Mullen officially signs six-year, $36.6 million deal at UF

[TheDouglas78]

So Saban was perennial 8 win coming from MSU?he had 2 9 win seasons, 3 6 win seasons, and a 7 win season before leaving for LSU. Belichick was a perennial loser before NE? Spurrier was 8-4 In his best year at Duke. Pete Carroll was a perennial loser before USC. This argument holds zero merit. He has ten times the talent to choose from, more money to spend. To think it’s tied to the same results is what’s ludicrous. He deserves a chance beyond 3 games.

OK, NFL arguments are bad arguments, because of the types of organizations they are. Second an NFL coach can be bad at the NFL and good in college and vice versa.

Pete Carroll was loser before going to USC
1994 jets 6-10
1997 Pats 10-6
1998 Pats 9-7
1999 Pats 8-8

Total 33-31 seems more like a .500 coach

Steve Spurrier
1987 Duke 5-6
1988 Duke 7-3-1
1989 Duke 8-4

Total 20-13-1 full data changes the argument. Which doesn't include the 35-21 he was with the Bandits

Saban
1990 Toledo 9-2
1995 MSU 6-5-1
1996 MSU 6-6
1997 MSU 7-5
1998 MSU 6-6
1999 MSU 9-2

Total 43-26-1.

The question is in a reduced schedule the people listed above couldn't sign 4-5 non-P5 schools to play against like Mullen did in each of his 9 seasons at MSU.... if we were to expand all of these coaches resumes to their first 9 years like Mullen, what would the argument be?

 

[Slevin]

OK, NFL arguments are bad arguments, because of the types of organizations they are. Second an NFL coach can be bad at the NFL and good in college and vice versa.

Pete Carroll was loser before going to USC
1994 jets 6-10
1997 Pats 10-6
1998 Pats 9-7
1999 Pats 8-8

Total 33-31 seems more like a .500 coach

Steve Spurrier
1987 Duke 5-6
1988 Duke 7-3-1
1989 Duke 8-4

Total 20-13-1 full data changes the argument. Which doesn't include the 35-21 he was with the Bandits

Saban
1990 Toledo 9-2
1995 MSU 6-5-1
1996 MSU 6-6
1997 MSU 7-5
1998 MSU 6-6
1999 MSU 9-2

Total 43-26-1.

The question is in a reduced schedule the people listed above couldn't sign 4-5 non-P5 schools to play against like Mullen did in each of his 9 seasons at MSU.... if we were to expand all of these coaches resumes to their first 9 years like Mullen, what would the argument be?

Jesus Christ what a stretch. What would you be saying when we hire a losing NFL coach? Or an 8 win coach with 3 6 win seasons from Michigan State? Or a coach with 4 win season on his record from OSU? The narrative would still be identical. No situation is the same. And given a bigger platform to perform and succeed has the ability to yield different results. To say Mullen, at a historical and factual loser program for 100 plus years, during the height of sabans tour at Alabama, where he took that program to historical heights, can’t come to Florida, with a larger talent base, can’t yield different results, well I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Saban couldn't have done better at Miss St. Saban would've lost against Kentucky too.

Even Saban would have lost to South Alabama in his seventh year.

Once they start chanting USA! USA! USA! , no team can win.

That chant neutralizes talent nearly as well as an option offense.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

UT verified they wanted him and they have big money.

Too bad we didnt let them have him.

 

[Slevin]

Even Saban would have lost to South Alabama in his seventh year.

Once they start chanting USA! USA! USA! , no team can win.

That chant neutralizes talent nearly as well as an option offense.

Saban lost to UAB in his 6th year so close

 

[TheDouglas78]

Jesus Christ what a stretch. What would you be saying when we hire a losing NFL coach? Or an 8 win coach with 3 6 win seasons from Michigan State? Or a coach with 4 win season on his record from OSU? The narrative would still be identical. No situation is the same. And given a bigger platform to perform and succeed has the ability to yield different results. To say Mullen, at a historical and factual loser program for 100 plus years, during the height of sabans tour at Alabama, where he took that program to historical heights, can’t come to Florida, with a larger talent base, can’t yield different results, well I don’t know what to tell you.

In a different post I broke down his winning percentage against different competition. You are building straw men generalization arguments, then get whiny when people bring the details to those arguments. What do you think should have been his average season if from 09-15 he played against 4 non-P5 teams and from 16-17 he played against 5 non-P5 teams. What would be a acceptable number of wins per year for you?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Saban lost to UAB in his 6th year so close

Not really, against the details of that argument are no where close to the same.

