Betting lines released for Florida's games vs. LSU, Georgia, FSU

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Betting lines released for Florida's games vs. LSU, Georgia, FSU

https://247sports.com/college/flori...r-Floridas-games-vs-LSU-Georgia-FSU-118515132

The Gators have opened as a 15-point underdog to Georgia on Oct. 27, a 3.5-point underdog vs. LSU in Gainesville on Oct. 6 and a touchdown underdog at Florida State to close out the regular season. The Florida-LSU has fluctuated significantly since opening and is one or two points in either direction at various other sportsbook.

UGA -15
LSU -3.5
FSU -7
 

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Surprised after last years game how they assume it would be a 6.5 point LSU favor at a neutral site.... nothing about LSU was that impressive last year. Not that we were, but they still have Coach O and we have cut some dead weight.
 

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Surprised after last years game how they assume it would be a 6.5 point LSU favor at a neutral site.... nothing about LSU was that impressive last year. Not that we were, but they still have Coach O and we have cut some dead weight.

The "home team gets 3-points" is BS. That's what people who loosely follow sports wagering think (or have been told by their beer drinking buddies who don't actually bet on sports either). Odds makers have a scale for each schools venue. "The Swamp" ain't "The Swamp" that "The Swamp" was under Spurrier and Meyer when it really was "The Swamp". What do you think Troy's home field 'advantage' is? Or Kentucky's? Or Vandy's? I bet Vandy get 0 points. Hawaii, believe it or not, under June Jones had the biggest home field advantage in college football for years. Boise's is pretty high too.

But, to your point, that is a tempting line. But now that they have Burrow, I can see them beating us - easily. Let's see: Joe Burrow vs. Franks, Trask, or EJ? That's not even close.
 

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The "home team gets 3-points" is BS. That's what people who loosely follow sports wagering think (or have been told by their beer drinking buddies who don't actually bet on sports either). Odds makers have a scale for each schools venue. "The Swamp" ain't "The Swamp" that "The Swamp" was under Spurrier and Meyer when it really was "The Swamp". What do you think Troy's home field 'advantage' is? Or Kentucky's? Or Vandy's? I bet Vandy get 0 points. Hawaii, believe it or not, under June Jones had the biggest home field advantage in college football for years. Boise's is pretty high too.

As I understood it, in college football between equal teams it's 3. But like you said Vandy gets zero, but that's also because they are bottom feeders... where just like you mentioned their are special places like Boise and Hawaii that should be a full touchdown.

But, to your point, that is a tempting line. But now that they have Burrow, I can see them beating us - easily. Let's see: Joe Burrow vs. Franks, Trask, or EJ? That's not even close.

Burrow is better than what we have... But I look at Coach O... in 2016, they should have beaten us at home. Last year we were the worse team going into the game and probably should have lost by a lot more. Coach O, appears to be their Muschamp, Zook, etc... a coach who will make you worse than your talent.
 

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Well considering we haven't actually played a game and we sit at 0-0, its all just talk and we have no idea what our team is going to look like or how it will actually play until September 1st, Lol
 

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The "home team gets 3-points" is BS. That's what people who loosely follow sports wagering think (or have been told by their beer drinking buddies who don't actually bet on sports either). Odds makers have a scale for each schools venue. "The Swamp" ain't "The Swamp" that "The Swamp" was under Spurrier and Meyer when it really was "The Swamp". What do you think Troy's home field 'advantage' is? Or Kentucky's? Or Vandy's? I bet Vandy get 0 points. Hawaii, believe it or not, under June Jones had the biggest home field advantage in college football for years. Boise's is pretty high too.

But, to your point, that is a tempting line. But now that they have Burrow, I can see them beating us - easily. Let's see: Joe Burrow vs. Franks, Trask, or EJ? That's not even close.
Bingo. The 3 point rule only applies in the NFL, not college. There is absolutely no rule of thumb in college.
 

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Well considering we haven't actually played a game and we sit at 0-0, its all just talk and we have no idea what our team is going to look like or how it will actually play until September 1st, Lol

It's called 'gambling'....or 'book making'. It's all speculation. But Vegas sure as hell ain't giving out free money. They're usually spot on.

I'm more curious what the lines vs. Miss State, SC, UK, Tennessee, and Missouri are. I suspect, pre-season we'd be favored vs. Missouri and Kentucky...and maybe UT. Missouri kicked our ass last year and they have a very good QB returning, not an easy win. Fortunately Missouri and SC are in Gainesville.
 

