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What was Foley's larger failure?

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    Billy was done getting with the kids. He is where he belongs now. Maybe the NBA will change him back into a college coach.
     
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    I don't know about this. I do know that Donovan wasted minutes that year that could have led to Walker and Robinson becoming better on Kurtz. That seems to support the conjecture that Donovan was burning out. On the other hand he jump out of the Chris Walker frying pan into the Carmelo Anthony fire, so perhaps you are correct.
     
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    Interesting point of view. I thought practice was where you learned from your mistakes, not games where it counts. Development should happen in practice and on your own much more than in a game in my view.
     
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    I think he wanted to leave the first time he did. He stayed here for his wife and kids. Once the kids got older, his wife was ok with leaving and he left. I think he wanted to get to the NBA for a long time.
     
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    This narrative is far beyond false. Chiozza's insistence on dribbling in place and Egor taking 100+ 3pters and bad shots messed with Allen in a bad way. Hudson and Allen will compliment each other very well, especially with Nembhard at PG
     
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      This.

      I love KA but.....

      If you outperform Hudson in practice, no way a preseason all_SEC starter gets his playing time reduced.

      Reeks of entitlement in my opinion.
       
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      I can tell you that it was never anything personal between Hudson and Allen. Allen is one of the quietest and nicest guys you’ll ever meet (which is sometimes a detriment on the court). And while he does not have even a hint of arrogance about himself...having Egor and Hudson come into the fray did affect him psychologically. They got hot early and Allen did not and it impacted his confidence more than it should have. I believe next season they will mesh much better and I suspect Allen will return to form.
       
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        Six Nine and 200 lbs??? Might be OK for a guard if he could do that, no where near strong enough for even short forward.

        I agree he would not listen perhaps he should have been "cut".
         
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        Thought that was odd. It seems he has shrunk from his UF days.
         
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        I actually thought it was more Egor than Hudson.
         
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          He wants a more challenging academic environment.
           
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            I would say that practice is where you earn playing time to some extent. But if you could make all your mistakes on the practice court, then Brandone Francis would have not been a terrible shooter in real games and probably would still be at UF. Some players can learn from mistakes in games and get better.

            So while I am sympathetic to your point, I also remain of the belief that wasting minutes on a walkon who was never going to be a productive player is wasting minutes that could help a younger player get better.
             
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            Practice is for development, not gametime. A younger player needing to get better needs to do so in practice and earn the playing time. If a walk on is better than he is, and gives the team a better chance to win the game, the walk on should be getting the minutes, IMO. Serves as motivation for the younger guy to get better, and doesn't cost the team when minutes matter.
             
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              "Practice? We talkin' 'bout practice man?"
               
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                Hudsons return should be a major boost to the team. Frangie's comments don't sound credible and did he identify a source? We need Hudson back to provide leadership from the 2 guard spot. White and his coaches will be responsible for getting Hudson and Allen in sync with the rest of the team. I have to believe that they are ecstatic to have him back. Now if we can get some big men to step up and stay healthy we can do some damage.
                 
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                  I watched a lot of games that year, he was a productive player, he did a lot of good and improved those around him as well.

                  I have no issue with your belief that is different than mine.
                   
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                  Perhaps it is a mistake, after all nobody is perfect.
                   
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