Phil Steel projects UF nation's most improved

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    https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/f...es-florida-improved-team-nation-heading-2018/

    With all the suspensions/injuries we had last year it makes sense we will see a lot of improvement.

    "To be honest with you, I’ve always picked Mississippi State sixth or seventh in the West, they always finish higher. I think Mullen, when he inherits 19 returning starters, will have Florida playing much better ball this year.”
     
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      Didn’t he say something similar last year, something like we would make, or had a good chance to make, the playoff? Or was that a different guy?
       
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      I don't know if that means Mullen is that good or Mac was that bad.
       
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        "While most assume Georgia is going to once again run away with the East this coming season, if the Gators can upset the Dawgs in Jacksonville, there’s a chance it’s Florida making the trip to Atlanta come early December."

        I like this part.
         
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        Yes, in the same article but he could not have known the absolute shyte show that Gator football would become.
         
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        Yes. I think that was before the 9 credit card suspensions. Not sure if that was before losing defensive leader Harris to injury.
         
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        We would have won the same number of games even if the CC suspensions did not happen.
         
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          So losing 9 players mostly nonstarters to a CC scheme is the reason we won only 4 games in an extremely favorable schedule.... Hard to take someone seriously with that statement. The CC members, do not make the receivers run better routes, the line to protect the quarterback, none were quarterbacks, or the mountain of injuries from schitty S&C.
           
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            Interesting hypothetical.

            That means having Callaway and Scarlett and having back ups at OT and LB would not have helped. Having Harris at safety would have helped. We had to play a slow walk on at LB and rookies at safety. Our only break away WR with speed was Cleveland who had hamstring issues.
             
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              Steele has one of the top records on projections. Credit card players lost:

              Scarlett was in shape and fast and very good at breaking tackles which was needed with our out of shape OL.

              Callaway has moral issues but is a proven play maker with speed.

              We lost a top OT back up and LB depth was a major issue.

              In addition losing senior defensive leader Harris also hurt.

              I think Steele is completely reasonable in that statement. We did lose some close games in which those players could have made a difference.
               
              • Jack o' Diamonds

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                But...But...We still had the same coach....
                 
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                  Scarlett might be our 3rd most complete back on the roster. And you assume he was fast and in shape, being we never saw him in game action.

                  He was a strong straight line runner with the ability to complete miss on pass blocking assignments.

                  Callaway, had the potential to be a play maker, also would disappear for games. He had the same problem most of the recievers had poor route running. Talent was never an issue, mental/attitude was.

                  Callaway broke 50 yards receiving in only 12 of the 26 games he played. Had a grand total of 8 tds (1 rushing) in 26 games played at Wide Receiver (He did have a passing TD on a trick play). So how is an inconsistent receiver going to fix what was fundamentally wrong with the offense.

                  He did have 3 return touchdowns (1 KO, 2 Punt) which is impressive over 26 games (55 punt, 6 KO returns)

                  Our top back OL was a Freshman... Seriously? I liked the kids size, but if our best backup linemen (OT) is a true freshman then we were already fcked. Also we lost two 3* true Freshman linebacker, with Houston already goin to be sidelined due to recovery from ACL injury in 2015.

                  That doesn't change the offensive and defensive personnel and schemes we had already seen for two previous years. The play calling would have been just as bad without the talent from the previous years to keep the games close.
                   
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                  • Zambo

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                    We've been setting ourselves up nicely for the Most Improved Award for years.
                     
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                      I believe this is the third year in a row he's picked us to do well. Hopefully third time really will be the charm.
                       
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                      I don't see how we don't lose at least 4 games and that is if we don't get upset this season. Heck KY and Tenn aren't guaranteed wins this season with Franks at QB. We only beat them because Franks was yanked in the KY game and because Franks got his huge play of the year at the end of the Tenn game.
                       
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                        I honestly see us having no chance to win in Atlanta, like the last 2 times we went. Think we need to take the state back first, before we can take the conference back. Don’t think this roster is ready to compete for the conference yet, but beating the Dawgs and Noles would be sweet.
                         
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                        No sh*t. Not hard to predict that one of the top 10 programs will show great improvement from being the biggest joke in college football.
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                        • GatorJB

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                          After thinking about it, it's not a stretch at all to predict this team to be "most improved." We only won 4 games last year. Going 8-4, which isn't anything special, still doubles the wins from last year.
                           
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                            I agree, the moron was coaching us regardless of which players were available
                             

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