How did Miss St do versus ranked opponents prior to Mullen?Mullen and Mississippi State went 7-34 against ranked opponents. Take out Bama and it's still 7-25. That still sucks. We won't mention his historical AP record of 2-17 vs ranked teams while ranked. It's the worst in AP history. He sounds like a real gamer to me.
Can we wait til after Sat at least.Mullen and Mississippi State went 7-34 against ranked opponents. Take out Bama and it's still 7-25. That still sucks. We won't mention his historical AP record of 2-17 vs ranked teams while ranked. It's the worst in AP history. He sounds like a real gamer to me.
It's horrible and no matter how much one wants to fall in love with CDM there are those nagging facts that humble us- he and his staff were not very good... there. Many will tell you he was simply amazing at Miss St but the record and results do not support that. Even the year they were ranked #1 it was short lived and they finished the season ranked 18th. That's not terrible but it was the highwater mark of his tenure.Mullen and Mississippi State went 7-34 against ranked opponents. Take out Bama and it's still 7-25. That still sucks. We won't mention his historical AP record of 2-17 vs ranked teams while ranked. It's the worst in AP history. He sounds like a real gamer to me.
That is irrelevant. He had a losing season in 2016. ?How did Miss St do versus ranked opponents prior to Mullen?
MSU ceiling is where Jackie Sherrill took them. The seccg. He even had a better record than Mullen til the wheels fell off beginning in 01. Saban took Michigan St to their ceiling at the time. Dantonio has done a better job. Also Mullen doesn't have the resources and recruiting abilities of a Saban. Just look at his recruiting here already. He's getting the good but not elite players because he's an awkward Ahole.
So Mississippi states ceiling is what? National titles? You’re just making stuff up
Michigan State just went to the playoff and won the big 10 championship 3 seasons ago . So no, what Saban did was not their ceiling.
MSU ceiling is where Jackie Sherrill took them. The seccg. He even had a better record than Mullen til the wheels fell off beginning in 01. Saban took Michigan St to their ceiling at the time. Dantonio has done a better job. Also Mullen doesn't have the resources and recruiting abilities of a Saban. Just look at his recruiting here already. He's getting the good but not elite players because he's an awkward Ahole.
Larry Fedora
43-36(.544) 27-21(.563)
Mike Gundy
117-53(.688) 69-42(.622)
King of the hindsight call.
The funniest part is you’re showing me his total numbers and not his first year number. Where he lost to UAB. At LSU. This board would have fired him after one game. We would have Dougie and Omar showing us his record at MSU and how there’s no chance on planet earth he could ever get better. We’d have Swonkey fist deep in a bottle of lube and a fifth of jack beating off to the thought of another coaching search. No chance in hell, moving to a team in a talent rich state with a marginally better football history and a want to be successful, would he ever be successful. Nope. No way.
The first job any of us take in life should be the only job because we simply can’t improve. Oh wait.
Again, you aren't looking at anything else. Why are you comparing Mississippi State in a blank statistical breakdown to top tier programs when that program isn't really comparable to anything in this conference other than Ole Miss, Vandy, and Kentucky? the only other programs with history to compare winning percentages to. To think that program is a plug and play and win at the highest levels is beyond laughable. To not think a program with massive talent deficiencies, with one of the worst educations in the country, no history whatsoever to point to, little to no financial support until Mullen and Stricklin started it, is suppose to somehow miraculously win at a level that's never been seen before, I just don't know what to say.Go back to look at the break down of his record, why is Mullen ranked first in drop from out of conference winning percentage to conference winning percentage (-14.2%).
Again, you aren't looking at anything else. Why are you comparing Mississippi State in a blank statistical breakdown to top tier programs when that program isn't really comparable to anything in this conference other than Ole Miss, Vandy, and Kentucky? the only other programs with history to compare winning percentages to. To think that program is a plug and play and win at the highest levels is beyond laughable. To not think a program with massive talent deficiencies, with one of the worst educations in the country, no history whatsoever to point to, little to no financial support until Mullen and Stricklin started it, is suppose to somehow miraculously win at a level that's never been seen before, I just don't know what to say.
