but they count against the 85 man scholarship. Florida is close to being at 85 so that’s why the two transfers counted against how many guys Florida can take in this class.

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MrB-Gator: Andrew….your best guess on who will the defensive line be in this class?

AS: Dorian Gerald is the guy that I feel best about joining the class. If Noah Jefferson is able to qualify than I like Florida’s chances with him as well. Florida still has work to do with guys like Coynis Miller, Malik Langham, Caleb Johnson, Caleb Tannor, Nesta Silvera and Andrew Chatfield.

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Ctresh: Do we have a legit shot at Nesta Silvera? Also, any chance Andrew Chatfield slips in this weekend with him?

AS: With Silvera, Florida has a shot and getting him on a campus is a major step in the right direction. Miami hoped to shut this visit down when he visited them last weekend but that didn’t happen which should be seen as a positive.
Andrew Chatfield is visiting Florida State this weekend but there’s some talk that he will visit Florida on the last weekend of the recruiting period which would be good news for Florida.

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Jpgator: Linebacker is a crucial position with Grantham’s 3-4 defense. Other than David Reese II, who else do you predict we add at linebacker, if any?

AS: Right now, I don’t see Florida having a great shot with any of the linebackers on the board. However if they’re able to get Quay Walker and Xavier Peters on campus than their chances of landing one of those guys improve. Peters is a guy that I can see Florida landing if he’s able to qualify.

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Macbgator: Who are the defensive backs we have the best shot at to close out this class .

AS: Florida will host Maryland cornerback commit Noah Boykin on campus this weekend and right now they have work to do but they’re a team with momentum right now. Also they offered Taiyon Palmer on Tuesday and I think they can get him on campus. Right now those two guys and Mario Goodrich are the only three planning a visit to Florida.

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Kirkb919: On paper how how do you think this class will compare to last years class?

AS: If Florida is able to land some of the offensive lineman they’re in for than I think it’s a better offensive class than last year. You get a quarterback who can play early as well. The defensive class still has some work to do but they have a chance to have a really solid class on that side of the ball as well.

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Gsacco: AS, I’ve noticed a lot of visitors coming and in-home visits have been with 3 star guys? Are these more back-up plans or do you see the class filling out with these guys?

AS: First, I don’t look at stars so I’m not sure which guys you’re referring too. But secondly they’ve offered a lot of guys to have options heading into signing day. A good coaching staff isn’t caught without options when they have needs at certain positions.

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BCNGator99: In general and not necessarily concerning Florida targets, which recruits do you think are getting more attention this year because they did not sign during the early signing period than they would have in previous years?

AS: Guys that likely go to smaller power five schools are now getting a chance at playing at the big schools because of the lack of unsigned guys right now. Some guys that may have slipped to a smaller school are getting noticed now when is years past they wouldn’t be looked at as hard. The counter part of that is that some guys that would’ve signed with bigger schools in February signed with smaller schools in December to early enroll or sign early.

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Anerdin: What happened with Quay Walker?

AS: Nothing at this time. Walker is still trying to schedule his official visits for the next three weekends and he will be the first to tell you that things are changing by the day. Florida had a really good in-home visit with him on Tuesday night and will go in-home again next week.

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Irgator12: Based on his twitter handle, Guapo, Noah Boykin can rival only maybe Jacob Copeland with the amount he tweets. Can we land both? Would love to see these two practice against each other.

AS: I like Florida’s chances with Copeland right now and I think a good visit with Boykin this weekend could get the Gators up there for him. Boykin is looking around hard right now and the Gators have impressed him.

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Juggernautz: Which positions will we be recruiting the hardest with NSD just around the corner?

AS: Offensive line, defensive back and linebacker are the three most important positions heading down the stretch. That has shown in where the coaches in particular Dan Mullen have been the last few days of this week.

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Matte984: Is it me or is this coaching staff absolutely working their you-know-whats off?? It seems like they are everywhere and working around the clock. Maybe I didn’t following recruiting as closely under Mac & Co but I don’t remember their efforts being so visible

AS: Mullen and his staff are leaving no stone unturned that’s for sure. Mullen is taking a shot at anyone that he thinks he can get on campus no matter who they’re committed to or leaning too. In recruiting, you have to at least try or you won’t land them and that’s exactly what Mullen is doing.

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Gator_n_Bmore: Do you think we take 3 receiver if somehow Marquez Ezzard or Tommy Bush wants in and Jacob Copeland & Justin Watkins end up on board?? Also in regards to Watkins which schools are currently our main competition?? I’m assuming our top 4 receiver board looks like Copeland, Watkins, Ezzard, Bush is that correct? So if Ezzard ends up at Ole Miss and Bush at UGA or somewhere else will the staff take a plan B for the 3rd receiver or be happy with Copeland & Watkins I guess is my question.. thanks as always AS

AS: I don’t expect Florida to take three receivers, I expect two more guys in this class. Right now I would say Florida has the best shot with Watkins and Copeland as both are scheduled to visit. Ezzard looks to be heading to Ole Miss and Bush has yet to set up a visit to Florida but that could change.

