Del-Rio running his "glory hole" once again

[alcoholica]

Florida fans should be able to because we are never close to our roster cap and have plenty of room for players to stay if they want to. :D

Here is an old chart on our scholarships, not sure if there is a more current one.

https://florida.rivals.com/news/unofficial-scholarship-breakdown-finally-a-fullhouse

This is total of 85 scholarships. So you should subtract the following:
Herndon - Sr and Walkon
Harrison - Walkon
Cronkrite - Transfer
Fullwood - Senior
Thompson - Senior
Treon - Transfer
Baily - Transfer
Sousa - Transfer
Dorsey - Transfer
Cox Jr. - Senior
Ivie - Senior
Holley - Medical
Ivie - Medical
Maye - Senior
Rolin - Transfer
Davis - Senior
McMillian - Senior
Stipe - Walkon
Stephens - Walkon
Hardin - Transfer

That's 20 open spots. The following are likely to declare:
Tabor
Wilson
Brantley
Anzalone

That gives us 24 spots, but then you have to add LDR, so 23 spots. How are we getting a 32 class size needed?

 

[Gator Fever]

Here is an old chart on our scholarships, not sure if there is a more current one.

https://florida.rivals.com/news/unofficial-scholarship-breakdown-finally-a-fullhouse

This is total of 85 scholarships. So you should subtract the following:
Herndon - Sr and Walkon
Harrison - Walkon
Cronkrite - Transfer
Fullwood - Senior
Thompson - Senior
Treon - Transfer
Baily - Transfer
Sousa - Transfer
Dorsey - Transfer
Cox Jr. - Senior
Ivie - Senior
Holley - Medical
Ivie - Medical
Maye - Senior
Rolin - Transfer
Davis - Senior
McMillian - Senior
Stipe - Walkon
Stephens - Walkon
Hardin - Transfer

That's 20 open spots. The following are likely to declare:
Tabor
Wilson
Brantley
Anzalone

That gives us 24 spots, but then you have to add LDR, so 23 spots. How are we getting a 32 class size needed?

How many are guys not even on scholarship when they first got to Florida? We are the exact opposite of teams like Bama when it comes to that stuff.

 

[alcoholica]

How many are guys not even on scholarship when they first got to Florida?

I put walkon next to their name, so those plus LDR

 

[rogdochar]

Strikes me that, in the huddle LDR would rather gossip than call a play.

[ I wrote a screenplay about the great 2011 Mississippi flood. Called it "The Great Terrain Robbery"]

 

[Gator Fever]

I put walkon next to their name, so those plus LDR

Guess we have recovered there more than I thought. Dang you look at that and think we wouldn't be hurting so bad with the D line next season but I guess the problem there is we don't have too many talented guys with true DT size and have a lot of DE size linemen with talent.

 

[alcoholica]

Guess we have recovered there more than I thought. Dang you look at that and think we wouldn't be hurting so bad with the D line next season but I guess the problem there is we don't have too many talented guys with true DT size and have a lot of DE size linemen with talent.

Clark is the only BIG guy and he's only 317 lbs. The rest are under 300 lbs. We have too many project ends and rushers. Won't be surprised to see some of them transfer this year.

 

[RocketCityGator]

When playing in that last game could be the difference in 7-8 figures worth of salary, it makes sense, especially if you aren't in the running for a championship. The school has gotten their money's worth out of these kids after 3-4 years of exploitation. If it's some kid who doesn't have a prayer at getting drafted high or at all, it doesn't make sense.

The kids get a $100,000+ scholarship. On top of the scholarship, they get hundreds of thousands worth of training, conditioning, facilities, etc. to get ready for the NFL if that their path.

"exploitation", go smoke some more crack!

 

[TheBigClaw]

Del Rio being a douche makes it so much easier to call him a loser

 

[Gator Fever]

The kids get a $100,000+ scholarship. On top of the scholarship, they get hundreds of thousands worth of training, conditioning, facilities, etc. to get ready for the NFL if that their path.

"exploitation", go smoke some more crack!

True - my main argument against the generic argument that these kids are being exploited is that 97% of them wouldn't even be on the field if it was a true open market for big time college football and it didn't have the "workplace" restrictions it does with the student requirements etc. Reading some of their complaints they make it sound like they should be compensated/treated like college football is close to some free market system.

 

[g8torfan]

Not really, Luke being a loser makes it so much easier to call him a loser.

