First divorce in the White House?

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  1. AlexDaGator

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    There are theories (hence the "Log Cabin" Republicans) but a lot of Lincoln's behavior that strikes us as odd or gay was considered perfectly normal back in his day.

    Lawyers traveled a circuit (the origin of "circuit court") and went from town to town where they would stay a while, try all the cases that needed to be tried, then moved on to the next town.

    It was common for these men to share rooms and beds. This was before central heating. Sharing a bed with another man wasn't gay. It was economical and warm. OK, it was weird typing that but that's what they did.

    Their style of writing, the way they often referred to each other, it does not sound natural to our ears but it is the way they spoke and the way they wrote.

    This was a time before smart phones, computers, tvs, even radios. One of the reasons Lincoln was so popular was that he was a gifted storyteller. He was amusing. He would entertain the other men on the circuit with his stories like a modern business traveler might watch tv or surf the web. Men became very close. You can't pick up a phone and call your wife or kids. You become very close to the people around you. Not necessarily sexually close, like brothers close. That kind of relationship became very important, especially when you were away from family or when family was away from you. Otherwise, existence could be painfully lonely. So it may strike us as odd but it wasn't back then.

    When my own grandfather first emigrated to the US, he lived in a tenement with lots of other men and shared a bed with some of them. They slept sideways on the bed so as to fit better. And this was in the 1920s. Even when I was a kid, it wasn't uncommon for siblings to share a room and even a bed if you came from a large family. Now kids all want their own bed, own room, and own bathroom.

    Was Lincoln gay? I strongly doubt it. It's not an insane suggestion, but I still strongly doubt it.

    Alex.
     
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    Anybody who's ever served in a fwd deployed unit in a locale that gets cold knows all too well about tandem and triple action male bunking. I've spent more nights than I care to discuss snuggled up pretty close to my battle buddies just trying to stay warm.

    Me and a good buddy zipped our sleep sacks together last October during a 3 week field ex at Bragg one night when it was so damn cold my camelback was freezing. There we were, just me and him, in our goretex underliners bundled up in a double fart sack. Probably kept each of us from going into hypothermia.

    I welcome the witty retorts to follow... :lol:

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    I’ve had other men’s feet in my armpits and vice versa to stay warm
     
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  5. AugustaGator

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    I grew up last week so I’m not going to poke fun.
     
  6. AlexDaGator

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    The canvas pup tent was designed for two troops to sleep together. Each soldier had a half shelter and when you put the two together you could make a tiny pup tent. This was the technology from the Civil War to the present. I think the only advancements have been pieces to close the front and back (they closed the front late in WWII) and more modern fabric and snaps instead of buttons.

    In my Dad's WWII pictures, there is one of his unit in pup tents; the old school open on the front end kind.

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    Used it in OSUT, never again, but you are correct.
     
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    Yeah... you get gay pretty quick when you get that cold. ;)
     
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    OK I have to admit after reading Durty and DG's sordid confessions, I got a little pup tent goin. Does that mean I am swinging to the left? For some reason I get the feeling Alex has more to share.
     
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    This thread got weird
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    Lincoln wasn’t gay, and saying that he was is enough to get someone a knuckle sandwich.
     
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    I have read a lot about Abe and maybe something happened with Speed or others but I dont think he was gay. And if he was it just proves that someone of this persuasion can be smart strong and a leader. I began reading about Lincoln very young and read lots of the Sandberg stuff. He was an amazing human being and I believe brilliant. Probably a liberal with all that empathy and regard for humanity. Reagan was sort of the same way. Of course with where the bar is now for conservatives Reagan was a liberal in too many ways.
     
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    When it gets cold enough, spooning another guy is okay. Just no forking.
     
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    Donald has this waiting at home for him:
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    But he decides to have a fling with this instead:
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    You're right dramagirl, I HATE that guy!
     
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