 

[Slevin]

In a different post I broke down his winning percentage against different competition. You are building straw men generalization arguments, then get whiny when people bring the details to those arguments. What do you think should have been his average season if from 09-15 he played against 4 non-P5 teams and from 16-17 he played against 5 non-P5 teams. What would be a acceptable number of wins per year for you?

Who’s whiny? Who is trying to fire Mullen 3 games into his tenure?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Who’s whiny? Who is trying to fire Mullen 3 games into his tenure?

No one, but that is your fake argument anytime someone brings up a negative about Mullen... you want him fired in game three.... whine whine whine

 

[Slevin]

No one, but that is your fake argument anytime someone brings up a negative about Mullen... you want him fired in game three.... whine whine whine

Lol. You need to take a chill pill. Sorry if I’ve upset your delicate sensibilities.

No situation is the same. And he has a greater chance to succeed at Florida than a 100 plus season perennial loser in MSU. Not much else to say. I’m going to try to enjoy it and if it fails we will hire a new coach. Rinse and repeat. Being a negative brat 24/7 just doesn’t seem appealing to me

 

[itsgr82bag8r]

How did a home loss to UK factor in to his overachieving metric? Had to be at least a 4 star moral victory I would guess.

Probably the same way a Home loss to UL Monroe did to Saban at Bama.

 

[T REX]

Probably the same way a Home loss to UL Monroe did to Saban at Bama.

If Mullen goes out and gets a top 3 recruiting class and goes 12-1 in year 2, I will gladly say that this was a great hire. He's not going to do the first one and the chances of him going 12-2 next year are slim to none.

 

[itsgr82bag8r]

If Mullen goes out and gets a top 3 recruiting class and goes 12-1 in year 2, I will gladly say that this was a great hire. He's not going to do the first one and the chances of him going 12-2 next year are slim to none.

It wouldn’t matter if he did what you’re dictating, you’d just bitch about his visor being to big or some other stupid imaginary thing to be unhappy with.

 

[Slevin]

If Mullen goes out and gets a top 3 recruiting class and goes 12-1 in year 2, I will gladly say that this was a great hire. He's not going to do the first one and the chances of him going 12-2 next year are slim to none.

2 teams in the west that year finished with 5 wins, one with 4 wins, one with 8, and one with 9 wins, and that was Ole Miss. there’s a slim to no chance Mullen gets that easy of a conference slate next year.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

Remember Bernie during the 2016 campaign? No matter the debate question, he had three talking points, nothing more. Didn't matter the question. You were getting the same answer regardless.

1) Wall Street is corrupt. Tax the shyt out of the mother humpers.
2) The Iraq war was wrong.
3) We're effing the environment.

Law is the new Bernie.

in your rush to label all things law and itraz, broken records you've failed to notice you're exactly the same. All you do is claim Mullen was the best option available, and anytime someone points out his pretty concerning record you throw out the same tired line about belicheck at Cleve or saban at Mich St. If you want them to stop then step up and show them how it's done.

 

[jhbyrd]

Too bad we didnt let them have him.

And the coach you said we should get then instead of Mullen?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Saban lost to UAB in his 6th year so close

Uh.... no, he didnt.

He lost in his first year.

You drunk already?

 

[jhbyrd]

Uh.... no, he didnt.

He lost in his first year.

You drunk already?

Still waiting.............Are you drunk? And the name of the coach you were saying then that we should get instead of Mullen?

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

To think every situation is equal is laughable. He overperformed by every metric at that shyt ass school and anybody not named Swonkey will tell you that. It’s also statistically factual

No he didn't. He built his resume on cupcakes. Jackie Sherrill did the exact same thing. Sherrill at least beat ranked teams. The lonly reason why you think he did is because he is the HC now

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

Slevin, this is one thing I've learned these last 10 years. A 7-8 win coach will be that where ever he goes if not worse. Muschamp has the same type of record at USC, mac had a similar record at CSU. Because we're uf, doesn't equate more wins. This mentality of "we can win no matter whose coaching because we're uf " is why we keep hiring shcit coaches. Mullen is mediocre and always will be. But don't worry, you'll be blaming him in a few years when we hire somebody else. It's the go to excuse around here.

Exactly. Look at meyer, saban, etc