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This thread is freaking hilarious! Who gives a turd if Calloway was first or second round talent? Y'all keep trying to one-up each other on the minutiae.

Here's the deal...Butters was a crappy coach (likely the worst at UF since Wolf) who couldn't recruit and made up for it by alienating the press, playing favorites regardless of talent, hiring a staff devoid of intelligence and imagination, not wearing socks, and apparently brushing his teeth with Lemon Pledge. As the talent eroded so did his results. He was SEC Coach of the Year in his first year largely as a nod to the pathetic weakness of the SEC East at the time.

He has no one but himself to blame for his firing and was in over his head from the start. He was hired by an egotistic AD who apparently wanted to bring back leather helmets and salt pills and facilities to match, and it will take us years to dig out of the dung heap he left.

Both are gone now. Thank God. But they live on here because some doofuses keep trying to defend either or both.
 

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He has no one but himself to blame for his firing and was in over his head from the start. He was hired by an egotistic AD who apparently wanted to bring back leather helmets and salt pills and facilities to match, and it will take us years to dig out of the dung heap he left.

Both are gone now. Thank God. But they live on here because some doofuses keep trying to defend either or both.
Foley isn't completely gone. He's still slithering around the program and I believe still has considerable influence.
 

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Yeah, but if he played last year everyone would’ve feared him and we would’ve won all our games because of it.
No way we won all the games. But the addition of Callaway, Harris, Scarlett, Jordan Smith etc could have won the close games.
 

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This thread is freaking hilarious! Who gives a turd if Calloway was first or second round talent? Y'all keep trying to one-up each other on the minutiae.

Here's the deal...Butters was a crappy coach (likely the worst at UF since Wolf) who couldn't recruit and made up for it by alienating the press, playing favorites regardless of talent, hiring a staff devoid of intelligence and imagination, not wearing socks, and apparently brushing his teeth with Lemon Pledge. As the talent eroded so did his results. He was SEC Coach of the Year in his first year largely as a nod to the pathetic weakness of the SEC East at the time.

He has no one but himself to blame for his firing and was in over his head from the start. He was hired by an egotistic AD who apparently wanted to bring back leather helmets and salt pills and facilities to match, and it will take us years to dig out of the dung heap he left.

Both are gone now. Thank God. But they live on here because some doofuses keep trying to defend either or both.
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It is a gator sports board. What if items are discussed all the time. Is Mac's 3 year win loss record the worst in UF history? I have not heard that.

Using a 2.5 year sample size(that was clearly trending the wrong direction) isn't even remotely accurate. Charlie Strong is 0-1 in his time at UF and hasn't been unemployed (as a head coach) for more than a few days since he first took a head position in 2009. McElwain was/is a pariah in the industry and received virtually no attention for nearly 5 months from the date of his termination

As an overall coach, there is a strong argument that he is the worst, at least in modern history. Stumbling into a a few 10 win seasons, supported largely by a defensive cast left to you, doesn't change that. And as I mentioned above, it appears most, if not all, AD's agree. Add that to the abysmal recruiting and it's solid case.

Still think you should be working on route trees and footwork and not debating this here. September's right around the corner, you know.
 

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Using a 2.5 year sample size isn't even remotely accurate. Charlie Strong is 0-1 in his time at UF and hasn't been unemployed (as a head coach) for more than a few days since he first took a head position in 2009. McElwain was/is a pariah in the industry and received virtually no attention for nearly 5 the date of his termination. from the date of his termination

As an overall coach, there is a strong argument that he is the worst, at least in modern history. Stumbling into a a few 10 win seasons, supported largely by a defensive cast left to you, doesn't change that. And as I mentioned above, it appears most, if not all, AD's agree. Add that to the abysmal recruiting and it's solid case.

Still think you should be working on route trees and footwork and not debating this here. September's right around the corner, you know.
Mac definitely is not a good head coach. Looked at the winning % of UF coaches since Wolf, 6 have worse winning %s than Mac.
 

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Mac definitely is not a good head coach. Looked at the winning % of UF coaches since Wolf and 6 have worse winning %s.

You really should hop aboard.

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You really should hop aboard.

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Mac definitely a weak recruiter. He was on a short leash for his behind the scenes antics. His death threat comments allowed UF the ability to reduce his buyout. We took advantage. Mac had a better winning % than Muschamp who was a control freak of the offense but not a lazy recruiter. Things would have only gotten worse with Mac because of his laziness.
 
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