 

[diehardg8r]

I sit them out as well. I don't buy tickets or spend tons to go see a **** product on the field with a bunch of spoiled babies. Not worth it. I can watch it on the tube and turn it off when we start stinking it up on offense.

 

[Jbossgator8]

LDR knows his career is already over. He won't play again for us

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

The kids get a $100,000+ scholarship. On top of the scholarship, they get hundreds of thousands worth of training, conditioning, facilities, etc. to get ready for the NFL if that their path.

"exploitation", go smoke some more crack!

And the schools make MILLIONS, especially the big ones. Apparel deals, TV contracts, ticket and merchandise sales, jerseys with players' specific numbers on them that they don't see any revenue from, and the list goes on and on.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

Cut the twat and let him go to Oakland and help daddy. Problem solved.

 

[GatorJ]

Here is an old chart on our scholarships, not sure if there is a more current one.

https://florida.rivals.com/news/unofficial-scholarship-breakdown-finally-a-fullhouse

This is total of 85 scholarships. So you should subtract the following:
Herndon - Sr and Walkon
Harrison - Walkon
Cronkrite - Transfer
Fullwood - Senior
Thompson - Senior
Treon - Transfer
Baily - Transfer
Sousa - Transfer
Dorsey - Transfer
Cox Jr. - Senior
Ivie - Senior
Holley - Medical
Ivie - Medical
Maye - Senior
Rolin - Transfer
Davis - Senior
McMillian - Senior
Stipe - Walkon
Stephens - Walkon
Hardin - Transfer

That's 20 open spots. The following are likely to declare:
Tabor
Wilson
Brantley
Anzalone

That gives us 24 spots, but then you have to add LDR, so 23 spots. How are we getting a 32 class size needed?

Probably not 32. But one or two unexpectedly declare. Not sure how many early enrollees we have but they can be rolled back to last year's class. Somebody will get medically removed. And a couple more will probably transfer.

 

[alcoholica]

Probably not 32. But one or two unexpectedly declare. Not sure how many early enrollees we have but they can be rolled back to last year's class. Somebody will get medically removed. And a couple more will probably transfer.

Sharpe may declare, but he'd be better of dropping weight and improving his stock. Dawson will be given the opportunity to play CB, which should help his draft stock. I do think that some of the DE's should probably transfer. A couple of them will never make it.

 

[RocketCityGator]

And the schools make MILLIONS, especially the big ones. Apparel deals, TV contracts, ticket and merchandise sales, jerseys with players' specific numbers on them that they don't see any revenue from, and the list goes on and on.

Yes, everybody wins, that's not exploitation. Unless of course you believe that I am being exploited by my employer even though I am a well paid engineer.

 

[Gator Fever]

And the schools make MILLIONS, especially the big ones. Apparel deals, TV contracts, ticket and merchandise sales, jerseys with players' specific numbers on them that they don't see any revenue from, and the list goes on and on.

Lets just make it pro teams at the big football schools and drop the student nonsense then most of them can pay their way through school since they wont be good enough to get that fully compensated position as a football player. Heck a few borderline current NFL guys may get a better contract from a school like Texas than staying in the NFL.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

3-4 years of exploitation

If getting to put on the uniform of one of the most historically relevant CFB programs while also getting 100-200K worth of education along with getting a chance to make millions playing a game, OR perhaps having that education make a nice six figure salary doing something else is exploitation then please sign me up......

 

[EuroGator]

When playing in that last game could be the difference in 7-8 figures worth of salary, it makes sense, especially if you aren't in the running for a championship. The school has gotten their money's worth out of these kids after 3-4 years of exploitation. If it's some kid who doesn't have a prayer at getting drafted high or at all, it doesn't make sense.

I'm late to the game, but I've got two cents.

I'm with Sas seeing this as a complex issue where I can see both sides. I haven't heard the national media address the perspective of completing one's commitment or loyalty to the program and team that put the player in the position to be drafted. I wish someone would deal with that well too.

Where I part ways with Harry is where others have taken exception. ..."The school has gotten their money's worth out of these kids after 3-4 years of exploitation." That's bull. All of the parties involved know the situation when the players commit. They volunteer for their role in college football. I don't need to innumerate all of the benefits that a big-time college football player gets or that the schools get. It's a voluntary agreement that they enter in and the rules don't change. If those rules need to be altered (like cost of attendance), then I'm all for it, but let's not propagate the culture of entitlement and valuing victimhood over everything else that is so pervasive in our country.

They aren't exploited. They are consenting and privileged.