National Signing Day 2017

[Swamp Donkey]

Going to get a real one soon. You should be in Gainesville to celebrate a good signing day with us. The scenery at night in Gainesville is something to be seen.

Stop rubbing it in.

 

[Mainland_Buc_75]

Here's the yearly recruiting ranking breakdown with Rivals and 24/7 by coaches. Rivals lacked a 2002 ranking.

----------R 24/7
2017 - 9 10
2016 - 14 12
2015 - 23 21
--------------------------- Mac
2014 - 8 9
2013 - 4 3
2012 - 3 4
2011 - 12 11
---------------------------Mchamp
2010 - 2 1
2009 - 11 7
2008 - 3 6
2007 - 1 1
2006 - 2 2
2005 - 15 12
------------------------- Meyer
2004 - 7 5
2003 - 2 1
2002 x 10
------------------------ Zook

 

[Gator Fever]

It says in our local paper he had planned to sign with Auburn (probably due to Bama's class being filled) and then reversed himself at the last minute and signed with Bama even though he has to grayshirt.

 

[T REX]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...ecruiting-stars-rankings-high-school-football

Some cool stats in there. I think this is for last year. I was trying to see if the amount of 4/5 stars has changed since 2005 and if so, how much?

 

[GatorGriff]

Please, your list of predictions for this signing class was worse than The Bowl's. I know he got less than 10% correct.

This is a mehhh class, below average by UF standards. I don't think we ever finished 5th in the SEC prior to Butters except in years we fired a coach. Sadly this is his best class. It would be the worst class for the last four coaches.

I'm glad we got some nice, talented DL with size. I hope Jrob and Lemons can qualify and remain eligible bc they might be special if they do.

This reminds me a lot of the lowered expectations of the program in general. Now many view 4 losses as acceptable and finishing behind 5 rivals in recruiting acceptable.

With Mac it's always one step forward, two steps back. Or one step forward, one step back and two steps to the side.

I don't play the lowered expectations game. Jim Donnan land isn't where the Gators should be.

Technically we finished 4th in the SEC on rivals.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Here's the yearly recruiting ranking breakdown with Rivals and 24/7 by coaches. Rivals lacked a 2002 ranking.

----------R 24/7
2017 - 9 10
2016 - 14 12
2015 - 23 21
--------------------------- Mac
2014 - 8 9
2013 - 4 3
2012 - 3 4
2011 - 12 11
---------------------------Mchamp
2010 - 2 1
2009 - 11 7
2008 - 3 6
2007 - 1 1
2006 - 2 2
2005 - 15 12
------------------------- Meyer
2004 - 7 5
2003 - 2 1
2002 x 10
------------------------ Zook

Pretty much what we already knew. Mac's best class is every other UF coaches' worst class.

Much like the season, in recruiting we also lost badly to trailerBammer, Clown Town, and one east rival, slight win over another, and then really showed we are much better than Iowa. It is an 8-4 recruiting class for an 8-4 coach.

Turn it up, Coach. The training wheels are off and you own what you built.

 

[gatormandan]

Pretty much what we already knew. Mac's best class is every other UF coaches' worst class.

Much like the season, in recruiting we also lost badly to trailerBammer, Clown Town, and one east rival, slight win over another, and then really showed we are much better than Iowa. It is an 8-4 recruiting class for an 8-4 coach.

Turn it up, Coach. The training wheels are off and you own what you built.

I dont understand why you want to mirror rex. You guys should probably get married.

 

[ergator920103]

Pretty much what we already knew. Mac's best class is every other UF coaches' worst class.

Much like the season, in recruiting we also lost badly to trailerBammer, Clown Town, and one east rival, slight win over another, and then really showed we are much better than Iowa. It is an 8-4 recruiting class for an 8-4 coach.

Turn it up, Coach. The training wheels are off and you own what you built.

Completely agree, Mac's best is the worst we have have in many years. I remember people wanting to crucify MooseDump after he finished 8th and Mac is embraced. There is no way that UF should ever be ranked in the 30's this close to signing day. Maybe I wear orange and blue glasses but, the UF Head Coach, coming off back to back SEC East Titles, should never be very far outside the top ten in recruiting. I cannot fathom the mediocrity most are now embracing.

