My thoughts on the state of the program

gatormandan

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Its actually funny. The donk said about 30,000 times that Mullen does not pass the ball. Now we are discussing wanting him to run and cut back on the throwing. Im so cornfused...:confused:
 

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Running the ball is contingent on having men up front imposing their will on the defense, we have girls primping and dancing. Our line culture is one of submission not domination. Boy we could use the Great Wall attitude right now. Go Gators.
 

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Running the ball is contingent on having men up front imposing their will on the defense, we have girls primping and dancing. Our line culture is one of submission not domination. Boy we could use the Great Wall attitude right now. Go Gators.

Agreed. Someone in this program has to get sick of losing besides the fans...
 

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I rewatched the game and I have certain observations:

1. OL is not where it should be but Scarlett hesitated in a lot of his runs. Both Perine and Davis did much better. Maybe give those two more carries and then bring Pierce in in the second half?
2. Although Franks is OK as a runner, I would still limit his carries
3. On defense we got penetration on running plays, the players did not finish and thus left lanes for the QB and RB to run
4. Tackling was atrocious
5. No pressure on the QB during passing plays with rushing 4. We need to blitz.
6. We were not running a 3-4, we were in 4-3 or 4-2-5 on defense
7. I have no idea what scheme we're running on offense, definitely not Mullen's offense
8. We had a lot of success dumping it to the backs down the middle, I wonder why we stopped
9. If we had scored a TD instead of a field goal on our first drive and were not denied the field goal we could have won the game in spite of how badly we played.
 

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What's up everyone...I had to step back after the loss Saturday so I could fully take in the loss and rewatch the game before I could put my 2 cents in.

Well....here we go!

1) this loss isn't on Stricklin or the staff! This is on the previous AD and his last garbage hire.

Have to disagree. This loss is all on Mullen and staff. They did not have the team ready to play and made ZERO adjustments during the game.. I do agree that Fooley made garbage hires...
 

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So a year later we can't even compete with em? With the same freaking players. Shouldn't we have gotten better this off season, regardless of whose roster it is?

Can’t even compete with them? That last TD inflated what was a 1 possession game. A questionable FG call has us within 1. You can say it shouldn’t have been close with a team like Kentucky but to say we got blown out is utter bull****
 

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1) Our offensive game-scheme was not intensely focused.
2) Have FF throw darts in the flat to shifty, speed-skill guys : Grimes, Jefferson, Toney 'til D comes up.
3) Go fierce on the runs. If blockers fail, chew'em out on the sidelines so they get determined not to fail.
4) Gotta use "chew-outs" to push these guys away from lackluster roles. (then run it again & again)
5) Wrap-up tackles needs to be pounded into the D's psyche. (at practices & reinforced during games)
6) Effective coaching brings out effective playing.
7) If Charleston Southern game was a false positive, then this UK game can be a false negative.
8) Vs UK, we probly saw coaching deficits that come with taking over Mcboys.?? Fakelwain left ruins.
9) Design plays on specific players' probabilities - a stupid play to Toney turns into a brilliant one.
10) Show the players (in practice) that you'll replace them to find one that better fulfills the demand.
11) Consider that we don't have a first string OL or DL ? So search, experiment, find one, improve one.
12) We put all eggs in FF basket, when Toney with same amount of QB practice could be much better.
13) Such talk of sticking frosh EJ at QB, when Toney has shown more as QB both in H.S. & in CFB.??
14) "Things" could suddenly click-right and Franks-led Gators can win -- but got to run-dominate.
15) Yep, it's a big mess. But can it be cleaned up ? Yes, because more challenging games approach.
 
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In accordance with "CG's corollary" "go Pierce on the run", I'm wondering if we are blind to talents ready to burst forth?
Damien Pierce might quickly show that he is a defense's plague. He looks like he runs as strong as UK's Snell.
M.Davis glides through for extra yards. K.Toney makes people miss resulting in 5+ yard gains. Feature those with help from Perrine, with help from sure short passes from Franks to speedsters Jefferson, Grimes, Massey, etc. and we've got drive-sustaining results.Krull might be a star-for-us TE.?
Mullen is not using the best we've got the best he can.
 

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Tell me how well we were doing running between the tackles. Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but rather I am trying to point how hemmed in the guy is with this group of athletes.

If he fails over the next two recruiting classes, but esp this next one, to fill those spaces with the athletes he needs, I'll be right there with you heckling the guy.

I'm gonna give him his chance first.
Yeah, we weren't killing it running the ball but we averaged over 4.4 yds per carry. Perine averaged 8.5. The play calling was bad and put way too much on FF arm who clearly can't handle carrying the team.

