Hurricane Michael

[EyeDocGator]

In complete and total fairness, these stores are getting massive insurance payouts regardless. They'll have records of their most recent inventory.

It's still stealing, but the stores/companies are going to make out alright (as long as they have insurance).

Right, and everyone's insurance rates will go up a little higher than they otherwise would have had to. There is no free lunch.

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

Right, and everyone's insurance rates will go up a little higher than they otherwise would have had to. There is no free lunch.

Because that store is the only entity getting an insurance payout after a Cat 4/5 landfall?

 

[MJMGator]

Bottom line is looters are the lowest form of scum on the planet. Taking advantage of businesses or individuals after a catastrophic event like that should be grounds for public hangings.

 

[Gator-Don]

Those guys have balls.

So does the Herc. :-)

 

[EyeDocGator]

Because that store is the only entity getting an insurance payout after a Cat 4/5 landfall?

I respect your right to have a preference for socialist economic policies. But, aren't you even a little bit embarrassed to be so economically ignorant?

Yes, there will be a lot of insurance payouts. If there were no such thing as hurricanes insurance rates would be much lower. Hurricanes are a real part of nature and there is nothing we can do to prevent them. Higher insurance premiums are the price we pay for living in Florida. Looting is not a real part of nature. If people had a working moral compass looting would not occur except in times of dire emergency when people actually needed supplies to survive. Looting is preventable, either by instilling morals into people (thank you government schools for ignoring this important function) or by having a mechanism of deterrence. The increase in insurance costs attributable to looting is preventable, and in effect, the majority of the population who are honest are subsidizing looters by paying increased insurance premiums.

 

[RocketCityGator]

Did I say it was ok? No. I just said the owners would be compensated.

But your message received is one of "No harm, no foul!" Is that the message that you want to convey?

 

[gator1946]

In complete and total fairness, these stores are getting massive insurance payouts regardless. They'll have records of their most recent inventory.

It's still stealing, but the stores/companies are going to make out alright (as long as they have insurance).

I can at least tolerate the argument that it is OK for a desperate family with survival at stake, with no access to water or food and their only option remaining is to pick up a few bottles of water and a can or two of food I'll leave the implications of that argument for another day. But to suggest that this is OK simply because insurance will cover it is so bogus it is beyond belief.

Note: I re-read sas's post. The problem was it started out with "In complete and total fairness". Later sentences in the post make it clear that he's not saying it's OK.

 

[Jack o' Diamonds]

I can at least tolerate the argument that a desperate family with no access to water or food and the only option to solve the problem is to pick up a few bottles of water and a can or two of something is about survival. I'll leave the implications of that argument for another day. But to suggest that this is OK simply because insurance will cover it is so bogus it is beyond belief.

You may as well say it's OK to shoplift because the store will just raise prices to cover it anyway...

 

[gator1946]

You may as well say it's OK to shoplift because the store will just raise prices to cover it anyway...

I said I'd leave that argument for another day. I realize where that goes, and I don't like the implications. But let's take it to the extreme. You haven't had water for five days. You are going to die. Are you are going to refuse to pick up one bottle of water? I'd pick it up. And I've never considered shoplifting or stealing anything from anyone. I've been stolen from. More than once. And it pissed me off.

Good God read the lead in to my statement again. There are slippery slopes and there are slippery slopes. The whole point was to say that to argue that it's OK to steal because insurance will cover it is absurd.

 

[gatormandan]

Stealing to stay alive may very well be necessary and its the only justified cause.

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

Once again, I never said it was ok they were looting. Arrest them, try them, jail them.

But let's pump the brakes on the pity party for the owners. Like I said, they'll be financially compensated either way. It's more of a tragedy their business just got wrecked by a freak storm than anything else.

 

[Tunaboat]

I get it. They are a mob of garbage looters so therefore they are scum that care nothing about their neighbors.

Despite my education in this thread, this is the most absurd analogy and I doubt you even believe it. Someone’s home and belongings versus dollar store inventory that will be thrown in the trash are obviously different. Again, I get it though, my moral compass is just too weak for seeing such distinctions as to “looting” garbage versus taking an individual’s personal belongings. It’s all stealing. I’ve learned now.

Thanks for the explanatory analogy. Let the facepalms rain!

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Are you black? If so, the media will give you a pass and wait for a white looter to jump on. No prob.

 

[Tunaboat]

Once again, I never said it was ok they were looting. Arrest them, try them, jail them.

But let's pump the brakes on the pity party for the owners. Like I said, they'll be financially compensated either way. It's more of a tragedy their business just got wrecked by a freak storm than anything else.

My extensive damages at the Cape will not be compensated by anything except my own wallet. It will run to 6 figures. Thanks for your expertise.

 

[divits]

Stealing to stay alive may very well be necessary and its the only justified cause.

It's a hurricane. Not a Mad Max apocalypse.

 

[g8tr72]

Death toll from Hurricane Michael hits 18 but is expected to rise dramatically | Daily Mail Online

 

[g8tr72]

At least 46 missing in Florida city hit hard by Hurricane Michael: Official

 

[MJMGator]

I’m guessing many of the missing will never be found, as they were likely taken by the storm surge. Brutal stuff.

 

[URGatorBait]

damn :(

 

[fischerwood]

Anybody heard from Cover 2?

 

[rogdochar]

It doesn’t justify stealing from them...or anyone else.

Correct MJM.
Situational ethics stinks; it amputates the very point on the moral compass. Illegal taking out of necessity can be excusable, but not such taking as an enterprise. Do those looters seem enterprising?