 

[GatorRaz]

I'll be the first to admit I was wrong about Mac wrapping this class up. He made a big signing day splash and has the Gators being mentioned on ESPN all day and night. I know we didn't get "elite" guys but out of Macs first 2 classes he has really developed some guys who helped us win the East. Yeah i know the East doesn't count for anything but it's better than not winning it. Our key is QB, if we get a QB who can just hit the open man we can be pretty good. OL has got to continue to develop to help the run game and QB be able to read his progressions. A functional offense will go a long way to help a young unproven D. Go Gators!!!

 

[cover2]

Let me say that it pleases me that we finished as well as we did. I was skeptical that this class could be cobbled together with what looked to be a late push. I feel some better about Mac, even though I'd personally like to see more on the front end of our recruiting efforts. I'll put the emphasis of my "Rebuild" thread on ice for a bit, but I can't throw it in the trash until I see us finish the schedule with a positive ending instead of a swoon (F$U, SECCG, etc.). Hire some coaches and get 'em ready.

 

[78]

Here's the yearly recruiting ranking breakdown with Rivals and 24/7 by coaches. Rivals lacked a 2002 ranking.

----------R 24/7
2017 - 9 10
2016 - 14 12
2015 - 23 21
--------------------------- Mac
2014 - 8 9
2013 - 4 3
2012 - 3 4
2011 - 12 11
---------------------------Mchamp
2010 - 2 1
2009 - 11 7
2008 - 3 6
2007 - 1 1
2006 - 2 2
2005 - 15 12
------------------------- Meyer
2004 - 7 5
2003 - 2 1
2002 x 10
------------------------ Zook

You can extrapolate pretty much whatever you want from these numbers. Zook's 2003 class was largely responsible for the 2006 title or that Meyer, in consideration of the elite 2008 and 2010 classes, did less with more than any other coach. You're bucking the odds, however, if you have high expectations coupled with mid-level recruiting.

 

[alcoholica]

One thing that hasn't been talked about too much is how Mac handled the Robinson situation. It resonated with future recruits. He tried to get Robinson in somewhere else when we couldn't take him. When that didn't work he kept fighting for the kid. Recruits have already taken notice. It may not translate to better recruits, who knows, unless some 5* points to it as a reason for committing. Regardless, the optics are tremendous and a big win for Mac.

 

[GatorJ]

Completely agree, Mac's best is the worst we have have in many years. I remember people wanting to crucify MooseDump after he finished 8th and Mac is embraced. There is no way that UF should ever be ranked in the 30's this close to signing day. Maybe I wear orange and blue glasses but, the UF Head Coach, coming off back to back SEC East Titles, should never be very far outside the top ten in recruiting. I cannot fathom the mediocrity most are now embracing.

This is a solid class. By no means elite. However you don't just jump up and get an elite class. Even Meyer did not do that. You have to have a class like this prior to making that jump.

I am not happy about the offense and I was very disgruntled about this class until yesterday. They put more effort in the last month of the class then they did all year. That can't happen.

There are two things that have to happen for us to get back to the top with Mac. The first is he has to fill the three position openings with elite recruiters. Second he needs to get somebody who can throw the ball. I think we have that person on the team; the question is can Nuss and Mac get results? And can Nuss not fck up the playcalling in the red zone?

 

[Slevin]

To me, it starts with on field production. We don't **** the bed again this year and finish almost dead last in total offense, we get one or two high end recruits and we finish this thing 7th or 8th. These kids have been told we don't have offense for 7 years and we have done nothing to prove it wrong. We have thrown every nut, screw, and every drop of oil into this machine and still can't get it to turn on. After awhile the top kids just stop believing that next year is the year. We have to prove it. With how bad we were perceiving this recruiting class it didn't end up that bad at all. A couple of good recruiters, some killers and goon recruiters, mixed with a top 60 offense and this thing takes off imho. But it has to be Mac who makes this happen. He's got to not play favorites ever again with qb decisions. That killed us last year. If we don't have one now go out and be ruthless and get one. If we don't we are doomed again and again

 

[GatorJB]

Pretty much what we already knew. Mac's best class is every other UF coaches' worst class.