A program like MSU is going to have peaks and valleys with winning. There's a zero percent chance, and yes, this number is dictated on 100 something years of MSU football, that success can be sustained on an every year basis simply because the talent void is so deep. Generation classes, like what MSU has now, can bring MSU up to a level of national competition.
Again, to think that it is a fact that Mullen, in a larger talent pool, with millions in more support, history, etc etc etc can't be more successful then you're a fool.
I'm not saying he will or he won't, but nothing says that he can't. Nothing.
Who's deflecting? No chance you even read this. Link me. He won more bowl games in their history than any other coach. Beat more ranked teams in their history. Beat Georgia, Florida, and Michigan 52-14 in his second year there and finished 15th. He has their greatest season in school history. I've provided way more insight than you have. You are selecting small amounts to further your narrative. You can keep coming up with whatever stat you want. I don't care anymore. Be a negative brat all you wantI compared Mississippi State to Mississippi State with that stat. You are deflecting now.
MSU ceiling is where Jackie Sherrill took them. The seccg. He even had a better record than Mullen til the wheels fell off beginning in 01. Saban took Michigan St to their ceiling at the time. Dantonio has done a better job. Also Mullen doesn't have the resources and recruiting abilities of a Saban. Just look at his recruiting here already. He's getting the good but not elite players because he's an awkward Ahole.
Who's deflecting? No chance you even read this. Link me. He won more bowl games in their history than any other coach. Beat more ranked teams in their history. Beat Georgia, Florida, and Michigan 52-14 in his second year there and finished 15th. He has their greatest season in school history. I've provided way more insight than you have. You are selecting small amounts to further your narrative. You can keep coming up with whatever stat you want. I don't care anymore. Be a negative brat all you want
Now Ox is owning you Donkey.Larry Fedora is the man.
Now Ox is owning you Donkey.
You might as well leave this thread while you still have a shred of decency left. It has not gone well for you.
Add an extra easy directional school win to Sherrills yearly win total. 12th game added in 05 or 06Again, you aren't looking at anything else. Why are you comparing Mississippi State in a blank statistical breakdown to top tier programs when that program isn't really comparable to anything in this conference other than Ole Miss, Vandy, and Kentucky? the only other programs with history to compare winning percentages to. To think that program is a plug and play and win at the highest levels is beyond laughable. To not think a program with massive talent deficiencies, with one of the worst educations in the country, no history whatsoever to point to, little to no financial support until Mullen and Stricklin started it, is suppose to somehow miraculously win at a level that's never been seen before, I just don't know what to say.
You guys bring up Jackie Sherril, here's Jackies seasons:
7 wins
7 wins
3 wins
8 wins
3 wins
5 wins
7 wins
8 wins
10 wins
8 wins
3 wins
3 wins
2 wins
Mullens:
5 wins
9 wins
7 wins
8 wins
7 wins
10 wins
9 wins
6 wins
8 wins
A program like MSU is going to have peaks and valleys with winning. There's a zero percent chance, and yes, this number is dictated on 100 something years of MSU football, that success can be sustained on an every year basis simply because the talent void is so deep. Generation classes, like what MSU has now, can bring MSU up to a level of national competition.
Again, to think that it is a fact that Mullen, in a larger talent pool, with millions in more support, history, etc etc etc can't be more successful then you're a fool.
I'm not saying he will or he won't, but nothing says that he can't. Nothing.
Oh sweet so those 2 win and 3 year wins look even more impressiveAdd an extra easy directional school win to Sherrills yearly win total. 12th game added in 05 or 06
That wasn't my point you just failed to bring it up so those numbers would look better. Not to mention way less bowls back then. Another point skewed. I'm not even saying he didnt do ok there but saying stupid crap like Saban or Lombardi couldn't have done better is just trying to rationalize the hire. Not sure if I've asked you but do you think we hire Mullen if Stricklin wasn't AD? Why or why not?Oh sweet so those 2 win and 3 year wins look even more impressive
Not sure if I've asked you but do you think we hire Mullen if Stricklin wasn't AD? Why or why not?