Changes you'd like to see in the rotation

gatorev12 · Sep 9, 2018

I think we have great skill position players at WR and RB. Best we've had since the Meyer and Spurrier eras IMO. Toney is instant offense and all our RBs are capable runners.

But without a competent OL and an average QB to manage the game, all that talent is wasted.

I don't know is Trask is the answer or not: but if he's the better decision-maker and can read defenses better, then put him out there. Franks isn't exactly lighting it up as a runner, even if he's the more athletic guy between the two. One thing I will say for Butters was that when Franks was struggling last year against Kentucky, Mac pulled him and put in LDR. We won the game. It should have happened last night, but didn't.

Not putting everything on Franks from yesterday since the defense was pretty bad for most of the evening; but our offensive issues aren't going away with him at the helm.

Swamp Donkey · Sep 10, 2018

I don't understand playing a nickel base at all. We play one passing team all season (Mizzu). It puts one of our best DBs in the box, leaving two terrible safeties up top. It also makes us much smaller, which is silly given that we've been poor against the run for years.

We were told that these lightweight DEs were moving to OLB. Why did this not happen? Three heavies up front with two hybrids on the field at OLB would sure help against the run. Are they just incapable of playing there? They sure as hell are too light and too weak up front with their hand in the dirt trying to set the edge.

Playing this defense, which isn't even the defense Chokeboy runs, makes no sense given our roster.

GR8 2B · Sep 10, 2018

Sec14Gator said:
Rather than fight you guys, I’ll take a shot at the question:

On D, play Houston over Jackson as long as Reece is out. Get Burney on the field more, perhaps as the star and move Gardner-Johnson back to one of the safety spots. Burney is much closer to a lb/dB combo that they want for that position and has looked good in the plays he’s had. I’ll admit this change would be more focused on run D and tackling over pass coverage, but that seems to be the current biggest problem.

On offense, I suspect Franks is the best option but we need to get our RB’s in space more on the outside, regardless of who’s in since we aren’t driving off the line for inside runs. Because that might involve more swing passes, I would also reduce Scarlett’s role. Last, I’d move Ivey to right guard, try J Taylor at left tackle, Forsythe at right tackle and Heggie at center. Johnson and Buchanan go to the bench.

If I remember correctly (and I may not) Gardner was the number 3 CB coming out of high school. He needs to move to Marco's spot. Put Burney in the star position. I don't know what to do about our safeties.

Omar's Coming Yo! · Sep 10, 2018

t-gator said:
Trask don't give us a better chance to win

Exactly. He looked confused against CSU. It would be JB4 all over again.

Omar's Coming Yo! · Sep 10, 2018

GatorJ said:
There’s nothing we can do on defense. We just don’t have the talent. Which is strange.

On offense - replace Ivey with Heggie.
Starting OL: Heggie, Fred, TJ, Buchanan, Taylor

Start Davis and Perine.

Run more plays to Toney. A lot more.

It's not strange Mac and Randy loaded up on 3* projects and here we are. I don't ever want to hear someone say stars don't matter. Problem is we have a 3* HC as well.

Omar's Coming Yo! · Sep 10, 2018

GatorJ said:
I think you misunderstood what I said. I’m saying I don’t think we could’ve done anything with rotation. As far as coaching and game plan there’s a lot we could’ve done.

Miss St fans said Mullen's game plan is great when it works but he doesn't know what to do when it doesnt. We all saw it first hand last night.

Omar's Coming Yo! · Sep 10, 2018

gatorev12 said:
I think we have great skill position players at WR and RB. Best we've had since the Meyer and Spurrier eras IMO. Toney is instant offense and all our RBs are capable runners.

But without a competent OL and an average QB to manage the game, all that talent is wasted.

I don't know is Trask is the answer or not: but if he's the better decision-maker and can read defenses better, then put him out there. Franks isn't exactly lighting it up as a runner, even if he's the more athletic guy between the two. One thing I will say for Butters was that when Franks was struggling last year against Kentucky, Mac pulled him and put in LDR. We won the game. It should have happened last night, but didn't.

Not putting everything on Franks from yesterday since the defense was pretty bad for most of the evening; but our offensive issues aren't going away with him at the helm.

Stop with the Trask talk. He's immobile. That OL would get him killed. If he would give us a shot to win he'd be in the game.

BruceWayne · Sep 10, 2018

Coaching should take 100% of the blame. I still think you gotta try something else at QB. I don't care if it's just Toney running the entire game. I can't take Franks taking another snap here.

InstiGATOR1 · Sep 10, 2018

rogdochar said:
Like to see Granthym moved to other team.

UF's defense did not play great. There were too many missed tackles and too little spirit and emotion on the part of the defense.

