Best RB duo in SEC history: Cadillac Williams & Ronnie Brown?

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This is a story on SDS. Cadillac Williams & Ronnie Brown, the best RB duo in SEC history??

There's a long story in the link, and an insert w/ the top 5 RB duo's in SEC history that I cut and pasted below. No John L/Neal Anderson in the top 5. Didn't John L. Williams & Neal Anderson go in the first round of the same draft (1986)? Hello!! They didn't even make the top 5 on this list! What a joke! Am I being a homer or should this duo at least made the top 5 duo's?


How Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown became the SEC's greatest running back duo of all-time

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/brown-cadillac-goat-sec-rb-duos/

Ranking the top 5 running back duos in SEC history

It’s been debated before and it’ll be debated again. But I’ve never had the chance to give my 2 cents, so hear me out.

I ranked the top 5 running back duos in SEC history, though I might’ve done so in a way that’s different from what you’re used to. To me, if you’re going to rank duos, you have to evaluate how they performed together as a duo. Average yards from scrimmage are huge. Doing things besides just running the ball was also important in my evaluation.

To a certain extent, I even value team success. Great duos take their team to new heights, and though two players aren’t the only factors as to whether their team wins, it should certainly count for something. After all, that’s why running back duos are duos in the first place. They might sacrifice some of their workload if it means providing the more efficient, versatile offense.

So let the debate continue:

5. Derrick Henry and T.J. Yeldon, Alabama
They were sort of a 1-year wonder as a true duo, but the 2014 season was impressive enough to earn a spot on this list. They combined for 366 carries, 1,969 rushing yards and 22 rushing scores. They were separated by just 22 rushes and 11 rushing yards while finishing with the same amount of rushing touchdowns. An average of 169.4 scrimmage yards per game for the SEC champs and Playoff participants was impressive, though not quite as impressive as the duos who ranked ahead of them.

4. Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson, Alabama
In 2009 and 2010, there wasn’t a better running back duo in college football. Ingram won the 2009 Heisman Trophy while Richardson ran for 751 yards and 8 touchdowns as a freshman. They combined for 204.9 yards from scrimmage per contest en route to leading Alabama to a perfect season.

So why didn’t they top this list? Well, part of it was that Ingram was clearly RB1 that year (he finished with almost double the carries) and the 2010 season was the year that Alabama fans try to forget. Ingram had early-season knee surgery and returned, but he only finished with 875 rushing yards (a little more than half his 2009 total) in 11 games while Richardson also only appeared in 11 games and finished with 700 rushing yards. And obviously, that was part of Alabama’s unfathomable 5-3 mark in conference play (10-3 overall). Still, 2 seasons with a combined 4,992 yards from scrimmage ain’t too shabby.

3. Darren McFadden and Felix Jones, Arkansas
One could make an argument that McFadden and Jones deserved to top this list. They had 3 seasons together in Fayetteville, where they combined for 8,294 yards from scrimmage and 66 touchdowns. That doesn’t include Jones’ exploits as one of the best returners in SEC history. The Wildhog formation allowed for versatility out of the backfield that few teams have ever had. In their final seasons, they combined for an insane 256.3 yards from scrimmage per game and they finished their careers with the second most career rushing yards by a duo before they became first-round picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.

But I have a couple of reasons why I didn’t put them at No. 1. To me, a duo means a relatively shared workload. McFadden had 192 more carries than Jones in that prolific junior year (which still only yielded a 4-4 SEC record, by the way). As efficient as Jones was, he only averaged roughly 12 touches from scrimmage per game in his final 2 seasons. That’s not a knock on Jones. He was extraordinary. But we’re talking about true duos here, and the usage numbers don’t quite reflect that. Don’t get it twisted, though. I’d take McFadden and Jones in my backfield all day, any day.

2. Nick Chubb and Sony Michel, Georgia
I know what you’re thinking. How can the most prolific duo in FBS history not even be considered the No. 1 duo in the SEC? They combined for 9,364 yards from scrimmage and 87 touchdowns. Originally, it was Chubb’s injury that opened the door for Michel to shine in 2015. They then operated as a true duo in their final 2 seasons with a combined 4,903 yards from scrimmage. Even the running back factory that is Georgia might not produce a duo that prolific ever again.

So here’s why they didn’t get the No. 1 spot. I’d argue that at their peak — the 2017 season — they weren’t quite as dominant as the No. 1 duo. They averaged 186.2 yards from scrimmage per contest, which is still remarkable, but not as productive as some of the other duos on this list. Part of that could’ve been because of how many blowouts they played in as seniors — that opened the door for D’Andre Swift to rack up 618 yards as the team’s No. 3 — and that they weren’t regularly involved in the passing game (I know Michel was capable, but they combined for just 13 catches and 126 yards in 15 games in 2017).

Chubb and Michel were the heart and soul of Georgia’s incredible runner-up season. In my opinion, they were the closest thing to my No. 1 selection, though they didn’t quite check all the boxes that they did.

