Recruiting Cord Sandberg (QB) tells UF to take a flying **** at a rolling donut

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We could definitely use another dual threat QB. Look at the kid's stats from Manatee. He can play. He would probably be the starter from day 1.

Sure he would be the starter from day one. If you really believe that a bridge (or two) in NYC might be a great investment for you.

Now I want him to be given a chance, and if he wants to be a Gator he is very welcome, but to think he is going to save our program or beat out the other QB's based on his HS stats is well naive at best.

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No he's probably not more talented than Emory Jones. But he's probably mentally and physically more ready to play now than the other QBs. We don't have a lot to go off of yet either. I think Emory is the future. I would be totally fine if mullen wanted to just throw EJ in there and start getting him ready now.

So you would be happy to lose a bunch of games getting a QB ready for some future that might never come? No wonder we disagree on football.

And throwing a QB in can destroy his career instead of 'getting him ready". Practice and the film room are the correct means of getting ready, not being thrown into the game.

I bet you teach toddlers how to swim by just throwing them in the pool, instead of first training them how to save their lives if they fall in.
 

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This.



Recently a toddler was taught how to react if they fell into a pool. The final lesson was to throw them into the pool and see if they turned over and floated. Not the first lesson.

So to make a QB ready to play in a game you teach them first, then they can perhaps be a success. You don't "throw them in". At least that is my process, yours can of course be different.
 

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So you would be happy to lose a bunch of games getting a QB ready for some future that might never come? No wonder we disagree on football.

And throwing a QB in can destroy his career instead of 'getting him ready". Practice and the film room are the correct means of getting ready, not being thrown into the game.

I bet you teach toddlers how to swim by just throwing them in the pool, instead of first training them how to save their lives if they fall in.
That's how my mom learned to swim, except that it was a creek instead of a pool.
 

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This.



Recently a toddler was taught how to react if they fell into a pool. The final lesson was to throw them into the pool and see if they turned over and floated. Not the first lesson.

So to make a QB ready to play in a game you teach them first, then they can perhaps be a success. You don't "throw them in". At least that is my process, yours can of course be different.


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Kid flips us the bird and then one of the two swamp ass trolls immediately shows up to assure us he never would have helped us anyway.

Soooooooo predictable.
 

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Kid flips us the bird and then one of the two swamp ass trolls immediately shows up to assure us he never would have helped us anyway.

Soooooooo predictable.
They are right. He would at best be huge project and a coin toss as to whether he ever contribute.
 

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Kid flips us the bird and then one of the two swamp ass trolls immediately shows up to assure us he never would have helped us anyway.

Soooooooo predictable.

That is a safe response.

If a football team signs 22, ie 3 under the limit, every year for 5 years, they would potentially have 110 guys on their roster. They can only have 85. Of those 85 a number will never contribute. That means most of the signees in football contribute little or not at all.

So the random probability is that any given signee will not be a big contributor. Of course some do contribute.
 

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That is a safe response.

If a football team signs 22, ie 3 under the limit, every year for 5 years, they would potentially have 110 guys on their roster. They can only have 85. Of those 85 a number will never contribute. That means most of the signees in football contribute little or not at all.

So the random probability is that any given signee will not be a big contributor. Of course some do contribute.

During the Meyer era I did a look back at a 5-year block to see how classes actually produced. By produce I meant starter or regular backup (say in the DL rotation). It was a small sample, but the percentages were pretty low. 50% of 5-star guys, 40% of 4-stars and 28% of 3-stars made it to at least that level.

That doesn’t get into how long they played a significant role, but it seems to support your point.

Just a guess, but 22/year might not be enough to maintain a roster of 85. You’ve allowed for 5 per year. Maybe that’s about right but it seems low to me. 2-3 juniors to the NFL, a medical or two, a couple who get their degrees and don’t play, a couple of pot heads... But we also seem to get a couple of transfers in every year so that offsets it, too. (Just thinking out loud.)
 

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He can only be there for couple of seasons.

No font for sarcasm - which is how I meant it. I could be wrong, of course, but I argued against Burrow transferring in on the premise that I’m tired of going to that well. On paper he’s not as experienced or highly rated out of HS as Zaire. I’d rather see us develop what we have (Jones & Jones especially). We don’t need to keep slapping bandaids on the QB position.

I think he’s got 3 years of eligibility. I’ve been wrong before and if he turns out great at LSU then so be it. But even that wouldn’t assure he would have fit at UF, even as iffy as we are at QB.
 

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No font for sarcasm - which is how I meant it. I could be wrong, of course, but I argued against Burrow transferring in on the premise that I’m tired of going to that well. On paper he’s not as experienced or highly rated out of HS as Zaire. I’d rather see us develop what we have (Jones & Jones especially). We don’t need to keep slapping bandaids on the QB position.

I think he’s got 3 years of eligibility. I’ve been wrong before and if he turns out great at LSU then so be it. But even that wouldn’t assure he would have fit at UF, even as iffy as we are at QB.
Burrow only has 2 years of eligibility at LSU. They have been almost as bad at QB as we have. But they have had some very very good teams that were a QB away from playing for national championships. Sandburg has 5 years to play 4.
I wanted Sandburg for couple of reasons: First, I want 4 QBs in the room, second he ran the same system in HS, third he is more mature, fourth his completion percentage in HS. Did I think that he was going to come in and save us. No, I just wanted an insurance policy. He would not have prevented Jalon from coming and maybe he would have made a capable backup somewhere down the line. Now if he developed into a starter, more power to us.
 
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Burrow only has 2 years of eligibility at LSU. They have been almost as bad at QB as we have. But they have had some very very good teams that were a QB away from playing for national championships. Sandburg has 5 years to play 4.
I wanted Sandburg for couple of reasons: First, I want 4 QBs in the room, second he ran the same system in HS, third he is more mature, fourth his completion percentage in HS. Did I think that he was going to come in and save us. No, I just wanted an insurance policy. He would not have prevented Jalon from coming and maybe he would make a capable backup somewhere down the line. Now if he developed into a starter, more power to us.

I wanted Sandburg, too & agree with your take on him.
 

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