Franks thinks taunting own fans is the way to win them back

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My own 2cents are this: after the game, Gator Nation SHOULD have been talking about the team getting the win and Franks having one of his better games as a Gator QB. He ran the ball with purpose and determination--arguably his most effective day rushing as a Gator--and didn't turn the ball over while making enough throws to keep the ball moving.

Were it not for his actions, the overwhelming majority of fans would have been praising his performance.

Instead, he reminded everyone why he is roundly disliked with his immaturity and poor decision making.
BOOM, exactly. I WANT to like Franks, but he keeps making it awfully hard - unnecessarily in this case.
 

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My own 2cents are this: after the game, Gator Nation SHOULD have been talking about the team getting the win and Franks having one of his better games as a Gator QB. He ran the ball with purpose and determination--arguably his most effective day rushing as a Gator--and didn't turn the ball over while making enough throws to keep the ball moving
:exactly: instead of denigrating the guy that scored the winning TD. He did have one TO
 

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It's currently a conundrum for the staff. Dan has to know he needs a better QB than Franks
in order to grab a playoff spot, and to win the conference. The problem is he is currently the best of our options. That of course
can change through recruiting , and development of Emory through the bowl practices and spring ball. It's also obvious
we have weaknesses on the other side of the ball. We should be better in the secondary next year,but lose our best pass rushers
and still have linebackers that can't cover. Until these things change expecting more than 8-9 wins isn't realistic.
 

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It's currently a conundrum for the staff. Dan has to know he needs a better QB than Franks
in order to grab a playoff spot, and to win the conference. The problem is he is currently the best of our options. That of course
can change through recruiting , and development of Emory through the bowl practices and spring ball. It's also obvious
we have weaknesses on the other side of the ball. We should be better in the secondary next year,but lose our best pass rushers
and still have linebackers that can't cover. Until these things change expecting more than 8-9 wins isn't realistic.

We are at least two recruiting cycles away if they are Florida (top 5) classes from competing for a playoff spot. Too many holes and limited roster to fix all the issues by the previous two staffs at this point.
 

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The one constant there is the "fans". ..
Yes, the fans are the constant that put 140 mil in UAA's pocket every year, that pay coaches with a losing conference record 6 mil on the hope he may get better, and who give FF and others 30k in schollies, housing and benefits to watch him complete 30-40 percent of his passes that cross scrimmage.

We also payed Fooley 1.5 mil (twice what Bammer paid their AD) to be a mediocre popcorn salesman and gawdawful AD.

Yes.... those fans.

Want the stadium full? Just remove the rule that students cant sell their tixs to alums. That was yet another money grab by a terrible AD. This was an attempt to.force ticket prices through the roof. Or reap the consequences that students dont want to watch this trash after a decade of failure.
 
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The one constant there is the "fans". Im guessing they have a lot to do with it. Lets face it. After SOS it was gonna be bad. You had the fan base all completely convinced they understood football now and that UF was entitled to the SEC each year and a visit to Atlanta in Dec, forever. Stevie made us all feel bad ass and football savants. That had a lot to do with the us against them sht.

i have liked EVERY post you made AR. There are others here. Lots of gator fans are still wrapped up in this decade of misery and Franks is the easy target.

Along with how butters and fooley ruined our lives EVERYFCKN DAY IN THIS FORUM BY YKW.

And you know this because................
As you have agreed that Franks is very immature and if he fogged a mirror he had improved why is it hard to think a few or more than a few 17-18 yr olds might go into a stadium and think WTF, they boo their OWN players while they have been worshipped and praised in their HS environments.........
What I find comical about your view is you think UF fans are different than any other fanbase. Fans are stupid everywhere. Fans are crazy everywhere. We're not unique to anything. Other than wearing jorts.
 

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Franks is a kid. I'll cut him a little slack.

As for the team's needs...We are a year or two out. We need depth with QUALITY players. We can develop some but the majority need to be 4* (I hate Stars) but better than what we have been averaging.

We also need numbers because may either get hurt, transfer, or do not pan out.

This could be our year to pick up on FSU and the U. Why a DB, QB or OL would not look at Florida and see that they are moving up BUT there is still plenty of opportunity is beyond me?

I could see why not under Muschump and certainly Buttters MacShark but not this staff.
 

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What I find comical about your view is you think UF fans are different than any other fanbase. Fans are stupid everywhere. Fans are crazy everywhere. We're not unique to anything. Other than wearing jorts.
Not true. No Alabama fan has ever booed, they are above that.
 

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Full disclosure, I don't really have a problem with what Franks did. It sounds like something I would have done at that age. "Boo me, now you cheer for me. To hell with you!" In fact, I know that's what I would have done when I was 20. At 54, I would not do that now. But at 20, hell yes.

Embarrassing. This is big-time college football, not middle-schoolers out there doing their best.

If a recruit is a wussy enough to avoid a school because some fans booed, than we just dodged a bullet. He can go be a snowflake for someone else.

You have an unrealistic assessment of the maturity level of 17 and 18 year old males. There's a reason why auto insurance rates are so high. It's because they are friggin stupid.

