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And as a side note what should his record have been with Treon as his QB and the 6 olinemen that Muschamp left him with?
Idk, what should his record be without the 15 draftpicks on defense muschamp left him? We've won in spite of mac not because of mac but that'll come to light this year.
 

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Idk, what should his record be without the 15 draftpicks on defense muschamp left him? We've won in spite of mac not because of mac but that'll come to light this year.
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So the 15 draft picks that went 3-5, 4-4 with Chump suddenly decided to go 7-1 in spite of Mac.
 

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So the 15 draft picks that went 3-5, 4-4 with Chump suddenly decided to go 7-1 in spite of Mac.

Should we talk about the declining East or no...worst Eastern division since the split. Are you gonna say that the defense hasn't carried this team for two years? Okie dokie. Chump was a joke here. Mac is slightly better.
 

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Should we talk about the declining East or no...worst Eastern division since the split. Are you gonna say that the defense hasn't carried this team for two years? Okie dokie. Chump was a joke here. Mac is slightly better.
No. We're still talking about what a stupid comment little t made.
 

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So the 15 draft picks that went 3-5, 4-4 with Chump suddenly decided to go 7-1 in spite of Mac.
It damn sure wasn't our offense that won any games for us. I'd say Collins is a better dc than muschamp.
 

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Idk, what should his record be without the 15 draftpicks on defense muschamp left him? We've won in spite of mac not because of mac but that'll come to light this year.
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Mushchimp didn't win with HIS recruits. He won with Creyer's 2010 class, widely called the best defensive class ever even when it was signed.

All Chimp signed were DBs and undersized DEs.

Butters one upped him by not recruiting any defensive position well.
 

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It damn sure wasn't our offense that won any games for us. I'd say Collins is a better dc than muschamp.
So Mac won because the players (- the Oline) just decided to play better and the SEC East suddenly dropped off.
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So Mac won because the players (- the Oline) just decided to play better and the SEC East suddenly dropped off.
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Tell me, what did mac do to make this "turn around" happen?
 

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Butch Jones is still employed in the East and is the longest sitting coach in the East, as well. That should tell you all you need to know about how bad it's sucked.
 

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Coached better.
But maybe you can ask the people that voted him 2015 SEC COY.
He didn't coach the defense did he? No his unit has sucked balls ever since he got here. All we hear is how he won games in spite of the mess muschamp left but no pumpers mention he's won riding the backs if the defensive talent muschamp left. He's like Brady Hoke, slightly better than his predecessor but still sucks ass.
 

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He didn't coach the defense did he? No his unit has sucked balls ever since he got here. All we hear is how he won games in spite of the mess muschamp left but no pumpers mention he's won riding the backs if the defensive talent muschamp left. He's like Brady Hoke, slightly better than his predecessor but still sucks ass.

You said Mac won with Chump's players. Yet Chump couldn't win with Chump's players. Mac comes in and wins with Chump players, minus an Oline, a feat that garners him COY, and yet it was because the defense just decided on their own to step it up a notch.
 

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You said Mac won with Chump's players. Yet Chump couldn't win with Chump's players. Mac comes in and wins with Chump players, minus an Oline, a feat that garners him COY, and yet it was because the defense just decided on their own to step it up a notch.
Didn't muschamp win COY in 2012? I think I'm missing your point.
 

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It damn sure wasn't our offense that won any games for us. I'd say Collins is a better dc than muschamp.

I don't know, muschamp proved his self as a pretty good recruiter ( at least on defense) and defensive coach. I kind of felt like Collins walked into a loaded defense he did not build and reaped the benefits. Don't get me wrong, Collins did well with what he had, but I think I'm kind of looking forward to what Shannon can do now that we have to rebuild the defense.
 

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Butch Jones is still employed in the East and is the longest sitting coach in the East, as well. That should tell you all you need to know about how bad it's sucked.
And Florida hired a fvkktard who LOSES to Bytch Jones.

Think about that.
 

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I don't know, muschamp proved his self as a pretty good recruiter ( at least on defense) and defensive coach. I kind of felt like Collins walked into a loaded defense he did not build and reaped the benefits. Don't get me wrong, Collins did well with what he had, but I think I'm kind of looking forward to what Shannon can do now that we have to rebuild the defense.
Collins was a terrible recruiter and mediocre dc but unlike muschamp, he wasn't scared to bring the house. I'd take Collins over muschamp running the D any day.
 

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