Bama player at Combine admits to multiple failed drug tests, never suspended

MJMGator

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If I'm not mistaken, we have one of the most lenient drug testing policies in the conference. We wouldn't have been able to field a team on Saturdays when Urbs was here if there was a zero tolerance policy.
 

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It was well known that Tim Williams was a multiple offender. He sat a lot of times for that (quarter, etc.), but was never declared suspended.
 

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The rules don't apply to Saban or Alabama! If the NCAA tested that team I would bet $10,000 that at least a third of the team would pop for PED'S.
 

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Saban says no truth to that 'cause Williams was always too high to recollect anything correctly.
 

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If I'm not mistaken, we have one of the most lenient drug testing policies in the conference. We wouldn't have been able to field a team on Saturdays when Urbs was here if there was a zero tolerance policy.

Is it the policy or the coach enforcing said policy?
 

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Article is from 2011. Have we updated this policy at all? 2222?

Put down the stones everyone and grab a mirror.
Why do you think we never boot anyone for weed? They can fail once a year and still stick around. Personally, I could care less about smoking weed, but we should never talk smack about other schools and their drug policies.
 

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That's from 2011... anyone know if it's still accurate?
I'm sure it is. They would've made it public if they were taking a tougher stance, don't ya think?
 

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PHASE I RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES (First Positive for marijuana at the 5 ng/mL concentration or higher, or synthetic marijuana at any concentration) A. The student-athlete meets with the Substance Abuse Committee. B. The Chair of the Substance Abuse Committee will notify the following individuals in writing of the test result: 1. Student-athlete and his/her parent or guardian; 2. Head coach (and his/her designees); 3. University Counselor; 4. Associate Director for Sports Health; and, 5. Director of Athletics. 79 C. The student-athlete may be asked to appear before the members of the Substance Abuse Committee on additional occasions. D. Counseling is mandatory and attendance will be monitored by the Substance Abuse Committee. The student-athlete must attend a counseling session within two weeks of their meeting with the members of the Substance Abuse Committee (allowances will be made when there is a conflict with the University Calendar). If the student-athlete fails to attend this meeting or subsequent sessions, there may be a 10% game suspension assessed by the Substance Abuse Committee. E. Additional sanctions may be applied by the coach. These may include but are not limited to, not allowing a student-athlete to dress for a game, be in the team area, and/or attend a pregame meal. F. Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory. PLEASE NOTE: A student-athlete will only be placed in Phase I one time in their career at the University of Florida. Under no circumstances will any subsequent positive test be considered for a Phase I penalty (counseling without suspension).

PHASE II RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES (Second positive for marijuana at the 5 ng/mL concentration or higher, or synthetic marijuana at any concentration) A. The student-athlete meets with the Substance Abuse Committee, and if the positive test is upheld, the student-athlete is to be suspended immediately from competition. 1. The length of the suspension is equal to 10% of the team's season competition schedule where the student-athlete represents the University of Florida. The suspended events will be the next consecutive events in the schedule. Post-season events are also included in the suspension (e.g., SEC Championships, NCAA Championships, Bowl Games, and Post-Season Invitational events). Additional sanctions may be applied by the coach. These may include but are not limited to, not allowing a student-athlete to dress for a game, be in the team area, and/or attend a pregame meal. B. The Chair of the Substance Abuse Committee will notify the following individuals in writing of the recommended plan and sanctions: 1. Student-athlete and his/her parents or guardian; 2. Head coach (and his/her designees); 3. University Counselor; 4. Associate Director for Sports Health; and, 5. Director of Athletics. C. The student-athlete may be asked to appear before the Substance Abuse Committee on additional occasions. D. Counseling is mandatory and attendance will be monitored by the Substance Abuse Committee. E. Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory. 80 F. If a team completes its competition schedule while a student-athlete is under Phase II sanctions, the student-athlete's suspension will be carried over into next season's competition. If an individual is positive during a red shirt year, the suspension will begin during the next season's competition (game suspensions will not be applied during a red shirt season or during a medical hardship).

