It's time.....

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  1. Concrete Helmet

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    Hearing that Trump's legal team is going to tell Mueller that this gig is not a full time job and a deadline of early August is going to be put to the Special Council....Put up or shut up and stop wasting the taxpayers hard earned money.

    They've had 3 months of full cooperation and unlimited resources yet the only evidence they've unturned in the matter points straight at the former SOS,POTUS, James Comey and the DNC...Yet none of them are under investigation. Why?
    1.) BO meddled in the Israeli election of Netanyahu....Fact.
    2.) BO meddled in the US election in 2016 when he illegally brought a Russian attorney into the US to try and build a "just in case" meeting excuse for Trump winning.....Fact
    3.) BO led administration guilty of unmasking....Fact
    4.) Hillary Clinton destroys 30K plus e-mails many which were government property since they were sent when she was SOS....through an unsecure e mail server which is a Federal security breech and a crime....Fact.
    5.) She was also involved with the "question rigging" during the debates, which now have also been tied to Ukrainian involvement.....Fact.
    6.) James Comey by his own admission violated US Code "Misprision of a felony" regarding Hillary Clintons email server which has been tied to....you guessed it, Russia.....Fact.
    7.) James Comey by his own admission also violated US Code "Public money, property or records" when he illegally removed "notes".....Fact.
    8.) James Comey violated US Code "Perjury" regarding responses to Clinton Emailgate, which is tied to again you guessed it.....Russia.
    9.) Both Susan Rice and James Comey violated Federal Code" Misprision of Felony" in regards to Hillary's emailgate....which has been tied to Russia....Fact.
    So this is what we have learned from the Special Council in 3 month's.....Fact


    Now this is what they have NOT found on Trump or his staff.
    1.) ANYTHING illegal....Fact
    This is what they CANNOT find...
    1.) Anything illegal.......because as a PRIVATE CITIZEN you CANNOT do ANYTHING illegal regarding a public election....short of stealing the actual ballot box....Fact.

    If this waste of time, money and resources continues I'm hearing Trump's attorney's are going to advise he uses those words he made famous.....You're fired.
     
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      If Hillary had won and the same set of facts came out, and Hillary was saying that same things that Trump saying, and threatening to fire Mueller, you would not be saying this. Its time for Trump to step down or come clean. The lies have to stop. Now, yet again, Kushner has been caught in another lie, and has to revise his forms. If this was happening to the Hillary administration, what would you be saying?
       
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        How can you be guilty of anything involving an election as a private citizen...Hillary is not a private citizen by virtue of her FORMER position as SOS....You are held to a different set of Federal Codes once you hold an office in government...Trump wins again.
         
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        You did not answer my question. If you replace "Trump" with "Clinton" over the past 6 months and the facts were exactly the same, would you be saying that this is all fake and we should leave Hillary alone?
         
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        You're asking the impossible....You can't replace great new visionary with true leadership qualities with a lying, stealing, murderous life long politician who has the personality of a dirty sweat sock.....The 2 parts are not interchangeable...
         
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          That's to assume the media would actually be doing their jobs challenging Clinton on accusations rather than protecting her like every other democrat they've protected over the years. Would this many anonymous sources fly as true then
           
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            If Hillary had been elected, we would have been told by the media that the fact that people voted for her meant they were okay with her decades of corruption and criminality and all of that would be off limits.
             
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              Hahahahahahahahaha!
               
            • Gatoravatara

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              Its because you dont want to apply the same standard to Trump that you do with Hillary or Obama. You are not consistent.
               
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                Again not answering the question. You cant answer the question.
                 
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                Sure I'm applying the same standard....But since Trump isn't a life long lying, murdering, stealing politician why should he be held to the same as the 2 you mentioned. He has never done anything illegal that anyone can prove at this point and again has nor could he do anything to "fix" the election because he was a private citizen at the time....Neither Barrack or Hillary were private citizens(her because of being a former SOS) at the time. HOWEVER they BOTH tried to "fix' the election.......and my God they even sucked at that.:rotfl:
                 
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                  I would have liked a more focused assignment, with a time limit, budget, and limited ability to investigate things. The system does not work this way.
                   
