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    Soooo...do we care if he's actually a good CB coach or are we just doing like the last guy and hiring unqualified people to pick up the recruiting slack for other coaches?
     
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      Who gives a damn, get as many kids, fathers, coaches, pencil sharpeners who are dedicated to the craft of winning we can lure under roof. We need all the help we can get to disinfect the current lazy, detached, apathetic infected, mindset breeding for nearly a decade... thanks to some real loser adult role models purported to be leaders... just saying man, if it isn't breaking a rule... bring 'em.
       
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        Top notch recruiter and a talented special teams guy thats been in the NFL the past number of years......seems real desperate yea :crazy:
         
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          Guys that rule only applies in a non coaching/assistant role. If he's an on field coach it doesn't matter.
           
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            ...yes

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              Never, ever leave SOS off a great UF QB list, ever :headbang:
               
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                Joker Phillips was his godfather. Maybe this will be our Malzahn moment.
                 
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                  Who cares if other people do or don’t call us QBU? I just did.
                   
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                    ST and recruiting at UF. That's where Zooks always belonged.
                     
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                      For DB? No.
                       
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                        Change your username to Mr. Buzkill, man. This would be great for recruiting reasons and coaching reasons. The dude must know a thing or two about coaching DBs if he has developed two of his kids into 5 star cornerbacks. He was also a very good NFL corner. It's at least worth a shot.
                         
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                          And how would we know if he is a good coach at the college level. If you have elite players and not that much of competition you might get great results without being a great coach at the college level. Sure you have some advantages being an NFL player etc. But you don't "know".
                           
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                            Isn't there a hole in this argument? Haven't we been arguing the whole time that playing experience doesn't make you qualified? :deadhorse:
                             
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                              I agree that it's possible, but taking your example...Art Briles' 1st college gig was as a rb coach; the position most consider the easiest to coach. CB is right up there with QB and OL as the hardest. That's why a CB coach was almost always a DB themselves when they played, but a rb coach was often not a rb.

                              Again, Surtain might be a perfect fit as he definitely brings some huge positives. I'm just saying that we can't forget about coaching bc recruiting has become such a concern and a guy that's never coached in college would require a unique interview process.
                               
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                                The list of former NFL players who became good coaches is very short.

                                There are many potential landmines associated with the interpersonal dynamics of having a position coach coaching his kid.
                                 
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                                  Apology accepted.
                                   
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                                    @GatorJ why isn’t Spurrier on your list? Come on man
                                     
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                                      Well, there you have it. Looks like Cam and Grier put us over the top. Congrats all around:dance:

                                      But seriously, I agree completely. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference if someone want to call us QBU, go for it. And we definitely have had some QB's we can all be very proud of.

                                      The only thing that matters now, I think we can all agree on this, is we need the next great Gator QB. Hopefully we get one or 2 in this class, maybe even as an early Christmas present.
                                       
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                                          Cam and Grier SIGNED with UF because of their history with QBs. That’s what this conversation is about. I said that we have a great history with QBs. And we need to get back to that. You said we do not. I told you why we did with Specific examples. I made a statement and you refuted it. I just asked that you use actual data to support your case. You’ve provided none.

                                          If there are tons, how can you not come up with one single example?

                                          It seems like every single one of your posts are so anti-Gator.
                                           

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