That said, UF's defense allowed UK to score 21 points. UF fans are so battered by the last decade of offense they seem to have forgotten that you should easily win a game if you defense only gives up 21 points. UF should have won that game something like 35 to 21.

And it is not like UK controlled the ball for long stretches of the game. UK had a slight edge in time of possession but UF ran 10 more offensive plays, 67 to 57, than UK. It should still be unacceptable to UF fans in general as it is to me for UF to have 10 points on the board midway through the 4th quarter.

Gatorraid81 · Sep 10, 2018

BruceWayne said:
Coaching should take 100% of the blame. I still think you gotta try something else at QB. I don't care if it's just Toney running the entire game. I can't take Franks taking another snap here.[/QUOTE

You better not watch Saturday, cause I'm sure Franks will be out there. Lol

diehardg8r · Sep 10, 2018

We have to run the ball first. Cycle through OL and RBs until you find something that gives us a decent running attack, that's the best thing we can do immediately to help Franks. Defense is a problem and I don't have an answer but not stopping the run first is a big mistake. Whatever it takes to get that improved is where we should be going. Takes more moving parts for the offense to execute a pass play than a run, particularly when we tackle like **** and we get zero line penetration and when the ball is in the air we have a better chance of getting a T.O. TOO much man coverage and we don't have the DB's for that at the moment nor pass rush. Oh....and the kid 45 or 47..quit throwing him the ball, he can't catch.

Gatorbait25 · Sep 10, 2018

Houston needs to start . Jackson needs to sit and be a special teams player. He shouldn't be on the field on defense against a good opponent unless we're up or down 5 touchdowns. I'm tired of hearing these loudmouths trash talk during the week . Looking here at Joseph and Gardner in particular. Law is correct regarding the nickel base. It makes absolutely no sense against a team that runs the football the majority of plays. The only thing we seem to be good at on defense is not committing PI penalties. We rush too far upfield against DT QB creating rushing lanes, tackle poorly across all levels of defense, have a poor understanding of down and distance and in general seem clueless as to what the opponent is doing. There are options though. One of which is replacing Taylor with Chauncey. Someone else mentioned bringing Burney along at the star position. He seems to like contact more than Chauncey , who just isn't a box player. He doesn't seem to like contact, but is much better in coverage than Taylor. In theory this would be an improvement at two positions. You could also move Joseph to a true outside backer, and scrap the star position all together. This would allow Miller or someone else to play at ILB next to Reese when he returns.

Homer J · Sep 10, 2018

Swamp Donkey said:
2.5 years. And it probably.wont be THEY for even that long.

Stricklin will be feeling extreme pressure this year after he gave a massive extension to Butterteeth, Nussdrunk and Nord for 4-7 and then hires Cousin Eddie for huge bucks to not get bowl eligible again. Huge liabilities, empty seats and falling revenue arent good for your career longevity, especially when your name is not Fooley and therefore the alumni feel no loyalty towards you.

Gotta love Gator fans that root against our coaching staff.

BMF · Sep 10, 2018

You've put out some good inputs in this thread and I agree w/ the underlined portion, except at OL and LB. The seniors need to sit or move (Ivey to OG is about the only 'move' I'd like to see - the others can take a seat). We've seen the same soft, garbage play from these OLs for 2, 3 years. It's time to see what the next guy can do. Heggie needs to get back ASAP. I'm fine w/ Buchanan staying at Center. Heggie to OG to replace Johnson and let Ivey take over the other spot. Forsythe is serviceable until we can find someone else.

I was very disappointed in the DL. Slaton got his fat ass ran over and pushed around. Conliffe was unimpressive and so was any other fat-body that went out there.

Savage has his work cut out w/ these soft football players.

Gatorbait25 · Sep 10, 2018

In my opinion receivers are the only group that have improved since last season, and a chunk of that is due to new personnel. Gonzales has done a nice job though. Literally every other staff member we've seen no to little improvement. Though Johnson I think has helped Franks some. The backs have been a big disappointment , which makes letting Seider walk even more maddening.

leogator · Sep 10, 2018

Omar's Coming Yo! said:
It's not strange Mac and Randy loaded up on 3* projects and here we are. I don't ever want to hear someone say stars don't matter. Problem is we have a 3* HC as well.

How well did our 5* play? Ivey was abused all night long and Jefferson was suspended, although he has been playing like a 2-3*. I have no idea how Jefferson was ever a 5* DE at 6'1"! What screams 5* at 6'1" for a DE. At that size you better be running a 4.4/40 and have wicked moves.

leogator · Sep 10, 2018

I have to give it to Kentucky. Their center which I believe was a 4*, totally abused our DTs. Their whole OL manhandled our front 7 all night long. We really have not been able to generate pressure from our base 4 for ever. I don't understand our inability.

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