Coaching Staff Updates: Savage named S&C coach

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  1. ltraz

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    fsu will drastically improve the moment francois puts cleats on and any decent DC is put in charge of all that talent. They should at least be ranked, which means it's close to a guaranteed win for them them.
     
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    I dunno man, it's not our choice lol. I'm just assuming he wanted familiar faces. He's making better choices than Mac did as far as I can tell.
     
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    We gonna be Cowbellin!!!!

    As far as our staff, Seider is the only one worthy of staying. Im not sure about Davis as a "maybe" type second.
     
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    Do we really expect them to be that much better though? Sure they get their QB back, but look at who they're going to lose:

    Auden Tate - Jr., don't see him staying
    Jacques Patrick - Jr., any decent RB that can declare, should declare
    Ryan Izzo - RS Jr., probably stays, but outside shot he leaves
    Derrick Nnadi - Sr, he was good
    Josh Sweat - Jr., he's probably gone
    all 3 starting LB's are Sr's
    Derwin James - RS SO, he's gone
    Trey Marshall - Sr

    That's up to 10 starters that could be gone very easily. Their OL sucked to begin with and they'll 7 Sr's next year, so it'll probably be even more trouble in 2019. Their WR corp outside of Tate is weak. So that leaves their QB, Akers, Izzo (if he returns), and likely another weak OL. It also seems like they'll be fairly inexperienced on the defensive side of the ball up the middle. So I see what you are saying, but to call it close to guaranteed is giving them credit that I don't think they deserve just yet.
     
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    I don't see how you will be able to keep Skipper on. Great recruiter but he did nothing with the LB's. I agree on Seider and think Davis is worth a shot. It probably is beneficial to have two working the OL with this system.
     
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    Brick by brick.
     
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    Pretty disappointing staff hires so far.

    You could tell both Muschamp and Mac were going down in flames when you saw their staff hires, getting a similar feeling here.
     
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    Don't think they'll be great for the reasons you just mentioned, but they've been recruiting at a very high level. For example, sweat might leave partly bc he'd start losing snaps to kaindoh. Any good coach has them as a 15-20 team and there's no reason to think mullen will beat that with the roster he's inheriting.
     
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    Better than mac, bc his best friend doesn't happen to be the worst OC in the universe, but at least mac tried to get some young up-and-comers. Mullen seems very content with the mediocre results he got at msu.
     
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    Outside of Corey Bell, I think Mac upgraded the assistants, but he did it by attrition and not cutting dead weight, as you said. Of course Bell is still better than the original Callahan.
     
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    Which results were great from his coordonators? His run game was and I'm completely in favor of keeping hevesy. His pass game was far worse than mediocre, but we kept the person in charge of that. His D s&p/fei was a little worse than his recruiting average and the biggest thing on grantham's resume is a failed stint at uga. He also got worse the longer he was at both his last two stops. Is that better than average? Special teams rank was solid (30) and id be cool with it if there wasn't probably a better option already in Florida.
     
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    I'd say being the winningest coach at MSU since Allyn McKeen in the 30s and 40s is impressive. His coordinators were a part of that. There hasn't been a coach with a winning record at MSU since the 50s. I think people on this board are grossly undervaluing the job he did at MSU. Maybe he fails at UF. But to call the results at MSU "mediocre" is dumba$$ery at its finest.
     
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    I'm calling some of his coordinators jobs mediocre. Not being able to separate is like saying nuss did a good job here the first two seasons bc mac was winning. If hevesy did a great job, why does that make it smart to keep Billy too? If nord got hired by bama next season and they won in spite of him does that mean he did a good job? It doesn't make sense to group everyone when talking about individual hires.

    Also, if you're going to make the argument that mullen did better than other msu coaches you should really look at the other coaches. Better than crap doesn't actually mean you did u great job.
     
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    Anybody heard anything on Buckley? Is he waiting to see if he gets the DC job at msu? Who we getting to coach DB's?
     
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    You don’t like Rumph?

    He’s got to have people he trusts to coach well and recruit at the pace he demands. He got rid of clear misfits/problems immediately. I’m not surprised some are staying on to help through the transition and maybe he’s evaluating a few.

    I note that on the official page only Grantham, Gonzales & Hevesy are listed. Not sure if that means anything but it doesn’t look like any of the holdovers are finalized.

    We need a great DB coach/recruiter.
     
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    Possibly Pat Surtain from American Heritage...they play in the state championship game this weekend and after that is when i've read we're going for him.
     
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    You can't blame Skip for our LBs - No talent there. He did very well coaching up the RBs before Seider.
     
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    Florida: Mississippi State assistant AD for football operations Jon Clark will join Dan Mullen in Gainesville in a similar capacity, a source tells FootballScoop.
     
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    Who looked like they improved with coaching other than Bryan? Has he not had big issues recruiting (very uneven dt recruiting and big trouble with DEs)?
     

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