California Burning... Again

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  1. GMDGator

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    Last year, there were wildfires in the Great Smoky Mountains. Terrible. Killed 14 people. Deadliest fires in almost 70 years.

    Not a lot of press. Not a lot of media. Not a lot of politicians talking about it.

    But when natural disasters like Superstorm Sandy hit NJ or these wildfires hit LA, it's big news.

    Just an observation.


    Alex.
     
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    I posted right here articles on it and how it was started by kids flicking matches. It was national news. BTW, this is the second time this year California has been on fire and they have a couple of more residents than Gatlinburg...
     
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      I know you posted about it. You lived there.

      I'm not busting your ass.

      My comment is directed toward the coastal bias by the media. All of their offices are in LA and NY. Those stories are huge. Stuff happening in-between doesn't get as much coverage.

      As for California, it is a giant state. The fires in wine country are as far away from the fires in SoCal as Gainesville is from Greenville. Besides, we're talking 14 deaths. I don't care that there are more people in LA than in Pigeon Forge. 14 deaths.

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      my point was the national news was all over Gatlinburg...
       
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      No, the national news didn't spend nearly as much time on the Tennessee fires as they did on coastal natural disasters. Yes, you can find stories, but the amount of time spent on the news, the number of front page articles, it's just not the same.


      Alex.
       
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      Don’t know much about the area. But maybe they should try some controlled burns in the rainy season
       
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      Took this from 40k feet over Burbank this afternoon. Sorry for the glare from the windscreen. Its hard to tell in the photo because from an angle like this all you normally see is smoke, but with the naked eyeball the amount of fire visible under the smoke was remarkable.

      Oh, and while I was typing this we had an earthquake.:lol:
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          Heard ATC talking to an MQ-9 Reaper drone that was showing up over the fires as we were going through the area. I've never heard them on the radio before but I guess when the operator transmits from his trailer, it goes out over an on board radio just like any other aircraft and receives the same type of handling from ATC.
           
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            I can't believe we are comparing these fires in Santa Rosa, Napa, Sonoma & LA to those in Pigeon Forge. :rolleyes3:

            "Bitter, Party of One. Bitter"
             
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              Maybe you can help answer a question I have..

              Why can't they fly water and retardant planes/helicopters at night and with high winds but they can fly commercial flights and news helicopters in both conditions?
               
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              Simmer down.

              Not comparing the fires.

              Comparing the media coverage of the fires.


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              And it's a terrible comparison but I'm not going to change you mind about it.
               
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              The fire fighters have to fly really low to be effective. Its too dangerous at night, especially in the hills and valleys where most of these fires occur. A news chopper flies at night over a lit up city at a safe altitude. Commercial flights fly under positive ATC control on flight paths that are planned out to be clear of obstacles and terrain.
               
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              Their propellers would get hung up in the grape vines. And global warming.
               
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                At night, obstacles at the working height - towers and especially high tension power lines - are invisible, especially on slopes.
                Water or retardant has to be applied at a certain rate to have any effect. Speed and altitude are part of what controls the drop rate. In addition, aircraft drops without followup ground support are useless (and expensive). With winds this high it is not possible to fly low enough to prevent water or retardant from being blown away uselessly.

                If you need a more mundane explanation, think pissing into the wind when you're trying to pee on a leaf.
                 
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                And peeing into a 50 to 80 mph wind at that.
                 

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