Anyone should be able to see we should have tried to run the ball more. The RB's only had 18 carries total in the game and you think that is fine? Okay, I guess we just have to wait a couple years before we try to establish a run game:confused:.

18 carries split among 4 backs while Franks throws the ball 40 times a game and runs 10 times a game is obviously all we can do, no choice, because, you know, Mac. Thanks for enlightening us:banghead:.
 

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Yeah, we weren't killing it running the ball but we averaged over 4.4 yds per carry. Perine averaged 8.5. The play calling was bad and put way too much on FF arm who clearly can't handle carrying the team.

Anyone should be able to see we should have tried to run the ball more. The RB's only had 18 carries total in the game and you think that is fine? Okay, I guess we just have to wait a couple years before we try to establish a run game:confused:.

18 carries split among 4 backs while Franks throws the ball 40 times a game and runs 10 times a game is obviously all we can do, no choice, because, you know, Mac. Thanks for enlightening us:banghead:.
The back and forth with NV began over how the running game looked early on, which was at best average. We got very little going on the ground and least of all consistency on the ground.

I probably shouldn't have to remind you, but Mullen's offense is a tad bit quarterbackcentric.
 

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The back and forth with NV began over how the running game looked early on, which was at best average. We got very little going on the ground and least of all consistency on the ground.

I probably shouldn't have to remind you, but Mullen's offense is a tad bit quarterbackcentric.
Which, when FF is your QB, leads to getting your dik stomped in by UK at home when you let Franks run or pass on 80% of your offensive plays. Hence, Mullen sucks and can't make in game adjustments.

As an aside, see how bad MSU's offense and defense is struggling now that Mullenz and the dwag-chocker are gone? I don't know how they will ever get by without those stalwarts of O & D play-calling.
 

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Which, when FF is your QB, leads to getting your dik stomped in by UK at home when you let Franks run or pass on 80% of your offensive plays. Hence, Mullen sucks and can't make in game adjustments.

As an aside, see how bad MSU's offense and defense is struggling now that Mullenz and the dwag-chocker are gone? I don't know how they will ever get by without those stalwarts of O & D play-calling.
My job isn't to defend Mullen but rather the truth. Franks is a raw passer and an average runner who's at his best at full speed. He has zero moves behind the LOS. I'm gonna dare him to beat me if I'm the opposing DC. I think Kentucky made an early and smart move to stop the run.
 

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BTW, Kentucky's commitment to stop fhe run really looked smart when Franks got rattled. He all but took himself and UF out of the game.
 

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Talked to an insider today and guess CeCe Jefferson isn't just grades. Yesterday was the first day he went to class all semester. He's checked out and ready for the draft next year. Leaving after fall semester....Mac just created an environment of laziness and no accountability
 

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Talked to an insider today and guess CeCe Jefferson isn't just grades. Yesterday was the first day he went to class all semester. He's checked out and ready for the draft next year. Leaving after fall semester....Mac just created an environment of laziness and no accountability
Mullen needs to kick him off the team. He needs to set an example and show what happens when you don't do what your supposed to do. Like WM did with Janoris.
 

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His point is Kentucky outplayed us last year, just like Tennessee. That was a 2-9 team out there.

UF played the following close games last year:

1. UF 26 UTn 20 W
2. UF 28 UK 27 W
3. UF 16 LSU 17 L
4. UF 17 aTm 19 L

UF won half of those close games which is about what you would expect. So UF was not a 2-9 team nor a 6-7 team, but a team that won about the number of close games you would expect.

There was another one score game:

5. UF 20 SoCar 28 L

which if you include UF was a bit unlucky.
 

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Tell me how well we were doing running between the tackles. Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but rather I am trying to point how hemmed in the guy is with this group of athletes.

If he fails over the next two recruiting classes, but esp this next one, to fill those spaces with the athletes he needs, I'll be right there with you heckling the guy.

I'm gonna give him his chance first.

Actually, when we used Davis at RB rather than Scarlett we had good success running the ball. The lack of adjustments by the staff are concerning. I posted in the thread at halftime that we needed to stop the run in the 2nd half or we’d be in trouble. We came out and played the same ****ty scheme on defense and lost. Ditto for the offense and Franks. Why not either try a new QB or at least use some of our better weapons like K. Toney more? He’ll, even if it was just a few series to try and shake things up. That’s poor coaching. Players deserve blame, too, but to not make adjustments is inexcusable.
 

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I don't want to rain on the parade, but I feel like this could be a lyric from the Bon Jovi song Wanted Dead or Alive where he says "only the names will change." Literally feel like the same stuff was said about Musdump and Ole YellaTeeth.
 

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