PHASE III RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES (third positive for marijuana at the 5 ng/mL concentration or higher, or synthetic marijuana at any concentration) A. The student-athlete meets with the Substance Abuse Committee, and if the positive test is upheld, the student-athlete is to be suspended immediately from competition. 1. The length of the suspension is equal to 20% of the team's season competition schedule where the student-athlete represents the University of Florida. The suspended events will be the next consecutive events in the schedule. Post-season events are also included in the suspension (e.g., SEC Championships, NCAA Championships, Bowl Games, and Post-Season Invitational events). Additional sanctions may be applied by the coach. These may include but are not limited to, not allowing a student-athlete to dress for a game, be in the team area, and/or attend a pregame meal. B. The Chair of the Substance Abuse Committee will notify the following individuals in writing of the recommended plan and sanctions: 1. Student-athlete and his/her parents or guardian; 2. Head coach (and his/her designees); 3. University Counselor; 4. Associate Director for Sports Health; and, 5. Director of Athletics. C. The student-athlete may be asked to appear before the Substance Abuse Committee on additional occasions. D. Counseling is mandatory and attendance will be monitored by the Substance Abuse Committee. E. Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory. F. If a team completes its competition schedule while a student-athlete is under Phase III sanctions, the student-athlete's suspension will be carried over into next season's competition. If an individual is positive during a red shirt year, the suspension will begin during the next season's competition (game suspensions will not be applied during a red shirt season or during a medical hardship).

PHASE IV RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES (first positive for other drugs excluding alcohol and prescription or over-the-counter medication; not applicable to marijuana or synthetic marijuana positive) 81 A. The student-athlete meets with the Substance Abuse Committee, and if the positive test is upheld, the student-athlete is to be suspended immediately from competition. 1. The length of the suspension is equal to 50% of the team's season competition schedule where the student-athlete represents the University of Florida. The suspended events will be the next consecutive events in the schedule. Post-season events are also included in the suspension (e.g., SEC Championships, NCAA Championships, Bowl Games, and Post-Season Invitational events). Additional sanctions may be applied by the coach. These may include but are not limited to, not allowing a student-athlete to dress for a game, be in the team area, and/or attend a pregame meal. B. The Chair of the Substance Abuse Committee will notify the following individuals in writing of the recommended plan and sanctions: 1. Student-athlete and his/her parents or guardian; 2. Head coach (and his/her designees); 3. University Counselor; 4. Associate Director for Sports Health; and, 5. Director of Athletics. C. The student-athlete may be asked to appear before the Substance Abuse Committee on additional occasions. D. Counseling is mandatory and attendance will be monitored by the Substance Abuse Committee. E. Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory. F. If a team completes its competition schedule while a student-athlete is under Phase IV sanctions, the student-athlete's suspension will be carried over into next season's competition. If an individual is positive during a red shirt year, the suspension will begin during the next season's competition (game suspensions will not be applied during a red shirt season or during a medical hardship). PLEASE NOTE: When a student-athlete is positive and the sample contains more than one drug, the more severe sanctions will be applied. When there are a number of positive tests for different drugs, it is the Committee’s responsibility to determine in which phase to place the student-athlete.

PHASE V RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES (fourth positive for marijuana at the5 ng/mL concentration or higher, or synthetic marijuana at any concentration; or second positive for other drugs excluding alcohol and prescription or over-the counter medication) A. The student-athlete is immediately suspended, and the University Athletic Association revokes all privileges of participating in athletic activities or of using Athletic Association facilities. B. The Chair of the Substance Abuse Committee will notify the following individuals in writing of the recommended plan and sanctions: 82 1. Student-athlete and his/her parents or guardian; 2. Head coach (and his/her designees); 3. University Counselor; 4. Associate Director for Sports Health; and, 5. Director of Athletics. C. The student-athlete must appear before the Substance Abuse Committee on additional occasions as requested. D. Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory. E. Evaluation for further services will be conducted by the Substance Abuse Committee. Further counseling and/or treatment sessions may be required for the student-athlete on an individual basis, including the possibility of inpatient treatment. The offer to coordinate inpatient or outpatient treatment will be extended to the student-athlete under the clinical supervision of the UAA. "Clinical supervision" means, that in some cases, an alternative treatment is preferable to, or needs to precede inpatient treatment. In these cases, the treatment is supervised by appropriate UAA medical or mental health professionals. F. The Director of Athletics will determine whether athletic aid will be continued in accordance with the terms of the financial aid agreement between the student-athlete and the University and in accordance with University and NCAA rules and regulations.
 