BOOM, exactly. I WANT to like Franks, but he keeps making it awfully hard - unnecessarily in this case.

I do like Franks. His cockiness doesn't bother me in the least. I just wish he'd learn to throw the ball. We will not win championships without a respectable downfield passing game.
 

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:exactly: instead of denigrating the guy that scored the winning TD. He did have one TO

The only reason fans are denigrating him is because of his own immature actions. Had he done a Gator chomp in the endzone, there would have been almost unanimous praise for his performance. About the only critique one could make is the lack of downfield passing--but that would have been overshadowed by everything else and a win kinda masks that criticism.

Toney had the TO btw, not Franks.
 

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The only reason fans are denigrating him is because of his own immature actions. Had he done a Gator chomp in the endzone, there would have been almost unanimous praise for his performance. About the only critique one could make is the lack of downfield passing--but that would have been overshadowed by everything else and a win kinda masks that criticism.

Toney had the TO btw, not Franks.
Im serious, Did it really bother you? Im mean he has read all year and worse the last two weeks what a POS he is in social media and maybe even here. Then hears the boos in the first half. He is human. I thought Felipe had a fumble, too.
 

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I would have started booing earlier in the Mizzou game if I knew Franks would react with better play.

BTW, I have never interpreted the booing as being directed to a player. I attend most games. The booing usually occurs after a bad play call and is obviously directed at the staff who called the stupid cluster**** play. Again, that is my INTERPRETATION.
 

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You have an unrealistic assessment of the maturity level of 17 and 18 year old males. There's a reason why auto insurance rates are so high. It's because they are friggin stupid.
You say this, but have you in your entire life ever seen a college football player shush his own fans before? Especially a quarterback? You act like this is a common occurrence.

There was no excuse for it, and even Franks admitted he shouldn't have done it.
 

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Im serious, Did it really bother you? Im mean he has read all year and worse the last two weeks what a POS he is in social media and maybe even here. Then hears the boos in the first half. He is human. I thought Felipe had a fumble, too.

No--it didn't bother me near as much as hearing the rumors he was laughing in the locker room about being pulled during the Mizzou game. THAT bothered me. This was just more of the eye-rolling stuff that emphasizes why many don't like him.

I understand he's human and seeing/reading all the stuff online prrrobably doesn't help. But it's a dumb decision to taunt your own fans, no matter what your reasoning is for doing it. Mullen has acknowledged that; Franks has acknowledged that; and pretty sure you've acknowledged it too.

Let's stop trying to rationalize what's unanimously acknowledged as a dumb decision.
 

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Nope. I have never seen a player shush his own fans.

His youthful stupidity needs to find a better way of expressing himself.

Accurate throws maybe.
 

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No--it didn't bother me near as much as hearing the rumors he was laughing in the locker room about being pulled during the Mizzou game. THAT bothered me. This was just more of the eye-rolling stuff that emphasizes why many don't like him.

I understand he's human and seeing/reading all the stuff online prrrobably doesn't help. But it's a dumb decision to taunt your own fans, no matter what your reasoning is for doing it. Mullen has acknowledged that; Franks has acknowledged that; and pretty sure you've acknowledged it too.

Let's stop trying to rationalize what's unanimously acknowledged as a dumb decision.
You need to post more.
 

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I keep trying to like the guy but he keeps making it really hard to.
 

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I really couldnt care less. He can shush after every complete pass in exchange for him managing to connect for something more than 35-40 percent.
 
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My feeling is that Franks is about to become largely irrelevant and will likely transfer before next year.

Now that Emory Jones is setup to play as much as they want him to for two of the next three games while still preserving his redshirt., it is very possible that the Idaho game will be Franks' last hurrah as a Gator. If the coaches are getting EJ ready for significant reps in FSU and the Bowl game, which I expect they are doing if for no other reason that it puts FSU in a game planning bind on a game Mullen really needs to win. If that proves true, then those two games will also serve as a ramp up to a new QB competition in the Spring that Franks is almost guaranteed to lose.

As such, I am expecting that the FSU game will be the beginning of a migration towards a QB that conforms to Mullen's full vision of what he wants the offense to do which is obviously not on full display yet. Given that the reason for this is the need to scheme around Frank's likely incurable weaknesses, I think EJ is therefore almost assured of winning that battle and Trask, who was basically on par with Franks this Spring, will likely win out on QB2 mostly because he is clearly comfortable as a permanent backup since he's been performing that role since HS. This will leave them in a place similar to this year depth wise where they have a QB1 in EJ, Trask as a solid QB2 as a safety net for injury insurance, and a talented freshman in JJ who they hope to redshirt while still strategically using his 4 games of eligibility within the new rules. That'll leave Franks as a fourth wheel who I don't think will want to stick around in that capacity. Though this will leave us once again in a bit of a vulnerable position depth wise, we will clearly be in a better position overall with a QB that fits the scheme rather than needing the scheme to be fit to him. Hopefully he'll also have the ability to hit wide open receivers on a more regular basis too while also being able to be much more than just a willing runner in the process.
 

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