Socialist-Backed Candidates Sweep PA State House Primaries

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  1. g8tr72

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    GMD must have a boner at the thought, seeing as how he's an avowed socialist and all. BTW, these candidates want to take away private business ownership from stock holders and make them employee owned co-ops. They also want to nationalize other privately owned companies.

    THIS is the new Democratic party.
     
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      I think I would be rejoicing more if, at this same moment, the Republican Party didn't look almost exactly like the Democrats from 20 years ago, especially in their fondness for spending.....
       
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        I'll say it again...

        Republicans are Democrats and Democrats are Socialists.



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          Kellogs and Venezuela
           
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          Well... you cant be a real vegan without being a marxist.
           
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          what are socialists...........
           
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          They are the ones who killed 100+ million people in the last century.
           
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            Check out the last election. Your party almost made one their presidential candidate.

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            They are the misguided people who believe the government should control all commerce, that taxes should be high, that individuals are subservient to the needs of the state, that speech and ideas need to be controlled, and that non-productive people should be allowed to improve their standard of living by taking from productive people. This will not end well.
             
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            What you say is true but STILL fence sitting democrats may turn to republicans in critical house races that may win a majority in the House. I guess that's a silver lining.
             
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            You will know them when they are putting the barrel of a gun to your head. Go back to sleep.
             
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              You asked.

              Do you not think Bernie Sanders is a socialist? And do you not think he wants to nationalize private industry? Because that's the type of folks your party wants running the country.

              Though I sincerely doubt you'll read it or reply in a manner that indicates you get it, here's a little background from a liberal about Bernie and what he wants. Again, THIS is where your party is headed and the election of these Bernie wannabes is more proof. Congrats..

              https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-2016-socialism-213667

              "The Vermont senator calls for increasing the top marginal tax rate on capital gains to 64.2 percent, which would not only be nearly triple the current rate and a peacetime record in the United States but also far higher than in any of the countries Sanders admires. In contrast, Denmark’s tax rate on capital gains—the highest rate in Europe—is 42 percent; France’s, 34.4 percent; Sweden’s, 30 percent; and Germany’s, 25 percent. Under Barack Obama, the U.S. rate has risen from 15 percent to 23.8 percent, a significant increase but well within both recent U.S. experience and current patterns abroad.

              Sanders’ 64.2 percent capital gains rate actually understates the full brunt of his program. He also advocates a significant financial transaction tax (FTT), which would tax losses as well as gains. (We currently have a tiny FTT, which pays for the Security and Exchange Commission, but Sanders is talking about one that will be big enough to finance free college tuition for all.) Add in state taxes on capital gains averaging about 4 percent nationally—and reaching 13 percent in California—and there is little doubt that Sanders’s capital gains tax is at counterproductive levels. With total marginal rates approaching 70 percent, people would hold on to appreciated assets rather than sell them. As a result, government revenue from the tax would fall. So would new investment, with serious repercussions for economic growth.

              Sanders gives no indication of even considering these difficulties. Whenever he talks about taxing “Wall Street,” he frames it as a repayment and a punishment for past financial misconduct. The business model of Wall Street, he says, is “fraud.” And so he calls for taxes at confiscatory levels—economic consequences for the country be damned.

              Sanders’ program reflects his life commitments. In some respects, his biography recapitulates the journey of socialism itself. When he was in his 20s, Sanders worked on a radical kibbutz in Israel—the communal socialist phase. In 1979, he produced a video about the longtime Socialist Party leader Eugene Debs; on the soundtrack, released by Folkways Records, you can hear Sanders performing Debs’ speeches calling for an end to capitalism. In 1980, Sanders served as a presidential elector for the Socialist Workers Party, which supported the nationalization of industry and expressed solidarity with revolutionary dictatorships, including Iran (this at the time Iran was holding American hostages).

              As he has pursued a political career in Vermont and as a member of Congress, Sanders has repositioned himself close to liberals, while denying he was a Democrat until the current campaign. But even now his worldview and the policies he is advocating are consistent with his old faith. He is still calling for a “revolution” to achieve socialism, blasting the “ruling class,” endorsing taxes at confiscatory levels and proposing a health plan that would effectively nationalize a sixth of the economy. Summing up his proposals, left-of-center economists estimate that it would increase the size of the federal government by 40 percent to 50 percent."
               
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              Good. It will further marginalize them from the middle 1/3.
               
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              In related news, Ben Shapiro opines.....



               

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