Gator Basketball UF blows another one, this one to Vandy

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Are saying uva doesn't get their share of players? They do. Bennett has had way more time to build his team at uva so I'd say it's a wash. I'm taking white over Bennett any day.
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get into UVA? White took over for Billy Donovan, a coach with back to back NC's. Who did Bennett replace? Build his team? He's getting leftover kids with fundamentals and are smart. They had a transfer kid from Memphis last year that was supposed to be some bigtime post guy that was going to really help their offense but he was a dope head and Tony sent him packing....no second chances. We have way more talent than UVA and depth.

Its a stupid argument because Bennett wouldn't come to Florida anyhow. You guys have a false sense of what we'd be choosing from. We'd be looking at another mid major coach or a retread.

You're right, don't bother asking just keep settling for shyt because, seemingly that's what we do now. Hell, take FF advice and hire Fox....cause they swept us this year.
 
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Not me. Just saying people may not appreciate the Bennett system.

You are absolutely 100% correct on this point. This goes to my point that the large majority of our fan base in football and basketball is transient and not well versed or shall I say unintelligent, regarding certain aspects of the game. We all know that only one team can win the NC in those sports, so yes the odds are we won't. So our fan base would rather watch an undisciplined football team throw the ball 70 times a game, uptempo, trick plays, etc, rather than play good sound fundamental football. With basketball, why would anyone want to be 25-6 or whatever every year by playing great D, not turning it over, and winning a lot pf 60-50 games? Not many here b/c they can't appreciate great D and proper passing angles and screen setting. They would rather watch 35 3-pt. shots a game, regardless of the make % and not very good defense. Defense and fundamentals are not fun and entertaining to the masses, regardless of the sport.
 

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Egbunu should have just been honest and said that he isn't playing this year. Besides, I doubt he makes that big of a difference. He isn't the savior some portray him to be.
Agree, Eggy no savior but he would make a significant difference for this team. Unfortunately it appears he has no heart and is only interested in himself. If he ever makes it to the league I will take no pride in him as an ex-gator.

As far as White he's basically a quiet roundball version of Mac. Doesn't seem to have a clue how to actually coach, but stumbled into a round of 8 game on a miracle shot so everyone assumed he knew what he was doing.
 

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Its a stupid argument because Bennett wouldn't come to Florida anyhow. You guys have a false sense of what we'd be choosing from. We'd be looking at another mid major coach or a retread.

I agree with you. I mentioned that a few boxes earlier that Bennett is no longer realistic. Marshall, Enfield, D. Hurley or perhaps some lesser names are more realistic
 

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Bennet is very Muschamp-like. I don’t think he’ll ever make a run in the tourney tbh

I don’t even know who I’d want at this point. I’d love BD to come back but highly doubt it. Maybe Marshall sees an opportunity to get out of Wichita?

Who are proven coaches that would actually leave?
 

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If we fire White a year after an Elite 8 run, what kind of message does that send to other potential coaches that may come here? Rumors are building that he is going to Ole Miss and our players know that...
Same message it sent with Butter winning 2 SEC East titles.
 

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Agree, Eggy no savior but he would make a significant difference for this team. Unfortunately it appears he has no heart and is only interested in himself. If he ever makes it to the league I will take no pride in him as an ex-gator.

As far as White he's basically a quiet roundball version of Mac. Doesn't seem to have a clue how to actually coach, but stumbled into a round of 8 game on a miracle shot so everyone assumed he knew what he was doing.

What in the world are you talking about? He has tried to come back and his knees won’t stop swelling. He even recently decided to turn down another surgery so he could try to make it back. Get out of here with that.
 

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Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get into UVA? White took over for Billy Donovan, a coach with back to back NC's. Who did Bennett replace? Build his team. We have way more talent than UVA and depth.
Billy left a god awful roster behind. We do have talent but we don't have depth. I'm not happy with how things have been going either but i think we need to pump the breaks a little. If we're an nit team next year and we don't have any McDonald's all Americans signed , then i think it would be time to pull the plug. Right now it would be bad look following the season we had last year.
 