1. Ronnie Brown and Carnell “Cadillac” Williams, Auburn
Yes, the G.O.A.T. of SEC running back duos was Auburn’s incredible 1-2 punch back in 2000-04. They had somewhat similar career arcs as Chubb and Michel with Williams suffering the serious injury that allowed for Brown to emerge (Brown ran for 831 yards and 11 touchdowns in the final 6 games of the 2002 season after Williams broke his leg against Florida). They didn’t really become a true duo until they both surprisingly returned for their senior seasons, which was in part because of new offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone’s desire to use a 2-back system.

Yeah, that 2004 season was something else. As a true backfield duo, Brown and Williams put that offense on their backs. Besides rushing for a combined 2,078 yards with 20 touchdowns, they also had a combined 55 catches for 465 yards (203.5 yards from scrimmage per game). Brown was actually second on the team in catches. And just in case that wasn’t enough, Williams was the SEC Special Teams Player of the Year. They truly shared the workload — go back and look at how even it was in late-game situations — for a team that went 13-0 and was robbed of playing for a national title.

If there’s a trump card, it’s that they became the first running back duo ever to go off the board in the top 5 of the same NFL draft (Nick Saban actually had the No. 2 overall pick in his first year with the Dolphins and called Tommy Tuberville to ask him which back he should take; he took Brown). Brown and Williams paved the way for other SEC running back duos. Without a doubt, they earned the right to be called “the G.O.A.T.”
 

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No tandems before 2000.. probably a young writer who has no real context for which he speaks... just a garbage article.
 

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I LOVE it when they rank stuff from SEC history. This is a good one too. I think they have the right duos on the list. But the Dawgs are too high. Henry/Yeldon and Ingram/Richardson should be higher. Michel wasn't great until the last year and Chubb got hurt. Sorry that knock you down. And also **** the Dawgs.
Cadillac & Ronnie Brown were pretty amazing. Does anybody remember them playing against us? Memory is kinda blurry but I think I remember Cadillac being hurt but Ronnie Brown was pretty hard to stop.
Sorry...went back and read it. Cadillac got hurt against us. Now I remember.
 

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I do remember how we sucked under Ron Zook in '02, but our defense turned the Cadillac into a Ford Festiva, or a Yugo. I think Brown may have been hurt that night.
 

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Lionel James and Bo Jackson was a better tandem than the five they mentioned. Yea, the writer is probably a millennial and doesn't know football existed before 2000.

And as mentioned earlier in the thread...Yes, Neal and John L. were both first rounders (Neal to the Bears to replace Sweetness and John L. to Seattle) after the 85 season...the year before Lorenzo Hampton was a first rounder with the Fins. So, in 84 that backfield had THREE first rounders.
 
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This is a story on SDS. Cadillac Williams & Ronnie Brown, the best RB duo in SEC history??

There's a long story in the link, and an insert w/ the top 5 RB duo's in SEC history that I cut and pasted below. No John L/Neal Anderson in the top 5. Didn't John L. Williams & Neal Anderson go in the first round of the same draft (1986)? Hello!! They didn't even make the top 5 on this list! What a joke! Am I being a homer or should this duo at least made the top 5 duo's?


How Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown became the SEC's greatest running back duo of all-time

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/brown-cadillac-goat-sec-rb-duos/

Ranking the top 5 running back duos in SEC history

It’s been debated before and it’ll be debated again. But I’ve never had the chance to give my 2 cents, so hear me out.

I ranked the top 5 running back duos in SEC history, though I might’ve done so in a way that’s different from what you’re used to. To me, if you’re going to rank duos, you have to evaluate how they performed together as a duo. Average yards from scrimmage are huge. Doing things besides just running the ball was also important in my evaluation.

To a certain extent, I even value team success. Great duos take their team to new heights, and though two players aren’t the only factors as to whether their team wins, it should certainly count for something. After all, that’s why running back duos are duos in the first place. They might sacrifice some of their workload if it means providing the more efficient, versatile offense.

So let the debate continue:

5. Derrick Henry and T.J. Yeldon, Alabama
They were sort of a 1-year wonder as a true duo, but the 2014 season was impressive enough to earn a spot on this list. They combined for 366 carries, 1,969 rushing yards and 22 rushing scores. They were separated by just 22 rushes and 11 rushing yards while finishing with the same amount of rushing touchdowns. An average of 169.4 scrimmage yards per game for the SEC champs and Playoff participants was impressive, though not quite as impressive as the duos who ranked ahead of them.

4. Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson, Alabama
In 2009 and 2010, there wasn’t a better running back duo in college football. Ingram won the 2009 Heisman Trophy while Richardson ran for 751 yards and 8 touchdowns as a freshman. They combined for 204.9 yards from scrimmage per contest en route to leading Alabama to a perfect season.

So why didn’t they top this list? Well, part of it was that Ingram was clearly RB1 that year (he finished with almost double the carries) and the 2010 season was the year that Alabama fans try to forget. Ingram had early-season knee surgery and returned, but he only finished with 875 rushing yards (a little more than half his 2009 total) in 11 games while Richardson also only appeared in 11 games and finished with 700 rushing yards. And obviously, that was part of Alabama’s unfathomable 5-3 mark in conference play (10-3 overall). Still, 2 seasons with a combined 4,992 yards from scrimmage ain’t too shabby.

