Del Rio goes on twitter rant (again)...

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Were those stories true about Muschamp basically promising his dad he would be the starter and that his why he kept starting him for so long no matter how poorly he played? Did you hear those rumors in your job?

I've never heard that rumor before.

I think Driskel would have been a serviceable QB if he wasn't saddled with Muschamp. Muschamp hated offense with a passion.
 

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Most people greatly underestimate the true compensation college football players receive at D1 schools.

College football players get
  • free all expenses paid trips to the college during recruiting
  • preferential treatment and lower standards when applying to the college
  • tuition
  • meals
  • books and supplies
  • tutors
  • personal nutritionists
  • personal trainers
  • access to state of the art training facilities
  • access to players only lounges/game rooms
  • world class medical care
  • group basic medical insurance provided by the NCAA
  • catastrophic injury insurance provided by the NCAA
  • Exceptional Student-Athlete Disability Insurance Program provided by the NCAA
  • access to a variety of well trained and highly paid coaches to help them hone their skills (position coach, coordinator, head coach, etc.)
  • access to TV and other media exposure to help advertise their skills to potential employers
  • access to the NCAA Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund which will pay for the misc. expenses of an athlete such as street clothes (many schools allot athletes $500 to buy clothes anywhere they want)
  • travel expenses to visit home
  • parents travel expenses to events where an athlete is honored
  • a laptop or any other equipment they may need as a student and much more through access to the NCAA Special Assistance Funds which will pay for even more misc. expenses if an athlete is deemed to be in financial need
  • free on campus housing or an off campus housing stipend (the stipend allows athletes to legally pocket thousands in cash to spend any way they want)
  • away game stipends which can be in excess of $45 per day
  • bowl goody packages worth thousands of $
  • daily per diem in excess of $45 per day on any day an athlete is required to go to practice, banquet or any other event
  • the new true cost of scholarship stipend
....and the list goes on.


USA Today did a study that valued the average basketball D1 scholarship at $120,000 per year. That did not factor in much of what is listed above.

The vast majority of 17 year olds coming out of high school are not ready for the NFL. How much would they have to pay to be coached and break down film with Saban or Meyer 20 hours a week? How much would it cost to get 3 hours of TV time every Saturday in the Fall to advertise their skills?

The true value of the compensation package they are receiving is fairly close to priceless.

I went to a smaller school as an undergrad and then UF for grad school. So I do not know this from personal experience, but I understand that athletes also get preferential treatment when it comes to registering for classes and that can be quite a valuable perk for an undergrad at large school like UF.
 

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Man, he just needs to shut up. And all from a kid who has never missed a meal, went hungry, had clothes to wear, and on and on.
 

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I'm assuming LDR has trouble with math. Spreading the wealth? Did he notice how most athletic departments don't make money or just break even? Only a select few could actually afford to "spread the wealth." I hate this debate as there simply isn't enough money.
I get what you're saying but this isn't entirely true when we consider how much coaching staffs make. If coaching salaries were cut in half and saban was making 4 mill instead of 8 and so on, most schools could afford some sort of pay out. Or if the money was collected to a centralized office as a percent of revenue like an NCAA tax and then paid out equally to each player, that could also work. Allow player endorsements and such but all proceeds go to this fund that pays out to all athletes. That way the star QB doesn't make any more than the women's lacrosse goalie. Its a fair way to do it.
 

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Had a class with him, the 3 times I saw him during the semester I wanted to throat punch him. Every other time I saw him was driving his SUV with the vanity plate "slinger" out of the stadium. Hated that guy.
Had classes with several of his friends from his HS, and none of them actually had his back. They talked so much shyt about him. He cheated on his now wife who knows how many times. And yes, I think it was a green suburban with that plate, what a douchenozzle
 

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I get what you're saying but this isn't entirely true when we consider how much coaching staffs make. If coaching salaries were cut in half and saban was making 4 mill instead of 8 and so on, most schools could afford some sort of pay out. Or if the money was collected to a centralized office as a percent of revenue like an NCAA tax and then paid out equally to each player, that could also work. Allow player endorsements and such but all proceeds go to this fund that pays out to all athletes. That way the star QB doesn't make any more than the women's lacrosse goalie. Its a fair way to do it.

They would also find what an incredible waste of time it all was under that scenario when they get their checks for $1.25 if that :lol:
 

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I went to a smaller school as an undergrad and then UF for grad school. So I do not know this from personal experience, but I understand that athletes also get preferential treatment when it comes to registering for classes and that can be quite a valuable perk for an undergrad at large school like UF.
Not sure if true today, but in my day they did. You got preference by seniority unless you were an athlete. I wanted to take a golfing class with Spurrier and tried as early as possible and it was already filled....nothing but athletes in it.
 

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I get what you're saying but this isn't entirely true when we consider how much coaching staffs make. If coaching salaries were cut in half and saban was making 4 mill instead of 8 and so on, most schools could afford some sort of pay out. Or if the money was collected to a centralized office as a percent of revenue like an NCAA tax and then paid out equally to each player, that could also work. Allow player endorsements and such but all proceeds go to this fund that pays out to all athletes. That way the star QB doesn't make any more than the women's lacrosse goalie. Its a fair way to do it.

Much of the head coaches pay is due to outside factors. Nike pays, those sponsors pay, he makes appearances, etc. If you cut them in half some would find other opportunities as well.