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Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get into UVA? White took over for Billy Donovan, a coach with back to back NC's. Who did Bennett replace? Build his team? He's getting leftover kids with fundamentals and are smart. They had a transfer kid from Memphis last year that was supposed to be some bigtime post guy that was going to really help their offense but he was a dope head and Tony sent him packing....no second chances. We have way more talent than UVA and depth.


Let's not get carried away here. The entrance requirements for basketball players are light years away from the standard entrance requirements.
Both UF and UVA are top ten public universities with very high entrance requirements and both schools have basketball rosters full of players that could never gain admission to either school as a normal student.
 

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You are absolutely 100% correct on this point. This goes to my point that the large majority of our fan base in football and basketball is transient and not well versed or shall I say unintelligent, regarding certain aspects of the game. We all know that only one team can win the NC in those sports, so yes the odds are we won't. So our fan base would rather watch an undisciplined football team throw the ball 70 times a game, uptempo, trick plays, etc, rather than play good sound fundamental football. With basketball, why would anyone want to be 25-6 or whatever every year by playing great D, not turning it over, and winning a lot pf 60-50 games? Not many here b/c they can't appreciate great D and proper passing angles and screen setting. They would rather watch 35 3-pt. shots a game, regardless of the make % and not very good defense. Defense and fundamentals are not fun and entertaining to the masses, regardless of the sport.
I alway enjoy your long rants on how intelligent you are. We get it, you have a hard on for ball control. Nobody around here thinks as highly of yourself as you do. You don't know dick about football or basketball.
 

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Let's not get carried away here. The entrance requirements for basketball players are light years away from the standard entrance requirements.
Both UF and UVA are top ten public universities with very high entrance requirements and both schools have basketball rosters full of players that could never gain admission to either school as a normal student.
Ummmm...........Robinson couldn't get into UVA so he came to UF. He played it as if Bennett didn't recruit him but he didn't bother cause he couldn't get him past admissions.

I'm not interested in arguing which univ is winning the academic tournament, they are both excellent. But if we are arguing that because UF beat UVA last year soundly that White is a better coach I am calling BS. That's all.
 

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I alway enjoy your long rants on how intelligent you are. We get it, you have a hard on for ball control. Nobody around here thinks as highly of yourself as you do. You don't know dick about football or basketball.

Maybe he doesn’t mean to come across like this...but then again maybe he does :lol:
 

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I alway enjoy your long rants on how intelligent you are. We get it, you have a hard on for ball control. Nobody around here thinks as highly of yourself as you do. You don't know dick about football or basketball.

I think that was a little harsh dude.
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Ummmm...........Robinson couldn't get into UVA so he came to UF. He played it as if Bennett didn't recruit him but he didn't bother cause he couldn't get him past admissions.


And I could list players that we lost due to academics to other schools as well.
My point is that academic standards do not impact recruiting that much in general. If that was the case then I doubt Duke would be knee deep in the "one and done" mercenary network in college basketball today.

Yes, UVA has very high standards but it is a tough place to build a winner due to other factors more so than academic standards.
They compete in what is typically the best conference in basketball and features two of THE very best programs in the country.
I admire what Bennett has done at UVA and he is certainly a better coach than our guy.
 

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Billy left a god awful roster behind. We do have talent but we don't have depth. I'm not happy with how things have been going either but i think we need to pump the breaks a little. If we're an nit team next year and we don't have any McDonald's all Americans signed , then i think it would be time to pull the plug. Right now it would be bad look following the season we had last year.


What?
Did you watch us play last year in the tournament?
Any idea where the players came from?
 

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What in the world are you talking about? He has tried to come back and his knees won’t stop swelling. He even recently decided to turn down another surgery so he could try to make it back. Get out of here with that.
Not what I heard but you believe what you want. Gak is the one playing on knees that need surgery. If Egbunu needs more surgery what on earth is he waiting for? He's definitely already decided he's never playing at UF again so what exactly would he be achieving by waiting?
 

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