Patrick Surtain to UF rumor

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  1. heversle

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    Yeah, I'm sure a guy who was a 3 time Pro Bowl corner and coaches at a perennial football powerhouse has nothing of value to offer us as a defensive back coach. :rolleyes: Glad you boneheads aren't making the decisions around here.
     
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      First of all, I’m not debating whether UF should be considered QBU. I’m not sure how people define QBU. QBs drafted? All Americans? What I CAN tell you is that before the chumpmac error, we had a great string of QBs who would light up a defense as good as anyone. Certainly more than 1 every 10 years.

      Back to my original point... if you don’t know whether or not John freakin Reaves was good, then it is my opinion that you lack the necessary knowledge to make educated comments about the history of UF QBs.

      Imagine this: in 20-30 years somebody, Gator or not, says Tebow was an average QB, “he was just a good runner.” You’d probably have the same opinion of that person that several older Gators have of you right now.
       
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      Great players don't always equal great coaches and great players don't always equal great recruiters.....Also just because someone coaches at a great program doesn't make them a great coach.....Mac, Champ ring a bell Butters boy????
       
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        Stop making up what people say to try and support your stupid argument. It's childish. Glad you guys that never played football at a high level aren't making these decisions. :rolleyes:
         
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          The best corner on our team (marco) came from him, pretty polished too. He's got two 5 star corners in his team right now. I know i may be projecting here a little but he probably knows how to coach the position, he damn sure made alot of money playing it.
           
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              I didn’t want to hear “that was 50 years ago”.
               
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                Never, ever leave SOS off a great UF QB list, ever :headbang:
                 
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                  But how much of that is recruiting and knowing the Wilsons? We just dont know. IMG churns out studs too, but I'm not ready to hire any of their position coaches.
                   
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                  Look at art briles for an example. He jumped from the highschool ranks to d1 position coach. Its does happen. We're not talking about your average position coach. We're talking about a former pro bowler who comes with some studs.
                   
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                  That would be so fun to have the Ol' Zooker back in the Swamp.
                   
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                  I'm predicting Mullen wins his first Natty seven seasons from now. The bronze statue goes up in 2028.
                   
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                  4 or less I think
                   
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                  Who gives a damn, get as many kids, fathers, coaches, pencil sharpeners who are dedicated to the craft of winning we can lure under roof. We need all the help we can get to disinfect the current lazy, detached, apathetic infected, mindset breeding for nearly a decade... thanks to some real loser adult role models purported to be leaders... just saying man, if it isn't breaking a rule... bring 'em.
                   
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                    You think it's a negative to bring in Surtain and you have no earthly idea whether or not the guy is a good coach. Do your research.
                     
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                    The list of former NFL players who became good coaches is very short.

                    There are many potential landmines associated with the interpersonal dynamics of having a position coach coaching his kid.
                     
                    #118 Swamp Donkey, Dec 8, 2017
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                      I never said it's definitely a negative. I said we shouldn't be doing it mostly for recruiting with the assumption he's a good coach. Learn to read and quit making up stuff that people said. Can you not discuss something honestly?
                       
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                      I agree that it's possible, but taking your example...Art Briles' 1st college gig was as a rb coach; the position most consider the easiest to coach. CB is right up there with QB and OL as the hardest. That's why a CB coach was almost always a DB themselves when they played, but a rb coach was often not a rb.

                      Again, Surtain might be a perfect fit as he definitely brings some huge positives. I'm just saying that we can't forget about coaching bc recruiting has become such a concern and a guy that's never coached in college would require a unique interview process.
                       

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