3. Darren McFadden and Felix Jones, Arkansas
One could make an argument that McFadden and Jones deserved to top this list. They had 3 seasons together in Fayetteville, where they combined for 8,294 yards from scrimmage and 66 touchdowns. That doesn’t include Jones’ exploits as one of the best returners in SEC history. The Wildhog formation allowed for versatility out of the backfield that few teams have ever had. In their final seasons, they combined for an insane 256.3 yards from scrimmage per game and they finished their careers with the second most career rushing yards by a duo before they became first-round picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.

But I have a couple of reasons why I didn’t put them at No. 1. To me, a duo means a relatively shared workload. McFadden had 192 more carries than Jones in that prolific junior year (which still only yielded a 4-4 SEC record, by the way). As efficient as Jones was, he only averaged roughly 12 touches from scrimmage per game in his final 2 seasons. That’s not a knock on Jones. He was extraordinary. But we’re talking about true duos here, and the usage numbers don’t quite reflect that. Don’t get it twisted, though. I’d take McFadden and Jones in my backfield all day, any day.

2. Nick Chubb and Sony Michel, Georgia
I know what you’re thinking. How can the most prolific duo in FBS history not even be considered the No. 1 duo in the SEC? They combined for 9,364 yards from scrimmage and 87 touchdowns. Originally, it was Chubb’s injury that opened the door for Michel to shine in 2015. They then operated as a true duo in their final 2 seasons with a combined 4,903 yards from scrimmage. Even the running back factory that is Georgia might not produce a duo that prolific ever again.

So here’s why they didn’t get the No. 1 spot. I’d argue that at their peak — the 2017 season — they weren’t quite as dominant as the No. 1 duo. They averaged 186.2 yards from scrimmage per contest, which is still remarkable, but not as productive as some of the other duos on this list. Part of that could’ve been because of how many blowouts they played in as seniors — that opened the door for D’Andre Swift to rack up 618 yards as the team’s No. 3 — and that they weren’t regularly involved in the passing game (I know Michel was capable, but they combined for just 13 catches and 126 yards in 15 games in 2017).

Chubb and Michel were the heart and soul of Georgia’s incredible runner-up season. In my opinion, they were the closest thing to my No. 1 selection, though they didn’t quite check all the boxes that they did.

1. Ronnie Brown and Carnell “Cadillac” Williams, Auburn
Yes, the G.O.A.T. of SEC running back duos was Auburn’s incredible 1-2 punch back in 2000-04. They had somewhat similar career arcs as Chubb and Michel with Williams suffering the serious injury that allowed for Brown to emerge (Brown ran for 831 yards and 11 touchdowns in the final 6 games of the 2002 season after Williams broke his leg against Florida). They didn’t really become a true duo until they both surprisingly returned for their senior seasons, which was in part because of new offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone’s desire to use a 2-back system.

Yeah, that 2004 season was something else. As a true backfield duo, Brown and Williams put that offense on their backs. Besides rushing for a combined 2,078 yards with 20 touchdowns, they also had a combined 55 catches for 465 yards (203.5 yards from scrimmage per game). Brown was actually second on the team in catches. And just in case that wasn’t enough, Williams was the SEC Special Teams Player of the Year. They truly shared the workload — go back and look at how even it was in late-game situations — for a team that went 13-0 and was robbed of playing for a national title.

If there’s a trump card, it’s that they became the first running back duo ever to go off the board in the top 5 of the same NFL draft (Nick Saban actually had the No. 2 overall pick in his first year with the Dolphins and called Tommy Tuberville to ask him which back he should take; he took Brown). Brown and Williams paved the way for other SEC running back duos. Without a doubt, they earned the right to be called “the G.O.A.T.”

Clearly biased by time - all of them in the last 15 years. Also, John L. was recruited as an elite RB but converted to FB and was drafted as one and played FB in the NFL. He ran like a RB though. He remains one of the most overlooked and underrated Gator greats.
 
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Clearly biased by time - all of them in the last 15 years. Also, John L. was recruited as an elite RB but converted to FB and was drafted as one and played FB in the NFL. He ran like a RB though. He remains one of the must overlooked and underrated Gator greats.
John L. was badass.
 

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No smoother, crap your DB pants, receiving RB out of the backfield than John L Williams
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Fred Taylor and Terry Jackson.
Very effective but few remember that we were actually really damn good at running also. Not close to the best ever though.
 
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1989 Florida Gators.

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Hey, same roster.
 

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1989 Florida Gators.

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Hey, same roster.

And I believe that Rhett accumulated some stats. Well I just checked he gained 17 yards that year, before redshirting.

That is a bit of an oddity of the redshirt rules. You play a couple of games, accumulate some stats that count in your career totals, but do not use up any eligibility.
 

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