Mullens First Bad Decision

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  1. ltraz

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    Don't love the move, but not for your reason. msu had an 1100 yard rusher. Now...most would agree that rushing yards is far more to do with scheme and playcalling than the position coach, but I definitely wouldn't say knox did a bad job (don't know their fumble #s).

    I think the weird thing is moving a guy you don't know into an uncomfortable spot. If he knows knox and likes him enough to bring him, you'd think he'd have faith in him to do this. I guess I couldn't imagine putting together a team of my buddies and one new guy and giving the new guy the short straw. Also, teams aren't blowing up his phone to talk with knox, but I guarantee the HC gets calls about Seider every year. You've now made UF worse for Seider and, at the same time, made him more appealing to other schools.

    The big pro I see is that now you have your stud recruiter going for a position that has been challenging for UF. Mullen could make a rb one of his personal recruits every year, but wouldn't do that with a TE.
     
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      Too early for a ruling.
       
      • TN G8tr

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        Here's the deal. I am glad he is keeping Seider and coaching TEs is not too bad. NORD WAS OUR TEs COACH. Bad decision or not, we are in better shape.
         
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          Seider could really grab some limelight if he can make our TE position seriously threatening and relevant again. I mean we have sucked derriere from that weapon position for like a decade. I would love to see some functional TE play turning clutch in moving the chains. Go Gators!
           
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            If you don't like speculating about Gator sports then I'm honestly not sure why you come to a message board. Would you rather just talk about last year?
             
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              Definitely conjecture, but it makes sense. RB, even if not QB, is still a true skill position and it's completely different coaching. I'd also say that even if someone played QB they might not love being a QB coach, bc it's a lot slower. A lot of people played QB in high school, but then never coached it. No one, but a past TE is excited about coaching TEs, bc you either don't like the blocking aspect or don't like the receiving side. We were already going to have the issue of people being able to offer Seider something like run-game coordinator and this only adds to it. If miami offers that why wouldn't he go? I just hope mullen isn't as sour as the last time one if his guys made a lateral move.
               
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              You obviously did not read my post very closely or, if you did, your ability to comprehend the written word has escaped you. Read it again, slowly if needed.
               
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              In 2016, Goolsby made some nice plays and showed real athleticism as a receiver & runner after the catch. He regressed big time in 2017 and I agree with you about his blocking. I lay that at Nord’s feet primarily. Lewis & Stephens haven’t developed at all. Crappy offenses tend to overuse the TE so this was a really craptastic position.

              Good coaches can adapt to new position groups especially when they aren’t highly technical ones (QB, CB). He’s got Hevesy to guide him so I expect he’ll be fine.
               
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              If Goolsby had ever learned to block in his 4 years he would have made a stud of an HBack working out of the backfield in specific formations. TE is a very difficult position to learn and play at the college level at least a true LOS TE. If we're going to make that part of this offense I'd rather see a guy coaching that position who either played it or coached it in the past.....but like everything else with this team we're going to have to wait and see what they come up with. Hope for the best and maybe Seider will be an upgrade for those guys.
               
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                Well, he's a good coach, a good recruiter, Mullen wants him and he wants to be here. Considering Nord was the TE coach, it's already a win before seeing what he can do.
                 
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                  RBs have to block and catch too, so it's not like he has no idea what to do with them. It's an odd move but as has been said, Mullen wanted his guy but didn't want to lose Seider either. Also, no one made him re-up his contract...he chose to stay.
                   
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                    No sir, wasn't looking hard at all.....actually it was just my opinion after the productivity Seider got out of the RBs last year. I personally believe the age old statement of "if it isn't broken, then don't fix it". I do agree however that Seider could be a great shot in the arm for TE production.
                     
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                    This is my thought as well. If he's such a "great recruiter" AND running backs coach I'm sure he got other offers. He's getting the opportunity to improve his resume, work w/ another head coach in a new (to him) offense (and give his inputs), and very likely move on to an OC job.

                    I try to pick and choose my battles in life, and this one isn't worth getting into a pissing contest over. If Mullen retained Nord, I'd be ready to 'fight a mother*cker!!'
                     
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                      Look at the title and the OP. That’s not “speculating.” That’s a poor attempt at making a statement of fact, even though there’s no proof to back it up when only time will tell. Maybe the guy’s opinion is correct, but it’s too early to know.

                      Some people on this board are so insistent on sounding like the smartest guy in the room without having any experience or insider info. Pardon the pumpers for showing some skepticism - I’m sure that’s a violation of GC rules.
                       
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                      Stop being a drama queen. Did the seaman forget to bring your coffee?
                       
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                        I guess I just took it as an opinion since the only fact is that it's not a fact. OP, please change thread title to 'I think this is a crappy decision' so people can stop freaking out. Almost all the posts in this thread state an opinion as fact: he's an upgrade over nord? How dare someone say that without specifying it's only their opinion!!
                         
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                        That's like insinuating he could coach oline, bc both rbs and oline block...A TE in mullen's scheme will often be inline, which means they are basically oline drills. The routes are rarely short so the receiving drills are essentially wr drills. I don't think anyone is saying he'll have 'no idea' what to do with them. I think anyone being reasonable knows we're putting a guy that will likely be average at best there in charge of players that appear to have had very little coaching. Then people justify it by saying at least he's better than nord. I wonder if bama would be ok with that...
                         
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                          So the only opinions allowed are the ones agreeing with the OP? Just trying to understand the rules.
                           
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