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                  When Obama was first President McConnell said his top priority was to make Obama fail. We did not hear any complaints about that. Now that it is the Dems that are the opposition party, all of a sudden its become an issue.
                   
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                  Are you ok with Mueller looking at Trump's tax returns and his loans from Russia?
                   
                • Concrete Helmet

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                  Private loans to a private citizen? Really.....how about we reopen Whitewater.....And why is it that we have to see Trumps tax returns? Maybe we should have seen Slick Willy's? Or W's, or while were at it John Kennedy's....Or maybe yours....sh!t Maybe everyone should have to make their tax returns public viewing.....You keep twisting just like the "Council".....and it keeps boomeranging right back to you :lol:

                  If there were really something there wouldn't it be pretty obvious by now? How long do we keep peeling layers of the onion and at what expense to the country? Don't you want a better economy? Safer streets, a better retirement account, more job opportunities because that's what is already happening. Look around man the plan is working if you can see through the smoke screen.
                   
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                  Are you okay with Mueller looking at all governmental colusion with Russia and Ukraine?
                   
                • Concrete Helmet

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                  Well they do seem to be finding plenty....just not where they want it:lol:
                   
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                  Please someone tell me exactly what crime might have been committed.
                   
                  • Concrete Helmet

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                    Well there seems to be about a dozen or so........But none by Trump or his admin.:lol:
                     
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                    Your pedophile worshipping boy threw the first stone 72 hours into his 8 year reign of terror, you whiny liberal......

                    http://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-to-gop-i-won-017862

                    President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation.

                    The exchange arose as top House and Senate Republicans expressed concern to the president about the amount of spending in the package. They also raised red flags about a refundable tax credit that returns money to those who don’t pay income taxes, the sources said.

                    The Republicans stressed that they want to include more middle class tax cuts in the package, citing their proposal to cut the two lowest tax rates — 15 percent and 10 percent — to ten percent and five percent, rather than issue the refundable credit Obama wants.

                    At another point in the meeting, sources said Obama told the group: “This is a grave situation facing the country.” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama would hold another economic meeting in the White House Saturday for a "broader group."

                    After Friday's meeting, Democratic and Republican leaders publicly wrangled over the developing stimulus plan.

                    But perhaps taking a cue from Obama’s “I won” line when Democrats were asked if they were concerned about Republicans blocking the package, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had a swift one-word answer: “No.”

                    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the bill was on track for passage by February 16, while Republicans continued to voice their opposition.

                    “We expressed our concerns about some of the spending that’s being proposed in the House bill,” House Minority Leader John Boehner said after meeting with Obama.

                    “How can you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on contraceptives?” Boehner asked. “How does that stimulate the economy?”

                    Boehner said congressional Republicans are also concerned about the size of the package.

                    “Government can’t solve this problem,” he said.

                    Reid said a Congressional Budget Office report that says the stimulus funds won’t be pumped into the economy until 2010 doesn’t provide an accurate picture.

                    Republicans have used the report to back up their argument against a near $1 trillion package. But Reid said Obama Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag told them CBO only analyzed 40 percent of the bill.

                    He also said Orszag guaranteed “that at least 75 percent of the bill would go directly into the economy within the first 18 months.”

                    Pelosi suggested that the package, currently at $825 billion, could become even larger.

                    “It has grown,” Pelosi said, “and we’re still in the process.”

                    At the meeting, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the No. 2 House Republican, passed out copies of the Republicans’ five-point stimulus plan. At first blush, Obama said, “Nothing on here looks outlandish or crazy to me,” Obama said, according to a source familiar with the conversation. He seemed particularly receptive to some Republican ideas about increasing benefits to small businesses.

                    But when the conversation got down to other specifics, it was clear that some of the Republican ideas were clearly non-starters with the new president – including calls to put off tax hikes during the recession. “He rejected that out of hand and said we couldn’t have any hard and fast rules like that,” Cantor said.
                     

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