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Will the new coaching staff get these guys ready to play? Do we have a better playbook? Do we have better coaching? Do we have better S&C? Dump away
 

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Will the new coaching staff get these guys ready to play? Do we have a better playbook? Do we have better coaching? Do we have better S&C? Dump away

What are you talking about? This is about sports betting and the lines. If you're so confident why don't you put your money where your mouth is? These lines are open to anybody. You can go to Vegas, Reno, open an online account, wait until Miss allows sports betting in a few months, etc. What does 'dump away' mean? Like I said, Vegas isn't in the business of giving away free money. If you think those lines are so tempting, go make the bet. You'll either have a fist full of cash and can say, "I told you so" or you you'll be empty handed. This has nothing to do with 'dump away'. The people in Vegas have no skin in the game - except for making money.
 

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The lines could change once we actually see how the teams look and play and injuries factor in
 

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The lines could change once we actually see how the teams look and play and injuries factor in

Not "could", they WILL change. They can change up until 1 second before the kickoff (if heavy money comes in on one side, they move the line to get people to bet the other side - that's why it's called "book making" = they try to balance the books). In sports betting there is a "vigourish" (or "Vig"). It's usually -110, which means if you bet $110 you will win $100 (so you get back $210; your $110 that you bet, plus the $100 you won). If you lose, they keep the $110. So if you bet one way and I bet the other, the sportsbook keeps $10. Their goal is to always balance the books (having half the money on one side, half on the other side), that way they keep the "vig". Where they get killed is when they set a bad line and heavy money comes in on that side. Or something flukey happens; like a late, meaningless pick six, fumble return for TD, etc.

These are pre-season lines. And you are right to be cautious and question it. There are degenerate gamblers out there who will bet on literally anything, so that's why they set these early lines. Plus it gives them publicity (see, we're talking about it).
 

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Here's some other lines from my research (notice FSU big underdogs to Miami and ND)

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Week 1 lines:

Saturday, Aug 25
Wyoming -4 at New Mexico St
Colorado St -14 vs. Hawaii
Thursday, Aug 30
Central Florida -20.5 at Uconn
Purdue -3 vs. Northwestern
Minnesota -14.5 vs. New Mexico St
Wake Forest -9 at Tulane
Friday, Aug 31
Michigan St -27 vs. Utah State
Syracuse -4.5 at Western Michigan
Wisconsin -33 vs. Western Kentucky
Colorado -6 vs. Colorado St
Stanford -14.5 vs. San Diego St
Saturday, Sep 1
Oklahoma -23 vs. Florida Atlantic
Houston -21 at Rice
Ohio St -38 vs. Oregon St
Penn St -27 vs. Appalachian St
Duke -10.5 vs. Army
Nebraska -18.5 vs. Akron
Boston College -20 vs. Umass
Illinois -14.5 vs. Kent St
Rutgers -13.5 vs. Texas St
Indiana -13 at Florida International
Iowa -13 vs. NIU
Texas -10.5 at Maryland
Boise St -10.5 at Troy
Louisiana Tech -10 at South Alabama
Marshall Pick’EM at Miami Ohio
North Texas -1.5 vs. SMU
Vanderbilt -6 vs. MTSU
Arizona -14 vs. BYU
Arizona State -17.5 vs. UTSA
USC -27 vs. UNLV
UCLA -15.5 vs. Cincinnati
Auburn -3.5 vs. Washington
Kentucky -20 vs. Central Michigan
Mississippi -1.5 at Texas Tech
South Carolina -31.5 vs. Coastal Carolina
West Virginia -9 vs. Tennessee
California -6 vs. North Carolina
Washington St -4 at Wyoming
Oregon -28.5 vs. Bowling Green
Old Dominion -5.5 at Liberty
Notre Dame vs. Michigan -1
Alabama -27 vs. Louisville
Navy -15 at Hawaii
Sunday, Sep 2
Miami Florida -3 vs. LSU
Monday, Sep 3
Florida State -5.5 vs. Virginia Tech
 

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It's called 'gambling'....or 'book making'. It's all speculation. But Vegas sure as hell ain't giving out free money. They're usually spot on.

Again no, No, NO! A thousand times NO! Gambling is what customer do. Book making is was betting market makers do. They are very different things. The gamble is speculating. The book maker is trying to set a line where the public will wager an even amount on both sides.

No book maker wants to gamble, they want to take their cut off the top. I guess at times book makers get stuck with more money on one side than the other, but I assure you that is NOT what they want to happen.
 

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