Sure communism and socialism work really well. No changes are required, and if anybody makes a union they need to be charged for coaching, charged a lot.

If you don't like the scolly you are offered, don't take it.
 

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I get what you're saying but this isn't entirely true when we consider how much coaching staffs make. If coaching salaries were cut in half and saban was making 4 mill instead of 8 and so on, most schools could afford some sort of pay out. Or if the money was collected to a centralized office as a percent of revenue like an NCAA tax and then paid out equally to each player, that could also work. Allow player endorsements and such but all proceeds go to this fund that pays out to all athletes. That way the star QB doesn't make any more than the women's lacrosse goalie. Its a fair way to do it.

The problem isn't Alabama, Florida, Texas, USC, Ohio State, etc....it's the small schools, from the small conferences. Those schools can't afford it and many of them are not paying the COA, delaying it, or paying a reduced amount. So, if we expect that players will "get paid" ON TOP of the COA money that's a pipe dream....especially if you want to pay non-revenue sports. Right now only football and men's basketball are getting it (which I'm surprised hasn't caused a Title IX lawsuit). Here's a good article from 2015-16, scroll down to see which schools are NOT paying it and then ask yourself if they'll be able to afford to pay ALL of their athletes (woman's sports, men's golf, etc):

http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...college-football-cost-of-attendance-database/

Also, notice where UF is paying $3800 and FSU is paying $6,000+ ($4500 in-state).....and please explain to me how it costs an additional $2200 to go to FSU (which is a whole other topic - how schools are allowed to make their own determination on COA - read: the schools who can WILL pay more).
 

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Most people greatly underestimate the true compensation college football players receive at D1 schools.

College football players get
  • free all expenses paid trips to the college during recruiting
  • preferential treatment and lower standards when applying to the college
  • tuition
  • meals
  • books and supplies
  • tutors
  • personal nutritionists
  • personal trainers
  • access to state of the art training facilities
  • access to players only lounges/game rooms
  • world class medical care
  • group basic medical insurance provided by the NCAA
  • catastrophic injury insurance provided by the NCAA
  • Exceptional Student-Athlete Disability Insurance Program provided by the NCAA
  • access to a variety of well trained and highly paid coaches to help them hone their skills (position coach, coordinator, head coach, etc.)
  • access to TV and other media exposure to help advertise their skills to potential employers
  • access to the NCAA Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund which will pay for the misc. expenses of an athlete such as street clothes (many schools allot athletes $500 to buy clothes anywhere they want)
  • travel expenses to visit home
  • parents travel expenses to events where an athlete is honored
  • a laptop or any other equipment they may need as a student and much more through access to the NCAA Special Assistance Funds which will pay for even more misc. expenses if an athlete is deemed to be in financial need
  • free on campus housing or an off campus housing stipend (the stipend allows athletes to legally pocket thousands in cash to spend any way they want)
  • away game stipends which can be in excess of $45 per day
  • bowl goody packages worth thousands of $
  • daily per diem in excess of $45 per day on any day an athlete is required to go to practice, banquet or any other event
  • the new true cost of scholarship stipend
....and the list goes on.


USA Today did a study that valued the average basketball D1 scholarship at $120,000 per year. That did not factor in much of what is listed above.

The vast majority of 17 year olds coming out of high school are not ready for the NFL. How much would they have to pay to be coached and break down film with Saban or Meyer 20 hours a week? How much would it cost to get 3 hours of TV time every Saturday in the Fall to advertise their skills?

The true value of the compensation package they are receiving is fairly close to priceless.

Your best post on this board, ever.

Add in that any of these kids that come from "low income" families are also getting $5775/annually for free (almost $500/month) via the Pell Grant. So, at UF they're getting over $10,000 tax free/year when you add in COA.

And if they need more than $10K/year (on top of all the other free perks) they can do like **GASP!!** other college students do....and take out a student loan!!
 

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LDR's dad looks like he would have been a disciplinarian but its pretty obvious he has been coddled some when he was younger with how he acts.

this isn't always on the dad.
First, JDR is/was, more than likely, almost always at work and not around much to raise the kids. I'm sure this is how most coaches are that don't have a contract with their families (starring at you Urbs)
Second, I cannot tell you how many moms I've seen under mind disciplinary fathers and pamper the kids when the need a guud butt whipping (or whatever form of punishment you may deem necessary). Since mom is the primary care giver in most cases, it'll go on and on...


Or if the money was collected to a centralized office as a percent of revenue like an NCAA tax and then paid out equally to each player, that could also work.

So take $$$ from larger/better schools who strive to be the best to make it to the higher paying bowls and give to those that don't?
OK, thanks for your input Bernie :thumbup:
 

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this isn't always on the dad.
First, JDR is/was, more than likely, almost always at work and not around much to raise the kids. I'm sure this is how most coaches are that don't have a contract with their families (starring at you Urbs)
Second, I cannot tell you how many moms I've seen under mind disciplinary fathers and pamper the kids when the need a guud butt whipping (or whatever form of punishment you may deem necessary). Since mom is the primary care giver in most cases, it'll go on and on...

Good point about the coaching dad who is probably gone most of the time. My dad used to lock the door when he tore me up because he knew my mom would come in there trying to stop him. LDR seems to jump on anything where people are supposed victims it appears - probably a sign of the times we live in now.
 

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