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If I read that correctly it is 4 strikes and you're out now instead of 5. Progress.
 

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If I read that correctly it is 4 strikes and you're out now instead of 5. Progress.
Nope. Still five strikes.

Nope. Reread. You're correct.
 

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The author of that article was being lazy.

The UAA policy takes into account the type of substance that was found to be in the athlete's sample. It is a given that most college students will consume alcohol or use legally prescribed and over the counter medications. In addition, society as a whole has become more accepting of marijuana use as evidenced by the recent decriminalization in many locales in the US and the world.


The first time an athlete tests positive for marijuana or alcohol:
  • They have to appear before the substance abuse committee.
  • The athlete's parents and coach are notified of the positive test and what substance was found in the sample.
  • The athlete must attend mandatory counseling.
  • The coach may impose additional penalties.

The second positive test for marijuana or alcohol:
  • The athlete meets with the substance abuse committee.
  • The athlete's parents and coach are notified of the positive test and what substance was found in the sample.
  • The athlete is immediately suspended for 10% of the season.
  • The suspended events will be the next consecutive events in the schedule. Post-season events are also included in the suspension. In other words, they are not allowed to "get around" the suspension. This is a possible reason why a player sometimes misses a bowl game and then the first game of the next season.
  • Suspensions will not be counted during redshirt seasons, medical hardships or games the athlete would have missed anyway.
  • The athlete must attend mandatory counseling.
  • Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory.

The third positive test for marijuana or alcohol:
  • The athlete meets with the substance abuse committee.
  • The athlete's parents and coach are notified of the positive test and what substance was found in the sample.
  • The athlete is immediately suspended for 20% of the season.
  • The suspended events will be the next consecutive events in the schedule.
  • Suspensions will not be counted during redshirt seasons, medical hardships or games the athlete would have missed anyway.
  • The athlete must attend mandatory counseling.
  • Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory.
The fourth positive test for marijuana or alcohol or the first positive test for other drugs:
  • The athlete meets with the substance abuse committee.
  • The athlete's parents and coach are notified of the positive test and what substance was found in the sample.
  • The athlete is immediately suspended for 50% of the season.
  • The suspended events will be the next consecutive events in the schedule.
  • Suspensions will not be counted during redshirt seasons, medical hardships or games the athlete would have missed anyway.
  • The athlete must attend mandatory counseling.
  • Follow-up drug testing will be mandatory.
The fifth positive test for marijuana or alcohol or the second positive test for other drugs:
  • The athlete is immediately suspended and is not allowed to participate in any sports or use any of the athletic facilities.
  • The athlete's parents and coach are notified of the positive test and what substance was found in the sample.
  • An offer to coordinate inpatient or outpatient treatment will be extended to the student-athlete under the clinical supervision of the UAA.
  • The Athletic Director will determine if the athlete will lose their academic scholarship.
  • If the athlete agrees to continued testing and treatment they can be reinstated after a 12 month period without incident.

So yes, an athlete gets four chances if they are consuming alcohol during the season or training periods or if they are using marijuana. If they are using any other drugs they get only one chance.

http://floridagators.com/documents/2016/9/12//2016_17_SA_Handbook.pdf?id=15825
 

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Wow that was one torpedo that came back to get us.




Say it out loud, I will never make fun of Bammer's pothead policy.
 

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