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Gator_n_Bmore: Defensive line is so important in the SEC and to me Coynis Miller looks like an immediate rotation guy, a great fit at DE in a 3-4, and the type of big athlete with huge upside that contributes to championship teams.. with that being said are we in the thick of it for him? Seems like it’s gone quiet since the UA game

AS: Miller visited Auburn last week and came out that visit saying he will stay take visits which is huge for Florida as Auburn wanted to shut those visits down. Miller is saying the right things but yes, it will be difficult to flip him from Auburn. But a visit can change that.

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Gator_n_Bmore: Any feel for how the 2019 kids are responding to the staff so far?? Obviously wrapping up 2018 strong is priority number #1 but as we know there is no time to get behind on future classes.

AS: The 2019 and 2020 guys are excited and like the message that the staff is giving them so far and several are already talking about visiting this spring for junior days. That will be key is who shows up.

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Akfloridagator: Anybody on commit watch this weekend ?

AS: Right now, I see Justin Watkins as the guy to watch this weekend.

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Edwinvincent: Noah Jefferson has come issues with Grades it seems. Is that all she wrote for him joining this class? What percentage of confidence do you have in him signing with the Gators?

AS: Florida feels good enough about their chances of him qualifying that they’re going to bring him in for a visit. I’m told that it’s close to him qualifying but he will need to work hard this semester.

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Cmoeller863: How much will it help us that Auburn changed offensive line coaches.

AS: It helps a lot because it’s so late in the process with visits to Auburn planned already for many of these prospects. Auburn will now have to work hard to replace their offensive line coach.
 

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That fine. I get what you are saying. My issue is and always will be closing the talent gap. 9-15 isn't good enough. This year is a transition year so it's mulligan. I won't even point out that every national champion in this century has had minimum of 1 top 5 class in the 4 preceding years with most having two. Recruit or die someone once said.

Rex, I totally agree w/ you. Did you see the post I put up a few pages back w/ the number of blue-chippers? We're around 19th, I think....and the gap is HUGE! If we beat UGA in the next two years it will be a miracle. Seriously, they can simply out talent us. It's disgusting what Butters did (or didn't do) in recruiting....
 

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You don’t “out talent” teams at the top levels. Coaching comes into play. If it didn’t, there would be no reason to play the game. UGA was better than us in 2015 and 2016 and we beat them both times.
 

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You don’t “out talent” teams at the top levels. Coaching comes into play. If it didn’t, there would be no reason to play the game. UGA was better than us in 2015 and 2016 and we beat them both times.

I agree, for the most part. Right now we aren't at "the top levels" (go look at the list). The talent gap right now is huge (between us and UGA). It's big enough that we can out-scheme, out-coach, play our asses off....and they still have significantly more talent. The talent gap right now is similar to a typical UF vs. Kentucky type match up (where we have much more talent and they hang w/ us). We've beaten Kentucky 3 of the last 4 years w/ (a) more talent and (b) luck. That's about where we are right now with UGA. Kentucky out-played and out-coached UF 3 of the last 4 seasons. It's going to take 2 or 3 classes to close the gap....and the way UGA's recruiting all we can do over the next two seasons is try to sign as many blue-chippers as they do, but theirs are ranked higher than ours (they have 3 of the top 10 players in the country in this class!). Look at the list a few pages back. We're 19th in talent right now....and the gap is huge (in numbers of blue-chip players).

The Miss State/Alabama game last year was a classic out-talent win for Bama. They got outplayed by Mullen's team, but in the end their talent won. And Miss State is a perfect example of a team not "at the top levels". That's who we are right now....a team NOT "at the top levels".
 

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Rex, I totally agree w/ you. Did you see the post I put up a few pages back w/ the number of blue-chippers? We're around 19th, I think....and the gap is HUGE! If we beat UGA in the next two years it will be a miracle. Seriously, they can simply out talent us. It's disgusting what Butters did (or didn't do) in recruiting....

Yeah...I saw it. I've been preaching it for years on here. We need Mullen to get a top 7 class next year and then top 5 the year after. Anyone that doesn't think recruiting or stars don't matter doesn't understand today's landscape of college football.
 

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That list back a few pages really says it all (Thanks BMF for sharing) crazy how far off in talent we have fallen. For us to truly get back to where we want to be we need to sign at least top 8, preferably top 5 classes the next 2/3 years. Need a top 10 class this year. That’s the only way to close the talent gap. I don’t care how good you coach, talent wins out usually in the end.
 

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You don’t “out talent” teams at the top levels. Coaching comes into play. If it didn’t, there would be no reason to play the game. UGA was better than us in 2015 and 2016 and we beat them both times.

I think Bama does to a certain extent since they literally get everyone they want it seems but yes you still have to have at least a decent coaching staff to make it work on the field.

I think there are a few coaches out there that could match Saban if they had the same talent level he gets.

Georgia scares me some going forward with how Smart has recruited since he got there. We have to hope Mullen can get us back getting those top 5 or 6 classes again.
 

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