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Mac is a very poor man’s Larry Coker.This thread is freaking hilarious! Who gives a turd if Calloway was first or second round talent? Y'all keep trying to one-up each other on the minutiae.
Here's the deal...Butters was a crappy coach (likely the worst at UF since Wolf) who couldn't recruit and made up for it by alienating the press, playing favorites regardless of talent, hiring a staff devoid of intelligence and imagination, not wearing socks, and apparently brushing his teeth with Lemon Pledge. As the talent eroded so did his results. He was SEC Coach of the Year in his first year largely as a nod to the pathetic weakness of the SEC East at the time.
He has no one but himself to blame for his firing and was in over his head from the start. He was hired by an egotistic AD who apparently wanted to bring back leather helmets and salt pills and facilities to match, and it will take us years to dig out of the dung heap he left.
Both are gone now. Thank God. But they live on here because some doofuses keep trying to defend either or both.
Yet they did win the division hence people without axes to grind voted him SEC coach of the year. His laziness in recruiting and player development plus his big mouth eventually took him out in year three.No he didn't. He benefited from a horrible SEC East. That team had no business winning the division.
Yet they did win the division hence people without axes to grind voted him SEC coach of the year.
A great defense made up entirely of Chimp's players is what got him that award. I can't think of a single thing he deserves credit for that year, as the offense wasn't improved one iota.Yet they did win the division hence people without axes to grind voted him SEC coach of the year. His laziness in recruiting and player development plus his big mouth eventually took him out in year three.
ADs without axes to grind, even the boys with his old boss at Bammer, refused to hire Butterteeth for HC or OC even though there were 12 teams needing staffs. Bammer specifically needed both an OC and a WR coach and had no interest in Sharkraper.Yet they did win the division hence people without axes to grind voted him SEC coach of the year.
ADs without axes to grind, even the boys with his old boss at Bammer, refused to hire Butterteeth for HC or OC even though there were 12 teams needing staffs.
People without axes to grind gave Chimp an SEC coach of the year but never gave one to OBC or CUM.
It shows that people without axes to grind, like you, arent very good at analysis.
Remember that Muschamp lost many more games the prior year with those defensive and offensive players. The people with no axe to grind realize that UF had no OL but the offense without an offensive line still scored enough to upset #2 ranked Ole miss and top 20 team UT.A great defense made up entirely of Chimp's players is what got him that award. I can't think of a single thing he deserves credit for that year, as the offense wasn't improved one iota.
Hell, he should have given the award to Chimp.
I keep wondering more and more why I haven't banned you for life.Remember that Muschamp lost many more games the prior year with those defensive and offensive players. The people with no axe to grind realize that UF had no OL but the offense without an offensive line still scored enough to upset #2 ranked Ole miss and top 20 team UT.
Attrition whittled the UF OL down to nothing by season's end. You probably focus on the games when UF went against dramatically deeper Bama and FSU when the UF OL was kaput and Grier was suspended. Bottomline is Mac did more with those defensive and offensive players than Muschamp did the prior year. Somehow Mac beat Kirby (who had more talent) with Treon as QB. That is why the critics were saying Mac had no chance to win the East his first year. He did.
Remember that Muschamp lost many more games the prior year with those defensive and offensive players. The people with no axe to grind realize that UF had no OL but the offense without an offensive line still scored enough to upset #2 ranked Ole miss and top 20 team UT.
Attrition whittled the UF OL down to nothing by season's end. You probably focus on the games when UF went against dramatically deeper Bama and FSU when the UF OL was kaput and Grier was suspended. Bottomline is Mac did more with those defensive and offensive players than Muschamp did the prior year. That is why the critics were saying Mac had no chance to win the East his first year. He did. .
They looked that in the SAME division with many of the SAME players Muschamp went 6-5 the prior year. Mac dramatically improved to 10-4 and won the SAME division. Muschamp never won the SAME division. Winning is the bottomline in football. I am sure many of them watched UF upset #3 Ole Miss 38-10 and also the UT upset.One thing is for certain: Every asshat who voted for Butters for SEC COY never watched a single Gator game that year. They looked at a W/L record and made a vote. Lazy nonsense.
They looked that in the SAME division with many of the SAME players Muschamp went 6-5 the prior year. Mac dramatically improved to 10-4 and won the division. Muschamp never won the SAME division.
Of all the useless ways to waste time, arguing about whether or not Jim MacElwain was a good or bad coach has to be right up there at the top.
Its like arguing that the Hindenburg was a pretty nice mode of transportation except for....you know....that last part.
But we've already acknowledged that the Hindengurg was a horrible tragedy. It just wasn't as bad as being a passenger on the Titanic. The explosion alone may have been enough for a quick death, plus you had the views. Much better than slowly freezing to death while watching rich people row by in safety boats or promiscuous young women selfishly hogging an obvious "two seater" wooden door.
Look, they were both bad, and I'm not saying blimps didn't deserve to be sidelined as a result. Just be accurate. You clearly have an axe to grind with mid '30's German-engineered air travel.
I keep wondering more and more why I haven't banned you for life.
You mean the freaking guy that Butters didn't recruit, didn't want, and ran out of the program on a rail? Are you honestly using Will Grier to make your point about the great coaching of Jim McElwain?Stretch that memory Ox. Grier threw 4 TD passes versus #3 Ole Miss in a nationally televised game.
Mac started Grier. Grier's drug use ran Grier out of UF. Bad example for the team. Party drugs with the ATOs not a good example.You mean the freaking guy that Butters didn't recruit, didn't want, and ran out of the program on a rail? Are you honestly using Will Grier to make your point about the great coaching of Jim McElwain?
You've lost it.