Much like the season, in recruiting we also lost badly to trailerBammer, Clown Town, and one east rival, slight win over another, and then really showed we are much better than Iowa. It is an 8-4 recruiting class for an 8-4 coach.

Turn it up, Coach. The training wheels are off and you own what you built.

I agree with everything you said, but I think this was a 9-3 recruiting class for a 9-3 coach. Good not great and enough to where Strickland will definitely give him a 4th year now. That said, 8-4 is very likely how we'll finish this year due to the youth on defense, but 2018 should be better. But that may not be a good thing. I think Foley probably hired our own version of Mark Richt. Lot's of pretty good seasons but no championships. Mac really needs to upgrade his assistants, recruit relentlessly all year, and coach up a QB if we are going to surpass a 9-3 average.

 

[deuce]

Completely agree, Mac's best is the worst we have have in many years. I remember people wanting to crucify MooseDump after he finished 8th and Mac is embraced. There is no way that UF should ever be ranked in the 30's this close to signing day. Maybe I wear orange and blue glasses but, the UF Head Coach, coming off back to back SEC East Titles, should never be very far outside the top ten in recruiting. I cannot fathom the mediocrity most are now embracing.

Are you drunk or high?

We live in the real world and there are no guarantees! Typical entitled Gator Fan reasoning....

 

[deuce]

I agree with everything you said, but I think this was a 9-3 recruiting class for a 9-3 coach. Good not great and enough to where Strickland will definitely give him a 4th year now. That said, 8-4 is very likely how we'll finish this year due to the youth on defense, but 2018 should be better. But that may not be a good thing. I think Foley probably hired our own version of Mark Richt. Lot's of pretty good seasons but no championships. Mac really needs to upgrade his assistants, recruit relentlessly all year, and coach up a QB if we are going to surpass a 9-3 average.

 

[EuroGator]

Here's the yearly recruiting ranking breakdown with Rivals and 24/7 by coaches. Rivals lacked a 2002 ranking.
[copied below]

You can extrapolate pretty much whatever you want from these numbers. Zook's 2003 class was largely responsible for the 2006 title or that Meyer, in consideration of the elite 2008 and 2010 classes, did less with more than any other coach. You're bucking the odds, however, if you have high expectations coupled with mid-level recruiting.

Good point.
I have added the W/L results to this data because I wanted to see it and thought others might too.

----------R 24/7 ~ W-L
2017 - 9 10
2016 - 14 12 ~ 9-4 (10-4 if we assume W over Presbyterian)
2015 - 23 21 ~ 10-4
--------------------------- Mac
2014 - 8 9 ~ 7-5
2013 - 4 3 ~ 4-8
2012 - 3 4 ~ 11-2
2011 - 12 11 ~ 7-6
---------------------------Mchamp
2010 - 2 1 ~ 8-5
2009 - 11 7 ~ 13-1
2008 - 3 6 ~ 13-1 (National Championship)
2007 - 1 1 ~ 9-4
2006 - 2 2 ~ 13-1 (National Championship)
2005 - 15 12 ~ 9-3
------------------------- Meyer
2004 - 7 5 ~ 7-5
2003 - 2 1 ~ 8-5
2002 x 10 ~ 8-5
------------------------ Zook

The spacing isn't working right on this.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

See that's the point. Yes they are passionate Gators fans that are calling it like they see it. The words "only been" is the problem.

They, along with a few others, take it a step further by insisting that everyone see it exactly as they do. If you fail to fall into boot step with them then they go ballistic with anger and personal attacks. They insist with profanity filled tirades that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a worthless moron.

Therefore, they have a lot more invested in being correct. When you insist that you are absolutely correct to the point that everyone not with you is the enemy, then you can never fully admit that you were wrong. If you did, by definition, you would be one of the worthless morons.

That's why even when they admit something went well, they always have to put something negative in at the end.

 

[ergator920103]

Are you drunk or high?

We live in the real world and there are no guarantees! Typical entitled Gator Fan reasoning....

Neither drunk nor high... just not shooting loads over moving out of the 30's to our final ranking. In my opinion, it is unacceptable that we were ranked in the 30's for recruiting at UF.